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Injured linemen Jackson, Herremans return to Eagles practice
POSTED: August 16, 2010
Injured linemen Jackson, Herremans return to Eagles practice

By Jonathan Tamari and Jeff McLane

Inquirer Staff Writers
BETHLEHEM, Pa. - Center Jamaal Jackson returned to Eagles practice for a short stint Sunday, less than eight months after suffering a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee.

Jackson and guard Todd Herremans, starters on the offensive line, came off the physically-unable-to-perform list and took part in their first practices of training camp at Lehigh University.

Herremans had been sidelined since late May with a balky left foot.

Each was limited and did not take part in any full-contact drills. Still, the fact that they were with the team at all added to the Eagles' hope that they could be ready to solidify the offensive line early in the season. Just when, though, is unclear, head coach Andy Reid said.

Jackson, the anchor of the line last season, still thinks about his last game.

It was two days after Christmas, the same day that an Inquirer story praised his durability. He was hurt early against the Denver Broncos . The Eagles won without him but got trounced by the Dallas Cowboys in the next two weeks, ending their season.

"You hate to go down with your team in prime position going to the playoffs," Jackson said. "I still think about that last snap that I took, and I still think about it every day. It's something that over time I'm going to have to forget. There's another season ahead."

The 30-year-old Jackson said he was optimistic that he could be ready for the Sept. 12 opener.

Reid said he wanted to monitor both players' progress.

Jackson, Reid said, is ahead of schedule, but no sure thing for Week 1.

"It's too soon," he said. "I've got to see how his leg reacted after this practice. Then it's going to be the same thing the next day, and we're just going to take it day by day and see how he does, and make sure you don't overwork it."

Herremans, 27, is more likely to be ready for the opener, the coach said.

"I think he will be, unless there's a setback," Reid said. "Again, I've got to see how his foot reacts to the work that he's given here."

Herremans, who missed five weeks last year with an injury in the same foot, said that if sitting out now "is the price to be able to play all season, I'll live with it."

Reid also had been optimistic about Herremans before training camp.

Herremans and Jackson had been working out on the sidelines at Lehigh while the rest of the team practiced.

On Sunday, Jackson participated in a small portion of the morning practice. Herremans was in for part of the morning and all of the light afternoon workout, which moved indoors to a basketball court because of rain.

"It felt different. I'm not going to lie," Jackson said. "It felt good just getting out there and just shaking the rust off a little bit. We'll add a little bit more as the days go on and see how it is."

Jackson wore braces on both knees. His elbow hit one brace when he snapped the ball, he said. He called the morning practice a step along the way to getting back into games.

Meanwhile, Nick Cole , one of the men who might stand in for Jackson, also returned to practice after missing time with a sore knee. He took part only in the afternoon session, which had no contact. He worked with the first team, bumping down Mike McGlynn, who had performed well in Cole's place.

Reid said Cole remained his top choice to replace Jackson, despite some struggles early in camp.

Cole declined to talk to reporters after practice, but McGlynn said he still hoped to start regardless of who returned to the field.

"Everybody wants to start. That's my goal," said McGlynn, a fourth-round draft pick in 2008. And if Jackson and Cole move ahead of him? "Will I be [ticked] off? Yeah, anybody would be. I want to be out there and start. I feel like it's time for me to get up and get going."

McGlynn delivered all of the snaps in the first team's one quarter of action in the Eagles' first preseason game Friday. After reviewing the game tape, Reid said McGlynn had played "very well."

"He needs to play more, and he's got plenty of room for improvement, but for his first time out, that was a pretty good day," Reid said.

The Fixer

The Jeagler wrote:

who is complaining? there were good things and bad things about the game. this is one of the bad things. and it is the main thing the offense needs to improve upon over last year.

you don't worry about stuff if until it becomes a problem in a game....huh? no you recognize that it has been this offense's number 1 problem for years and you try to improve upon it in the preseason and training camp. this is one of their main focuses up in lehigh.

surely you're not suggesting we watch the game and not be critical of anything...just because you came off with the same rosy glow that hugh douglass and don tolefeson appeared to have doesn't mean the game was perfect.

I was at a bar friday night. mostly paying attention to the phillies game. you know, because it mattered. I'm not putting a 'rosy glow' on anything. Preseason games don't mean shit. Most important thing about preseason is avoiding injuries

I don't think you can compare this team to last year's team. new QB means new identity.

the offense is gonna be fine. If celek doesn't drop the ball in the end zone we wouldn't be having this stupid ass discussion

The Juggler

The Fixer wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

who is complaining? there were good things and bad things about the game. this is one of the bad things. and it is the main thing the offense needs to improve upon over last year.

you don't worry about stuff if until it becomes a problem in a game....huh? no you recognize that it has been this offense's number 1 problem for years and you try to improve upon it in the preseason and training camp. this is one of their main focuses up in lehigh.

surely you're not suggesting we watch the game and not be critical of anything...just because you came off with the same rosy glow that hugh douglass and don tolefeson appeared to have doesn't mean the game was perfect.

I was at a bar friday night. mostly paying attention to the phillies game. you know, because it mattered. I'm not putting a 'rosy glow' on anything. Preseason games don't mean shit. Most important thing about preseason is avoiding injuries

I don't think you can compare this team to last year's team. new QB means new identity.

the offense is gonna be fine. If celek doesn't drop the ball in the end zone we wouldn't be having this stupid ass discussion

if you didn't really watch the game...how are you possibly trying to argue with me about what happened in the game? again, there are things i liked, some things i didn't. this is one of them. i don't know what else to tell you dude.

take your own advice and don't pay attention for another few weeks if you don't want some analysis of how the team looks right now.

The Fixer

The Jeagler wrote:

if you didn't really watch the game...how are you possibly trying to argue with me about what happened in the game? again, there are things i liked, some things i didn't. this is one of them. i don't know what else to tell you dude.

take your own advice and don't pay attention for another few weeks if you don't want some analysis of how the team looks right now.

I really didn't watch much on friday night. I saw some of the replay on NFL network.

I guess we disagree about the preseason. you obviously put a lot more worth into these performances than I do. I don't think they mean anything. at all

The Juggler

The Fixer wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

if you didn't really watch the game...how are you possibly trying to argue with me about what happened in the game? again, there are things i liked, some things i didn't. this is one of them. i don't know what else to tell you dude.

take your own advice and don't pay attention for another few weeks if you don't want some analysis of how the team looks right now.

I really didn't watch much on friday night. I saw some of the replay on NFL network.

I guess we disagree about the preseason. you obviously put a lot more worth into these performances than I do. I don't think they mean anything. at all

you just don't get it. we'll wake you up in a few weeks.

The Fixer

The Jeagler wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

if you didn't really watch the game...how are you possibly trying to argue with me about what happened in the game? again, there are things i liked, some things i didn't. this is one of them. i don't know what else to tell you dude.

take your own advice and don't pay attention for another few weeks if you don't want some analysis of how the team looks right now.

I really didn't watch much on friday night. I saw some of the replay on NFL network.

I guess we disagree about the preseason. you obviously put a lot more worth into these performances than I do. I don't think they mean anything. at all

you just don't get it. we'll wake you up in a few weeks.

get what? seriously

there is no correlation at all whatsoever with preseason and regular season success/failure. none

jamminpearls

I'm not as worried about the redzone as the jeags is but its deff something to keep an eye on. If Celek catches that ball then this probably isn't an issue. But I heard well kolb played well against slop last year so its tough to judge him. Now its well its the preseaon it dosen't count all he's done is look good. My 10-6 perdiction imo is very possible cause of how Kolb runs this offense. He's gonna hit these guys in stride all year,djacks YAC is gonna be crazy this year. If the def plays a little better the avg this could be a season that shocks a lot of people.

The Juggler

jamminpearls wrote:

I'm not as worried about the redzone as the jeags is but its deff something to keep an eye on. If Celek catches that ball then this probably isn't an issue. But I heard well kolb played well against slop last year so its tough to judge him. Now its well its the preseaon it dosen't count all he's done is look good. My 10-6 perdiction imo is very possible cause of how Kolb runs this offense. He's gonna hit these guys in stride all year,djacks YAC is gonna be crazy this year. If the def plays a little better the avg this could be a season that shocks a lot of people.

it's not that i'm worried about it. i listed about 7 things that i was happy about with the game and a couple things i didn't like. go look at my posts. fixer's just a huge reid fan and will harp on anything i say negatively about the team.

they can hit 10-6 if things go right. kolb looked good. i just don't think he looked as good as the entire city is making it out today. celek should have caught that ball. but two of his throws could easily have been picks.

good start though.

more importantly, i am getting a little more confident in our defense...

jamminpearls

I like reid far from love him,I'd trade reid and a 3rd pick in a second for rex ryan. That's a coach that as a player you love to go to battle for. Reids stubborness Has hurt us alot in the past and it have driven me crazy as well. But I also believe that he's the best coach we've probably ever had. Kinda the Mcnabb thing all over to me,I wanted 5 gone and I would have ok with Reid gone as well. I'm ok with him here to so this season will be huge for him as well.

The Fixer

ok, a few quick points

1 - the performance from one preseason game is so wildly overblown it is comical

2 - reid is by far the best coach the eagles have ever had

3 - baldinger predicted 10 wins for the eagles, just like jammin did

I really don't feel like arguing about this stuff anymore. the preseason performances are meaningless. didn't the lions go undefeated in the preseason a couple of years ago when they ended up 0-16?

The Juggler

The Fixer wrote:

ok, a few quick points

1 - the performance from one preseason game is so wildly overblown it is comical

2 - reid is by far the best coach the eagles have ever had

3 - baldinger predicted 10 wins for the eagles, just like jammin did

I really don't feel like arguing about this stuff anymore. the preseason performances are meaningless. didn't the lions go undefeated in the preseason a couple of years ago when they ended up 0-16?

1-its football dude. people have been salivating for any kind of game action since last winter. this happens every year. you don't have to read or reply to the posts.

2- it is funny how in the phils thread whenever someone says ryan howard is the best firstbaseman in team history you are so quick to point out that it means nothing since the team has been so bad for so long....yet in this thread of a team who has never won a super bowl or any championship of any kind in 50 years you love to point out, on daily basis, that andy reid is the best coach we've ever had. the inconsistency there is incredulous.

3- baldinger is the man. 10 wins is certainly attainable for this team if all the pieces fall into place.

best news of the day: herremans and jackson returning to practice.

GO BIRDS.

Jearlpam0925

But you all know Baldinger hangs from Reid's tip, right? I'll believe 10 wins when I see it.

The Juggler

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

But you all know Baldinger hangs from Reid's tip, right? I'll believe 10 wins when I see it.

you think? i think he's pretty fair. i've heard him rip the eagles plenty of times. the man knows his football.

The Fixer

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

But you all know Baldinger hangs from Reid's tip, right? I'll believe 10 wins when I see it.

I'm with you. I think 10 wins is a stretch. especially with the red zone offense struggling the way it has

jeags, your 2nd point above doesn't really make sense. reid is the eagles best coach and howard is the phils best 1B of all time. neither has any competition. not sure what your point it

The Fixer

The Jeagler wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

But you all know Baldinger hangs from Reid's tip, right? I'll believe 10 wins when I see it.

you think? i think he's pretty fair. i've heard him rip the eagles plenty of times. the man knows his football.

I don't think it was a coincidence that he ripped mcnabb right after he got traded. why not do that while he was here? it's not like that opinion was formed after the trade was made...he seemed to be holding that rant in for years.

jeags, did you get those tix in the mail?

Jearlpam0925

The Jeagler wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

But you all know Baldinger hangs from Reid's tip, right? I'll believe 10 wins when I see it.

you think? i think he's pretty fair. i've heard him rip the eagles plenty of times. the man knows his football.

Let's put it this way, I've heard him gush enough over this team and Reid to make this statement.(EDIT: Fixer, good point on ripping McNabb. That's what I'm saying - gushes over Reid's admin.) My point is I'm going into this season with lowered expectations, because to automatically think anything over 8 wins is a given is a pipe dream. Too many what-if's. Set the bar low and they'll only be bound to succeed as I see it.

The Juggler

The Fixer wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

But you all know Baldinger hangs from Reid's tip, right? I'll believe 10 wins when I see it.

I'm with you. I think 10 wins is a stretch. especially with the red zone offense struggling the way it has

jeags, your 2nd point above doesn't really make sense. reid is the eagles best coach and howard is the phils best 1B of all time. neither has any competition. not sure what your point it

sure it does.

in one thread you're quick to point no competition fact out...in the other, you seem like you're ready to induct the guy into the hall of fame despite winning nothing. it's a touch hypocrititcal is all.

The Juggler

The Fixer wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

But you all know Baldinger hangs from Reid's tip, right? I'll believe 10 wins when I see it.

you think? i think he's pretty fair. i've heard him rip the eagles plenty of times. the man knows his football.

I don't think it was a coincidence that he ripped mcnabb right after he got traded. why not do that while he was here? it's not like that opinion was formed after the trade was made...he seemed to be holding that rant in for years.

jeags, did you get those tix in the mail?

he ripped on donovan all last season dude.

yeah i got them. you get the check?

The Fixer

The Jeagler wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

But you all know Baldinger hangs from Reid's tip, right? I'll believe 10 wins when I see it.

I'm with you. I think 10 wins is a stretch. especially with the red zone offense struggling the way it has

jeags, your 2nd point above doesn't really make sense. reid is the eagles best coach and howard is the phils best 1B of all time. neither has any competition. not sure what your point it

sure it does.

in one thread you're quick to point no competition fact out...in the other, you seem like you're ready to induct the guy into the hall of fame despite winning nothing. it's a touch hypocrititcal is all.

I just said neither has any competition. howard is overrated and reid is underappreciated. it all goes back to the philly fans being, well, not that bright

The Juggler

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

But you all know Baldinger hangs from Reid's tip, right? I'll believe 10 wins when I see it.

you think? i think he's pretty fair. i've heard him rip the eagles plenty of times. the man knows his football.

Let's put it this way, I've heard him gush enough over this team and Reid to make this statement.(EDIT: Fixer, good point on ripping McNabb. That's what I'm saying - gushes over Reid's admin.) My point is I'm going into this season with lowered expectations, because to automatically think anything over 8 wins is a given is a pipe dream. Too many what-if's. Set the bar low and they'll only be bound to succeed as I see it.

that's why i keep saying i would not be shocked at 7 wins or 10. that's a big spread...but with all the what ifs and how young we are, it's what makes this season so intriguing. i got them at 9 right now. early part of the schedule seems to be the easiest.