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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,030
    Jeags do you really want him for that much money? He has declined the last 5 years aside from a bounce back year this year
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,550
    I just want Werth - as Harry would put it - OUUUUUUUTTTTTAAAAA HEEERRRRRE.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,030
    I have said it a number of times and I will say it again. One of you fuckers should get Amaro on the phone and tell him to figure out a deal for one of the rays pitchers. Very good pitchers, very young and very cheap. They want werth, phillies want a front line starter. Who cares about myers, these guys are legit pitchers who will probably be good for a long time and will allow the phillies to make other moves. Don't always need the big name. The end. Just tell you gm not to get ass raped
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited July 2010
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Jeags do you really want him for that much money? He has declined the last 5 years aside from a bounce back year this year

    last 5 years...come on. you make it seem like he went from a cy young winner to joe blanton.

    his era was right around 3.00 his first 5 or 6 years...i think he had back problems the last couple years or something and his era jumped all the way up to 4.00 last year but he's back around 3.00 now. his only real "down" year was last year--but i think the on going back issue played a role in that. and it appears to be fine now.

    for 2 years while we have our core still around, yeah, i would pull the trigger on that. are you overpaying? yeah a little...but i think you're still going to get solid stuff for a couple years. that top 3 puts us right back in the ws mix assuming our lineup remembers how to play baseball again.
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Jeagler wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    For what its worth, I am hearing Seth Everett said its basically dead. Astros want Dom Brown to pay any salary and he also said the D'Backs interim GM is not trading Haren unless the package is absolutely insane.

    Calling Ben Sheets.

    Honestly, if it's not Oswalt or Haren, then I don't care. What I do care about is that they trade Werth - immediately.

    if not oswalt or haren---myers. BANG. DONE.

    but everyone saying this is dead are the same people saying cliff lee to the yanks was a done deal. ya never know. stay tuned.

    I would be willing to bet that something happens before game time on saturday. Might not be oswalt, but from the sounds of it, something is gonna go down
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,550
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Honestly, if it's not Oswalt or Haren, then I don't care. What I do care about is that they trade Werth - immediately.

    if not oswalt or haren---myers. BANG. DONE.

    but everyone saying this is dead are the same people saying cliff lee to the yanks was a done deal. ya never know. stay tuned.

    I would be willing to bet that something happens before game time on saturday. Might not be oswalt, but from the sounds of it, something is gonna go down

    Welp. I'm heading for Maryland. Maybe when I get back I'll be plum surprised.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,030
    All about the big name jeags, too much money in my book, phillies will be fucked in 2012, and like you said he has an injury history. Why are you against younger pitchers that are much less expensive and will give you very similar performance? A big name does not win you shit, look at the yanks, and yes he has been declining for 5 years, injuries or not. This year he bounced back but who knows what thy means. He will not be worth what he is getting paid.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    All about the big name jeags, too much money in my book, phillies will be fucked in 2012, and like you said he has an injury history. Why are you against younger pitchers that are much less expensive and will give you very similar performance? A big name does not win you shit, look at the yanks, and yes he has been declining for 5 years, injuries or not. This year he bounced back but who knows what thy means. He will not be worth what he is getting paid.

    I kicked you that PM...been stuck in my outbox for 2 hours now. not sure what's up. If you want, PM me your email and I can send it that way. up to you

    just realized wainwright pitches tomorrow. phils better fucking win tonight
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,030
    Thanks man. I saw it was there but on my phone right now and don't think I can get it on my phone because of the stupid new format of the forum or whatever. Should be at a computer in a little while. Appreciate it though. Someone I work with tried telling me they would rather have oswalt than him. His baseball opinion is dead to me.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    All about the big name jeags, too much money in my book, phillies will be fucked in 2012, and like you said he has an injury history. Why are you against younger pitchers that are much less expensive and will give you very similar performance? A big name does not win you shit, look at the yanks, and yes he has been declining for 5 years, injuries or not. This year he bounced back but who knows what thy means. He will not be worth what he is getting paid.

    so i am against younger pitchers that are much less expensive and will give a similar performance? well that is news to me. :lol:


    despite the back stuff, he still managed to start around 30 games or so the last couple years and is healthy now with an era around 3.00. yes i'd do this deal.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    if not oswalt or haren---myers. BANG. DONE.

    but everyone saying this is dead are the same people saying cliff lee to the yanks was a done deal. ya never know. stay tuned.

    I would be willing to bet that something happens before game time on saturday. Might not be oswalt, but from the sounds of it, something is gonna go down

    Welp. I'm heading for Maryland. Maybe when I get back I'll be plum surprised.

    maryland loves their flag. it is E V E R Y W H E R E.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,030
    You would too if your flag was that awesome. I don't even know why the pa flag looks like.

    Idk, just seems like you are all for oswalt but wouldn't be for some of the younger guys.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    You would too if your flag was that awesome. I don't even know why the pa flag looks like.

    Idk, just seems like you are all for oswalt but wouldn't be for some of the younger guys.

    i don't think ive even addressed any of the younger guys...at all in here actually.

    the pa flag is lame. i think its dark blue with a crest.

    md's is cool....but do you really need to see every 5 miles on i95? and on the ravens jerseys? and at the rest stops? and all around camden yards?
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    You would too if your flag was that awesome. I don't even know why the pa flag looks like.

    Idk, just seems like you are all for oswalt but wouldn't be for some of the younger guys.

    pennsylvania_flag.jpg
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,030
    The ny flag is pretty cool. It's just navy with the nys crest bur I like it.

    I figured since I mentioned them a few times and you were talking about oswalt.

    Yeah, the ravens jerseys are bad, and they are just plain bad jerseys overall but eagles jerseys are on every corner on fishtown and port Richmond too.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,030
    That is pretty similar to ny
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,030
    What's the deal solat? We talked about pacquiao- maywheather a while back, right? So pacman will take the tests now and Floyd is being a bitch although it sounds like it's because of his uncles case.
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    What's the deal solat? We talked about pacquiao- maywheather a while back, right? So pacman will take the tests now and Floyd is being a bitch although it sounds like it's because of his uncles case.

    Yep, that was me. Basically Pacman will do the requirements that Mayweather made last year up until 14 days before the fight for random blood testing, but now Mayweather doesn't seem to be in any rush to have the fight. Originally Pacman had said 24 days.

    So I guess the ball is in Mayweather's court.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
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    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,030
    Yeah, that is pretty much what i read. This fight really has to happen. Would definitely be the biggest fight since the Holyfield-tyson fights. Becoming such a disappointment.

    Pretty cool stuff with him getting sworn into congress recently. Seems like a good guy, for some reason I didn't like him for a while. Probably all the movies and music I read he was making. Either way, these two have to fight. They will make so much money.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Jeagler wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:

    Welp. I'm heading for Maryland. Maybe when I get back I'll be plum surprised.

    maryland loves their flag. it is E V E R Y W H E R E.

    dude, that is hilarious. I went to college down there and I say the same thing. That state is corny as hell. And the drivers down there make the shitty PA drivers look good. Also, all the dudes wear those burkenstock (sp?) sandals and tuck their t-shirts in the front.

    needless to say, I couldn't wait to get the hell out of maryland when I graduated.

    the inner harbor is cool, but it gets old after a week.
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