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  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Please no Sheets,Shields,Lilly. I'd be happy with Oswalt,Westbrook,Myers, Haren and i'm not even sure if he's on the block but Zach Duke.
    would you like zack greinke too :roll: :lol::lol: . hes if you want either oswalt, haren or greinke or duke your gonna have to give up brown. you aren't gonna get those guys on cheap. you can lilly or westbrook on the cheap very easily.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    metsfan wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Please no Sheets,Shields,Lilly. I'd be happy with Oswalt,Westbrook,Myers, Haren and i'm not even sure if he's on the block but Zach Duke.
    would you like zack greinke too :roll: :lol::lol: . hes if you want either oswalt, haren or greinke or duke your gonna have to give up brown. you aren't gonna get those guys on cheap. you can lilly or westbrook on the cheap very easily.

    So Zach fucking Duke is worth the #1 prospect in baseball........oooooookay. If I hear Zach Duke's name brought up again in a positive light I'm revoking your baseball card and going to bleed from my eyes.
  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,435
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Please no Sheets,Shields,Lilly. I'd be happy with Oswalt,Westbrook,Myers, Haren and i'm not even sure if he's on the block but Zach Duke.
    would you like zack greinke too :roll: :lol::lol: . hes if you want either oswalt, haren or greinke or duke your gonna have to give up brown. you aren't gonna get those guys on cheap. you can lilly or westbrook on the cheap very easily.

    So Zach fucking Duke is worth the #1 prospect in baseball........oooooookay. If I hear Zach Duke's name brought up again in a positive light I'm revoking your baseball card and going to bleed from my eyes.

    well then you'll be pleased to know that he has never allowed a home run in 19 1/3 career innings in Philadelphia....
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    well then you'll be pleased to know that he has never allowed a home run in 19 1/3 career innings in Philadelphia....
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    SWEET! Then make it happen! Brown, Werth, Halladay, and Utley. Straight up. Make it happen.
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Please no Sheets,Shields,Lilly. I'd be happy with Oswalt,Westbrook,Myers, Haren and i'm not even sure if he's on the block but Zach Duke.
    would you like zack greinke too :roll: :lol::lol: . if you want either oswalt, haren or greinke or duke your gonna have to give up brown. you aren't gonna get those guys on cheap. you can lilly or westbrook on the cheap very easily.

    So Zach fucking Duke is worth the #1 prospect in baseball........oooooookay. If I hear Zach Duke's name brought up again in a positive light I'm revoking your baseball card and going to bleed from my eyes.
    hey don't blame me, blame jamminpearls for the zach duke mentioned. he's the same guy that want's soria or greinkie :lol::lol: .

    i didn't say he's worth the #1 prospect in baseball. want and worth are 2 totally different things. next time try reading a post before making quick judgements.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    metsfan wrote:
    would you like zack greinke too :roll: :lol::lol: . hes if you want either oswalt, haren or greinke or duke your gonna have to give up brown. you aren't gonna get those guys on cheap. you can lilly or westbrook on the cheap very easily.

    Maybe someone needs to see who they grouped Duke in with; remember, jokes aren't funny when they only make sense to you.
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    edited July 2010
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    would you like zack greinke too :roll: :lol::lol: . hes if you want either oswalt, haren or greinke or duke your gonna have to give up brown. you aren't gonna get those guys on cheap. you can lilly or westbrook on the cheap very easily.

    Maybe someone needs to see who they grouped Duke in with; remember, jokes aren't funny when they only make sense to you.
    zach duke on a good team would be much better then 3-8. seriously go put him on sox or rays and reds and i bet you he'd have a 8-3 record. i too would be 3-8 if i played infront of no one and still got paid nice money. i lumped duke into that group cause to me he's a #1 starter or 1a. anyone would love to have him on their team.

    i'm surprised your buddies cliffy or the fixer haven't come to your defense :roll: :lol::lol:
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    edited July 2010
    metsfan wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    would you like zack greinke too :roll: :lol::lol: . hes if you want either oswalt, haren or greinke or duke your gonna have to give up brown. you aren't gonna get those guys on cheap. you can lilly or westbrook on the cheap very easily.

    Maybe someone needs to see who they grouped Duke in with; remember, jokes aren't funny when they only make sense to you.
    zach duke on a good team would be much better then 3-8. seriously go put him on sox or rays and reds and i bet you he'd have a 8-3 record. i too would be 3-8 if i played infront of no one and still got paid nice money.

    I can't believe I'm having a conversation about Zack Duke. Go look at the dude's stats outside of his record. There's no defense for sucking at pitching. And the last time I checked, David Ortiz can't hit homeruns while his sucky ass pitcher sucks it up on the mound sucking more than anyone has sucked in the realm of suck.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... za01.shtml
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    metsfan wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    would you like zack greinke too :roll: :lol::lol: . hes if you want either oswalt, haren or greinke or duke your gonna have to give up brown. you aren't gonna get those guys on cheap. you can lilly or westbrook on the cheap very easily.

    Maybe someone needs to see who they grouped Duke in with; remember, jokes aren't funny when they only make sense to you.
    zach duke on a good team would be much better then 3-8. seriously go put him on sox or rays and reds and i bet you he'd have a 8-3 record. i too would be 3-8 if i played infront of no one and still got paid nice money.

    um, no he wouldn't. you have to be able to get guys out in order to earn wins. duke would be good if he could get guys out...but he can't.

    zach duke is horrible. now let's move on. we've wasted way too much time on him already. let's talk about oliver perez instead. what's he up to these days (besides stealing money)?
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Number 1 starters dot have a whip of 1.7. That's all on him.
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:

    I can't believe I'm having a conversation about Zack Duke. Go look at the dude's stats outside of his record. There's no defense for sucking at pitching. And the last time I checked, David Ortiz can't hit homeruns while his sucky ass pitcher sucks it up on mound sucking more than anyone has sucked in the realm of suck.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... za01.shtml
    look at the team he's playing on. its pure baseball hell.
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  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    I wouldn't give up D.Brown for anyone he's gonna be a stud. Secondly if they can swing a Werth and prospects 3 team trade and land Oswalt,i'd be very happy. I don't care what any of the 3 amigos say Zach Duke is a talented 27yr old pitcher. Has he pitched bad yeah but when u play for a shit team how can your moral be good. The pirates get there ass kicked year in and year out would u wanna be there? Put him on a winning team and i'd bet anyone he'd be a solid #3 pitcher especially on this team.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    metsfan wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:

    I can't believe I'm having a conversation about Zack Duke. Go look at the dude's stats outside of his record. There's no defense for sucking at pitching. And the last time I checked, David Ortiz can't hit homeruns while his sucky ass pitcher sucks it up on mound sucking more than anyone has sucked in the realm of suck.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... za01.shtml
    look at the team he's playing on. its pure baseball hell.

    And that has nothing to do with every walk and hit given up per inning, which borders near two an inning mind you. There's good pitchers on bad teams out there. And Duke is not one of them. Know why? Those pitchers still have good stats outside of wins and losses.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    jamminpearls wrote:
    I wouldn't give up D.Brown for anyone he's gonna be a stud. Secondly if they can swing a Werth and prospects 3 team trade and land Oswalt,i'd be very happy. I don't care what any of the 3 amigos say Zach Duke is a talented 27yr old pitcher. Has he pitched bad yeah but when u play for a shit team how can your moral be good. The pirates get there ass kicked year in and year out would u wanna be there? Put him on a winning team and i'd bet anyone he'd be a solid #3 pitcher especially on this team.

    ok, let's break this down. give me one reason that you think zach duke is good.

    zack greinke is pretty good and he's on a team that's just as bad as the pirates. felix hernandez is good and the mariners suck. strasburg is good and the nats aren't good.

    so the argument that someone can't have success on a bad team is pretty fucking weak. schilling on the phils back in the day is another one.
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:

    I can't believe I'm having a conversation about Zack Duke. Go look at the dude's stats outside of his record. There's no defense for sucking at pitching. And the last time I checked, David Ortiz can't hit homeruns while his sucky ass pitcher sucks it up on mound sucking more than anyone has sucked in the realm of suck.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... za01.shtml
    look at the team he's playing on. its pure baseball hell.

    And that has nothing to do with every walk and hit given up per inning, which borders near two an inning mind you. There's good pitchers on bad teams out there. And Duke is not one of them. Know why? Those pitchers still have good stats outside of wins and losses.
    dude what motivation does he have pitching in baseball hell and still collecting a fat check. he could go 4-18 with a 4.50 era and people in baseball still won't care. no the pirates just suck period unlike other teams. i can't believe i'm even defending this wasted talent.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    metsfan wrote:
    dude what motivation does he have pitching in baseball hell and still collecting a fat check. he could go 4-18 with a 4.50 era and people in baseball still won't care. no the pirates just suck period unlike other teams. i can't believe i'm even defending this wasted talent.

    I can't believe you are either. Like said above, what does Grienke, Oswalt, Haren, Strasburg have to play for?
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Sounds like it is oswalt and werth will be involved. I am brilliant... Maybe
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    dude what motivation does he have pitching in baseball hell and still collecting a fat check. he could go 4-18 with a 4.50 era and people in baseball still won't care. no the pirates just suck period unlike other teams. i can't believe i'm even defending this wasted talent.

    I can't believe you are either. Like said above, what does Grienke, Oswalt, Haren, Strasburg have to play for?
    ok the fact you lumped in stratsburg is as silly as me in lumping duke into the mix. what has stratsburg done in the majors. has he won a cy young yet or been anywhere good.
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,529
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Sounds like it is oswalt and werth will be involved. I am brilliant... Maybe

    And where are you getting your info from, Jambi?
  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    The Fixer wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    I wouldn't give up D.Brown for anyone he's gonna be a stud. Secondly if they can swing a Werth and prospects 3 team trade and land Oswalt,i'd be very happy. I don't care what any of the 3 amigos say Zach Duke is a talented 27yr old pitcher. Has he pitched bad yeah but when u play for a shit team how can your moral be good. The pirates get there ass kicked year in and year out would u wanna be there? Put him on a winning team and i'd bet anyone he'd be a solid #3 pitcher especially on this team.

    ok, let's break this down. give me one reason that you think zach duke is good.

    zack greinke is pretty good and he's on a team that's just as bad as the pirates. felix hernandez is good and the mariners suck. strasburg is good and the nats aren't good.

    so the argument that someone can't have success on a bad team is pretty fucking weak. schilling on the phils back in the day is another one.

    I never put him in the category of any of them i said a solid #3 can u read??? He's still young enough and has had good to decent years in the past and he would come cheap enought to see what the kid can do when he's pitching with confidence. 11-16 with a 4.06 era and 213innings is a decent year for a kid who only knows what losing is. I forgot that if thefixer,cliffy and pam disagrees its wrong i didn't get the memo that you 3 are always right. Maybe next time PJ's in town u can hand deliever it to me,i'd love to meet and share a beer with such baseball royalty.
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