ILYA KOVALCHUCK STILL A DEVIL!!!!!

Rygar · July 2010

neilybabes86 wrote:

im sorry i thought you were a flyers fan ...but after reading the whole thread the only thing i know isthat u live in toronto and hate the leafs and pens

He is a Flyers fan.

neilybabes86 · July 2010

Rygar wrote:

neilybabes86 wrote:

im sorry i thought you were a flyers fan ...but after reading the whole thread the only thing i know isthat u live in toronto and hate the leafs and pens

He is a Flyers fan.

thats what i thought

ok then fife you were making fun of the rangers so i just said the flyers haven't won a cup in a real long time

excuse me i had the morning from hell and my head is real confused this morning

and mr. rygar wtf is your habs thread

Rygar · July 2010

neilybabes86 wrote:

Rygar wrote:

neilybabes86 wrote:

im sorry i thought you were a flyers fan ...but after reading the whole thread the only thing i know isthat u live in toronto and hate the leafs and pens

He is a Flyers fan.

thats what i thought

ok then fife you were making fun of the rangers so i just said the flyers haven't won a cup in a real long time

excuse me i had the morning from hell and my head is real confused this morning

and mr. rygar wtf is your habs thread

Not much news in Habland!

81 · July 2010

FrankieG wrote:

I am happy that we got him, but I hate the 17 year idea.

Too much time for injury, and he isnt gonna be motivated to perform if he knows he is getting 6 mill a year no matter how good/bad he does.

I have been a Devil fan since i was a kid, and i still am... but i dont agree with the 17 year part...

Still going to go to 5+ games though cause i want to see him

it's front loaded. i think 8.5 this year, and then creeps up to 11.5 before dropping off on the back end. last 5 years are 550K per season. thats the cash flow perspective, cap hit perspective, it's $6M per year. there are going to be so many teams in cap hell in 10 years becasue of these deals.

blackredyellow · July 2010

petrocs wrote:

Still trying to figure this one out...so he turned down a 12 yr $101 million dollar deal with Atlanta to accept a 17 yr $102 million dollar deal with NJ? Now I may not know anything about math (I do..a lot) so he accepted MORE yrs (5) for an extra $1 million? Wow..I'd fire his agent this moment..stupid deal

Yes, it's better to get the money sooner than later, but I doubt he is going to play more than 12 years anyway, so total money is the same.

And he is in a better hockey market and on a team with a better chance to win... Not a terrible decision by any means.

fife · July 2010

neilybabes86 wrote:

fife wrote:

[hey! don't give the devil fans any ideas!

don't worry none of us will still be alive when the rangers or the Devils win another cup.

yea cause the flyers have won alot recently :roll:[/quote]

neily babe where did this come from?[/quote]

im sorry i thought you were a flyers fan ...but after reading the whole thread the only thing i know isthat u live in toronto and hate the leafs and pens

[/quote]

no problems, i am a Flyers fan but i watch almost every team that i can.

Drowned Out · July 2010

brother123 wrote:

smarchee wrote:

don't like this guy

don't like the Devils

both will increase with this signing

hope it doesnt work out

So why, tell me, post in a thread about the Devils and Ilya??

This is THE marquee free agent signing of the off-season, and he signed a huge, unconventional contract...the whole hockey world has an opinion on this - I dont think its really trolling for Devil-haters to comment.
.I would not put my cup dreams on the shoulders of this guy, no way. Alexi Yashin anyone? have fun getting rid of him with this contract, if/when he does tank.

JasonE · July 2010

rival. wrote:

do devil fans really think they have earned the right to talk shit? Let me guess your response is "at least we get there man!"

Yes, I do at least, and my response goes something like this:

Longest winless streak in the Rangers history: 23 straight games between 1997 and 2001 to, you guessed it, the New Jersey Devils (3rd longest team vs. team streak in NHL history)

34 fired coaches in the Ranger's history, more than any other sports franchise

NHL record for MOST 1st round series losses with 24. Also hold record for MOST times being SWEPT in a playoff series with 11

Failed to pass the 1st round of the playoffs between 1951-1970, and just once in a 30 year span (1941-1970). Both NHL records!

Missed the playoffs more times than any other team in NHL history with 31 years, including a drought of 18 times out of only 23 years

NHL record for LONGEST consecutive Stanley Cup drought with 54 years (1940-1994) and have only 1 cup in the last 70 years... I guess your response will be, "at least we've been around that long, man"

Indifference71 · July 2010

These NHL contracts are getting ridiculous. 17 years????

fife · July 2010

Indifference71 wrote:

These NHL contracts are getting ridiculous. 17 years????

its brilliant if you think about it. people used to complain that players don't stay with one team anymore but if this trend continues than they will.

Black Diamond · July 2010

How much of a loser am I for watching this Press Conference :?

blackredyellow · July 2010

fife wrote:

Indifference71 wrote:

These NHL contracts are getting ridiculous. 17 years????

its brilliant if you think about it. people used to complain that players don't stay with one team anymore but if this trend continues than they will.

I don't mind them from a league issue, but I'm not sure that I want my team doing it for hardly any players. A lot of players have that internal drive that you can't stop, but I can't help but think that It's gotta kill the motivation on some players. Imagine your boss saying that he was going to pay you for the next 17 years... how hard would you really work?

That being said, if my Pens could lock up Crosby for 17 years, I'd hope they'd do it in a heart-beat.

neilybabes86 · July 2010

JasonE wrote:

rival. wrote:

do devil fans really think they have earned the right to talk shit? Let me guess your response is "at least we get there man!"

Yes, I do at least, and my response goes something like this:

Longest winless streak in the Rangers history: 23 straight games between 1997 and 2001 to, you guessed it, the New Jersey Devils (3rd longest team vs. team streak in NHL history)

34 fired coaches in the Ranger's history, more than any other sports franchise

NHL record for MOST 1st round series losses with 24. Also hold record for MOST times being SWEPT in a playoff series with 11

Failed to pass the 1st round of the playoffs between 1951-1970, and just once in a 30 year span (1941-1970). Both NHL records!

Missed the playoffs more times than any other team in NHL history with 31 years, including a drought of 18 times out of only 23 years

NHL record for LONGEST consecutive Stanley Cup drought with 54 years (1940-1994) and have only 1 cup in the last 70 years... I guess your response will be, "at least we've been around that long, man"

its sad you know this much about my team

all i know about the devils is fathead marty is a diver and gretzky callef them mickey mouse

xavier mcdaniel · July 2010

Indifference71 wrote:

These NHL contracts are getting ridiculous. 17 years????

can you say lockout when the CBA runs out in a few years? ever since the lockout when they claimed they didn't have money, we've seen deals of 13, 15 and 17 years given to players. what's next a lifetime contract?

blackredyellow · July 2010

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

Indifference71 wrote:

These NHL contracts are getting ridiculous. 17 years????

can you say lockout when the CBA runs out in a few years? ever since the lockout when they claimed they didn't have money, we've seen deals of 13, 15 and 17 years given to players. what's next a lifetime contract?

What does the length of term have to do with how much money the league has? The big issue was the growing revenue vs salary structure of the league... that has been fixed with the cap....

rival. · July 2010

JasonE wrote:

rival. wrote:

do devil fans really think they have earned the right to talk shit? Let me guess your response is "at least we get there man!"

Yes, I do at least, and my response goes something like this:

Longest winless streak in the Rangers history: 23 straight games between 1997 and 2001 to, you guessed it, the New Jersey Devils (3rd longest team vs. team streak in NHL history)

34 fired coaches in the Ranger's history, more than any other sports franchise

NHL record for MOST 1st round series losses with 24. Also hold record for MOST times being SWEPT in a playoff series with 11

Failed to pass the 1st round of the playoffs between 1951-1970, and just once in a 30 year span (1941-1970). Both NHL records!

Missed the playoffs more times than any other team in NHL history with 31 years, including a drought of 18 times out of only 23 years

NHL record for LONGEST consecutive Stanley Cup drought with 54 years (1940-1994) and have only 1 cup in the last 70 years... I guess your response will be, "at least we've been around that long, man"

you are covering the entire history of the rangers which is a little ridiculous. do i care the rangers didn't pass the 1st round of the playoffs between 1951 - 1970? i wasn't alive. wasn't even close to alive. it's a little unfair to compare certain stats with an original six, to a team that introduced to the league in 1982.

going by your logic, i can end the debate by saying the rangers have 4 cups, and the devils have 2.5. but why would i bring up any NY cup pre-1994? really doesn't have much basis anymore.

going more current, i don't have the exact records, and i am well aware that 24 winless streak with the devils, but i know post lock out, we have definitly turned that leaf and have the winning record.

you have only beaten us once in four playoff series. and that one win was with a one armed jagr, and a migraine plagued lundqvist, who was replaced by weekes. i wouldn't exactly call that a proud series to win.

you have gone through more coaching changes in recent years than the rangers.

fife · July 2010

blackredyellow wrote:

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

Indifference71 wrote:

These NHL contracts are getting ridiculous. 17 years????

can you say lockout when the CBA runs out in a few years? ever since the lockout when they claimed they didn't have money, we've seen deals of 13, 15 and 17 years given to players. what's next a lifetime contract?

What does the length of term have to do with how much money the league has? The big issue was the growing revenue vs salary structure of the league... that has been fixed with the cap....

not really, you have many teams/owners in the NHL who are not happy with the CBA. many teams can't even afford the base cap.

Gary Carter · July 2010

Drowned Out wrote:

brother123 wrote:

smarchee wrote:

don't like this guy

don't like the Devils

both will increase with this signing

hope it doesnt work out

So why, tell me, post in a thread about the Devils and Ilya??

This is THE marquee free agent signing of the off-season, and he signed a huge, unconventional contract...the whole hockey world has an opinion on this - I dont think its really trolling for Devil-haters to comment.
.I would not put my cup dreams on the shoulders of this guy, no way. Alexi Yashin anyone? have fun getting rid of him with this contract, if/when he does tank.

speaking of yashin

The islanders recently contacted him to play for the team again. I guess they figured might as well have him on our team since where paying him till 2015.

Drowned Out · July 2010

metsfan wrote:

speaking of yashin

The islanders recently contacted him to play for the team again. I guess they figured might as well have him on our team since where paying him till 2015.

Ouch. How's that DiPietro contract workin out for you guys?
I seriously don't like signing guys to big contracts for any more than three years. I know it makes it hard to retain, or lure away the big names...but it's just too risky unless you have a sure-fire winner. There are maybe five or six guys in the league I'd sign for five years or more, and Kovy isn't one of them.

I've said it a million times, the Oilers cup run in 06 was the worst thing that could have happened to our team...we signed a bunch of guys that over-achieved in ONE post-season to long-term, big number deals, and got stuck with them for a looooong time after their game came back to earth. I just don't get the logic behind the Kovalchuck deal - esp with all the precedents set by either disappearing or early-to-retire Russians.

brother123 · July 2010

Drowned Out wrote:

brother123 wrote:

smarchee wrote:

don't like this guy

don't like the Devils

both will increase with this signing

hope it doesnt work out

So why, tell me, post in a thread about the Devils and Ilya??

This is THE marquee free agent signing of the off-season, and he signed a huge, unconventional contract...the whole hockey world has an opinion on this - I dont think its really trolling for Devil-haters to comment.
.I would not put my cup dreams on the shoulders of this guy, no way. Alexi Yashin anyone? have fun getting rid of him with this contract, if/when he does tank.

I understand the ramifications of having such a long contract and yes he can't be expected to produce throughout his contract. I'm I pinning all my hopes on this guy? No, it's not just one person who makes a difference it's the combine lines. Put him with Parise, Langy, and Zubrus and you've got a great line.

ILYA KOVALCHUCK STILL A DEVIL!!!!!

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