the death penalty

chadwick wrote:

this is why i am amazed.
some of you have been existing in your lives, under a rock.

nobody would ever do those wild things you say, chad.
chadwick, you are stretching the story out of proportion
those nasty scary ppl don't exist, now stop it, nobody is that cruel.

:twisted: oh yes they are :evil:

under a rock?

sure.

i'm a critical care paramedic, and have seen more broken bodies and smashed in heads that you seem to be so fond of describing, than i care to remember.

It's all circular - violence, killing, death (whether just or unjust) begets the same result.

chadwick wrote:

this is why i am amazed.
some of you have been existing in your lives, under a rock.

nobody would ever do those wild things you say, chad.
chadwick, you are stretching the story out of proportion
those nasty scary ppl don't exist, now stop it, nobody is that cruel.

:twisted: oh yes they are :evil:

TriumphantAngel wrote:

chadwick wrote:

this is why i am amazed.
some of you have been existing in your lives, under a rock.

nobody would ever do those wild things you say, chad.
chadwick, you are stretching the story out of proportion
those nasty scary ppl don't exist, now stop it, nobody is that cruel.

:twisted: oh yes they are :evil:

under a rock?

sure.

i'm a critical care paramedic, and have seen more broken bodies and smashed in heads that you seem to be so fond of describing, than i care to remember.

that is an awesome job you are doing.
very well done.

Billy Pumpkin wrote:

eyedclaar wrote:

And I still don't buy any kind of definitive morality about taking another life. Just because you feel that way, doesn't make it so.

how can you even pretend that it's not immoral to take another human life? that's what seperates us from the "monsters" that Chadwick keeps regailing us with stories of!

I'll say it for an 87th time..........and please answer this time...........someone........WHAT gives anyone the right to take the life of another human being? And don't use "they gave up their rights to live yadda yadda yadda". Where was it stated in some divine book that told you that they gave up their right to live for x crime? Who decided this? Tell me! Who??

why are you hiding from the real monsters i describe?
they are real crime reports.
happens all around the globe on a daily basis.

no one said this stuff didn't happen. we're just kind of getting tired of the drawn out explanations of what these people did or hypothetically did. don't you get it? no death penalty means no death penalty, under any circumstances? nothing real or dreamed up would matter to me. NO DEATH PENALTY.

chadwick wrote:

this is why i am amazed.
some of you have been existing in your lives, under a rock.

nobody would ever do those wild things you say, chad.
chadwick, you are stretching the story out of proportion
those nasty scary ppl don't exist, now stop it, nobody is that cruel.

:twisted: oh yes they are :evil:

not a gut feeling. you don't think you have a right to live? so do you think a woman doesn't have the right not to be raped? that a child doesn't have the right not to be abused? come on, buddy, that's weak and you know it. I don't care how far in the woods you live.

I think the onus of proof is on those that would take action, not those that would take inaction. Just like a defendant. The onus is left with those who wish to take away their rights, not the one that would keep them. Unless you still live under the rule of the dark ages, then I guess we can go find a girl, cry out "witch!" and then burn her at the stake.

eyedclaar wrote:

Billy Pumpkin wrote:

eyedclaar wrote:

And I still don't buy any kind of definitive morality about taking another life. Just because you feel that way, doesn't make it so.

how can you even pretend that it's not immoral to take another human life? that's what seperates us from the "monsters" that Chadwick keeps regailing us with stories of!

I'll say it for an 87th time..........and please answer this time...........someone........WHAT gives anyone the right to take the life of another human being? And don't use "they gave up their rights to live yadda yadda yadda". Where was it stated in some divine book that told you that they gave up their right to live for x crime? Who decided this? Tell me! Who??

Where is your source that says taking anything's life is immoral? Your personal gut feeling? Tell me! Where? I could grease what I consider a monster without feeling like one myself... so where does that leave us? Both with our own opionions on the subject. Again, just because it makes sense to you, that still doesn't make it some universal truth.

eyedclaar wrote:

All I know is that I'd rather someone just kill me than send me to one of those places for the rest of my life.

i guess that's easy to say when you are not in that situation though eyed. and that's a choice you are making about what should happen to you. not someone else. do you at least concede that?

Billy Pumpkin wrote:

no one said this stuff didn't happen. we're just kind of getting tired of the drawn out explanations of what these people did or hypothetically did. don't you get it? no death penalty means no death penalty, under any circumstances? nothing real or dreamed up would matter to me. NO DEATH PENALTY.

chadwick wrote:

this is why i am amazed.
some of you have been existing in your lives, under a rock.

nobody would ever do those wild things you say, chad.
chadwick, you are stretching the story out of proportion
those nasty scary ppl don't exist, now stop it, nobody is that cruel.

:twisted: oh yes they are :evil:

someone right now
somewhere in the world
is being shot for being a monster.

this is well done.
monsters should die.

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

nobody is hiding from anything. where are these monsters that you feel the need to warn us of oh great catcher in the rye? why do you have no opinion on the other thread? because when faced with the reality of a real situation you don't speak up because you know you are wrong?

i hope your poetry is better than your rhetoric and hyperbole, otherwise nobody would buy it...

what other thread, mr. guitars?