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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    here's a good one.

    is it fraudulent of me to root for the celtics to beat the lakers? now, mind you, i have seen about 15 minutes total of this nba finals. the nba blows for me unless the sixers are playing...even then its tough for obvious reasons.

    the sixers and celtics were one of the nba's biggest rivalries when i was a young buck. i am old enough to remember some of it. but i have utter disdain for the lakers soley due to kobe bryant. i have hated this kid since he was a smug 13 year old playing for bala cynwood middle school. he was a pompous jerk then and even bigger one now.

    so, considering, the celtics and sixers rivalry is as dead as gary coleman these days, am i a fraud for wanting them to beat the lakers?

    as a side note: i vaguely recal sixers fans and celtics fans chanting "beat LA" at the end of their respective series when it was apparent that the home team was about to lose and the other one was off to face the lakers.
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  • 81
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    The Jeagler wrote:
    here's a good one.

    is it fraudulent of me to root for the celtics to beat the lakers? now, mind you, i have seen about 15 minutes total of this nba finals. the nba blows for me unless the sixers are playing...even then its tough for obvious reasons.

    the sixers and celtics were one of the nba's biggest rivalries when i was a young buck. i am old enough to remember some of it. but i have utter disdain for the lakers soley due to kobe bryant. i have hated this kid since he was a smug 13 year old playing for bala cynwood middle school. he was a pompous jerk then and even bigger one now.

    so, considering, the celtics and sixers rivalry is as dead as gary coleman these days, am i a fraud for wanting them to beat the lakers?

    as a side note: i vaguely recal sixers fans and celtics fans chanting "beat LA" at the end of their respective series when it was apparent that the home team was about to lose and the other one was off to face the lakers.


    no...once your team is elimated, you are allowed to pull for whomever you want for whatever reason you want. just don't be running around like you are a real celtics fan and don't be buying and wearing celtics clear. you need to clearly state that you are a sixers fans, however, in this series you are pulling for the celtics.
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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    The Jeagler wrote:
    here's a bump for HALFAJAPPA!

    regarding the world cup....you root for your home country first but you can root for the country of your ethnic decent secondly.

    if you're half a jappa and halfa something else....by all means go ahead and root for both halves :mrgreen:
    I am glad we've cleared this up...
    But unfortunately another complication to the matter...
    I've enrolled in the world cup sweepstakes message pit thing, i've been drawn for South Africa.

    Where's that in the rule book?!?!
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    haffajappa wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    here's a bump for HALFAJAPPA!

    regarding the world cup....you root for your home country first but you can root for the country of your ethnic decent secondly.

    if you're half a jappa and halfa something else....by all means go ahead and root for both halves :mrgreen:
    I am glad we've cleared this up...
    But unfortunately another complication to the matter...
    I've enrolled in the world cup sweepstakes message pit thing, i've been drawn for South Africa.

    Where's that in the rule book?!?!

    gambling...especially a random pool is a different story. you're okay here HAFFAJAPPA.
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  • The Juggler
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    81 wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    here's a good one.

    is it fraudulent of me to root for the celtics to beat the lakers? now, mind you, i have seen about 15 minutes total of this nba finals. the nba blows for me unless the sixers are playing...even then its tough for obvious reasons.

    the sixers and celtics were one of the nba's biggest rivalries when i was a young buck. i am old enough to remember some of it. but i have utter disdain for the lakers soley due to kobe bryant. i have hated this kid since he was a smug 13 year old playing for bala cynwood middle school. he was a pompous jerk then and even bigger one now.

    so, considering, the celtics and sixers rivalry is as dead as gary coleman these days, am i a fraud for wanting them to beat the lakers?

    as a side note: i vaguely recal sixers fans and celtics fans chanting "beat LA" at the end of their respective series when it was apparent that the home team was about to lose and the other one was off to face the lakers.


    no...once your team is elimated, you are allowed to pull for whomever you want for whatever reason you want. just don't be running around like you are a real celtics fan and don't be buying and wearing celtics clear. you need to clearly state that you are a sixers fans, however, in this series you are pulling for the celtics.

    i appreciate the fact that you think i am not a fraud in this case but i kind of disagree with your statement. as an eagles fan, if they are eliminated, there is no way i can or will root for the cowboys. in your scenario that would be okay.

    in my nba finals scenario--under normal circumstances i think i would be a fraud. but the kobe history thing is what tips the scales....
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    The Jeagler wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Okay...here's a question. There are a few of us here that think using the phrase "we" when referring to a professional sports team is unacceptable. With the World Cup less than 24hours away, I pose the question:

    Is it okay to use "we" when referring to the team representing your country in the World Cup? I say it is absolutely acceptable.

    i'm okay with "we" if it is your hometown and you've had a vested interest in them your entire life.

    what's the difference in not liking "we" for a team representing your city verses a team representing your country though? you're not on either team personally. it's the same thing.

    I think a team in the World Cup is representing their country a whole lot more than players for a professional team making millions are representing their city. I think its a huge difference.
  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    whew i'm so relieved.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Okay...here's a question. There are a few of us here that think using the phrase "we" when referring to a professional sports team is unacceptable. With the World Cup less than 24hours away, I pose the question:

    Is it okay to use "we" when referring to the team representing your country in the World Cup? I say it is absolutely acceptable.

    i'm okay with "we" if it is your hometown and you've had a vested interest in them your entire life.

    what's the difference in not liking "we" for a team representing your city verses a team representing your country though? you're not on either team personally. it's the same thing.

    I think a team in the World Cup is representing their country a whole lot more than players for a professional team making millions are representing their city. I think its a huge difference.

    world cup players are making millions too though. it's a little different because its a country thing. but they are still representing where you're from and you are not on the team. home town, home country. go ahead and "we" it up dude!

    what time is usa/england tomorrow?
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    The Jeagler wrote:

    world cup players are making millions too though. it's a little different because its a country thing. but they are still representing where you're from and you are not on the team. home town, home country. go ahead and "we" it up dude!

    what time is usa/england tomorrow?

    2:30

    I think the country thing is a big difference but whatever. I am "we" ing it up for the next month (I am 100% positive that does not sounds right).
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    The Jeagler wrote:
    81 wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    here's a good one.

    is it fraudulent of me to root for the celtics to beat the lakers? now, mind you, i have seen about 15 minutes total of this nba finals. the nba blows for me unless the sixers are playing...even then its tough for obvious reasons.

    the sixers and celtics were one of the nba's biggest rivalries when i was a young buck. i am old enough to remember some of it. but i have utter disdain for the lakers soley due to kobe bryant. i have hated this kid since he was a smug 13 year old playing for bala cynwood middle school. he was a pompous jerk then and even bigger one now.

    so, considering, the celtics and sixers rivalry is as dead as gary coleman these days, am i a fraud for wanting them to beat the lakers?

    as a side note: i vaguely recal sixers fans and celtics fans chanting "beat LA" at the end of their respective series when it was apparent that the home team was about to lose and the other one was off to face the lakers.


    no...once your team is elimated, you are allowed to pull for whomever you want for whatever reason you want. just don't be running around like you are a real celtics fan and don't be buying and wearing celtics clear. you need to clearly state that you are a sixers fans, however, in this series you are pulling for the celtics.

    i appreciate the fact that you think i am not a fraud in this case but i kind of disagree with your statement. as an eagles fan, if they are eliminated, there is no way i can or will root for the cowboys. in your scenario that would be okay.

    in my nba finals scenario--under normal circumstances i think i would be a fraud. but the kobe history thing is what tips the scales....

    He did say you can root for whomever you want for whatever reason you want. In my case even though I cannot stand the Montreal Canadiens I rooted for them ONLY to have the potential series of the Bruins and Canadiens play for entry into the Finals. Once the Bruins were eliminated I was back to reality.

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  • 81
    81 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    The Jeagler wrote:
    81 wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    here's a good one.

    is it fraudulent of me to root for the celtics to beat the lakers? now, mind you, i have seen about 15 minutes total of this nba finals. the nba blows for me unless the sixers are playing...even then its tough for obvious reasons.

    the sixers and celtics were one of the nba's biggest rivalries when i was a young buck. i am old enough to remember some of it. but i have utter disdain for the lakers soley due to kobe bryant. i have hated this kid since he was a smug 13 year old playing for bala cynwood middle school. he was a pompous jerk then and even bigger one now.

    so, considering, the celtics and sixers rivalry is as dead as gary coleman these days, am i a fraud for wanting them to beat the lakers?

    as a side note: i vaguely recal sixers fans and celtics fans chanting "beat LA" at the end of their respective series when it was apparent that the home team was about to lose and the other one was off to face the lakers.


    no...once your team is elimated, you are allowed to pull for whomever you want for whatever reason you want. just don't be running around like you are a real celtics fan and don't be buying and wearing celtics clear. you need to clearly state that you are a sixers fans, however, in this series you are pulling for the celtics.

    i appreciate the fact that you think i am not a fraud in this case but i kind of disagree with your statement. as an eagles fan, if they are eliminated, there is no way i can or will root for the cowboys. in your scenario that would be okay.

    in my nba finals scenario--under normal circumstances i think i would be a fraud. but the kobe history thing is what tips the scales....

    fine, then you are a fraud for rooting for either team.
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  • Flagg
    Flagg Posts: 5,856
    I got a tough one.

    My wife took a trip to New England. She thought it would be nice to get me a souvenir. She bought a Red Sox cap for me.

    Now what?

    Do I wear it? Only when she is around? Do I fake it and say "Wow, what a nice gift" while secretly cursing the hat?

    Disclaimer: I don't hate the Red Sox. They have nothing to do with the Rangers. I would be like if she visited Seattle and got me a Seahawks shirt or something. If it was an Angels hat I would burn it on sight.
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    Flagg wrote:
    I got a tough one.

    My wife took a trip to New England. She thought it would be nice to get me a souvenir. She bought a Red Sox cap for me.

    Now what?

    Do I wear it? Only when she is around? Do I fake it and say "Wow, what a nice gift" while secretly cursing the hat?

    Disclaimer: I don't hate the Red Sox. They have nothing to do with the Rangers. I would be like if she visited Seattle and got me a Seahawks shirt or something. If it was an Angels hat I would burn it on sight.



    you should put on a wife beater t shirt and have a "conversation" with her. Unless you just met last night in Vegas and had a drunk wedding, she really should know better. I'd put it on ebay.
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  • The Juggler
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    Flagg wrote:
    I got a tough one.

    My wife took a trip to New England. She thought it would be nice to get me a souvenir. She bought a Red Sox cap for me.

    Now what?

    Do I wear it? Only when she is around? Do I fake it and say "Wow, what a nice gift" while secretly cursing the hat?

    Disclaimer: I don't hate the Red Sox. They have nothing to do with the Rangers. I would be like if she visited Seattle and got me a Seahawks shirt or something. If it was an Angels hat I would burn it on sight.


    this is interesting. i do not think you can wear this hat what so ever.

    the bigger issue, though, is perhaps you are not as big a fan of the rangers as you lead on? i don't know. i do know my fiance would not entertain the idea of purchasing another team/town's hat for me.

    maybe you need to re-program the wife a bit? i have heard they need a bi-yearly tune up every now and then. :lol::lol:
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  • Flagg
    Flagg Posts: 5,856
    The Jeagler wrote:
    Flagg wrote:
    I got a tough one.

    My wife took a trip to New England. She thought it would be nice to get me a souvenir. She bought a Red Sox cap for me.

    Now what?

    Do I wear it? Only when she is around? Do I fake it and say "Wow, what a nice gift" while secretly cursing the hat?

    Disclaimer: I don't hate the Red Sox. They have nothing to do with the Rangers. I would be like if she visited Seattle and got me a Seahawks shirt or something. If it was an Angels hat I would burn it on sight.


    this is interesting. i do not think you can wear this hat what so ever.

    the bigger issue, though, is perhaps you are not as big a fan of the rangers as you lead on? i don't know. i do know my fiance would not entertain the idea of purchasing another team/town's hat for me.

    maybe you need to re-program the wife a bit? i have heard they need a bi-yearly tune up every now and then. :lol::lol:

    Maybe I can plug her into the Mac. Is there an app for that?

    I think she was thinking along the lines of it being harmless because they aren't rivals. If I continue wearing my stinky, dusty old Rangers cap maybe she will get the hint.
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  • The Juggler
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    Flagg wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    Flagg wrote:
    I got a tough one.

    My wife took a trip to New England. She thought it would be nice to get me a souvenir. She bought a Red Sox cap for me.

    Now what?

    Do I wear it? Only when she is around? Do I fake it and say "Wow, what a nice gift" while secretly cursing the hat?

    Disclaimer: I don't hate the Red Sox. They have nothing to do with the Rangers. I would be like if she visited Seattle and got me a Seahawks shirt or something. If it was an Angels hat I would burn it on sight.


    this is interesting. i do not think you can wear this hat what so ever.

    the bigger issue, though, is perhaps you are not as big a fan of the rangers as you lead on? i don't know. i do know my fiance would not entertain the idea of purchasing another team/town's hat for me.

    maybe you need to re-program the wife a bit? i have heard they need a bi-yearly tune up every now and then. :lol::lol:

    Maybe I can plug her into the Mac. Is there an app for that?

    I think she was thinking along the lines of it being harmless because they aren't rivals. If I continue wearing my stinky, dusty old Rangers cap maybe she will get the hint.


    gotta rock the old school hat.

    i've been sporting the same birds hat since '96. only really wear it on game days though...old hats have so much character.
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  • catefrances
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    81 wrote:
    Flagg wrote:
    I got a tough one.

    My wife took a trip to New England. She thought it would be nice to get me a souvenir. She bought a Red Sox cap for me.

    Now what?

    Do I wear it? Only when she is around? Do I fake it and say "Wow, what a nice gift" while secretly cursing the hat?

    Disclaimer: I don't hate the Red Sox. They have nothing to do with the Rangers. I would be like if she visited Seattle and got me a Seahawks shirt or something. If it was an Angels hat I would burn it on sight.



    you should put on a wife beater t shirt and have a "conversation" with her. Unless you just met last night in Vegas and had a drunk wedding, she really should know better. I'd put it on ebay.


    this ^^

    when i was in NY, knowing how fanatical my father is about his chosen team, i erred on the side of caution and bought him a NYFD cap instead of that of a NY sporting team i knew hed never wear lest he feel like a fraud.
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  • The Juggler
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    catefrances wrote:
    81 wrote:
    Flagg wrote:
    I got a tough one.

    My wife took a trip to New England. She thought it would be nice to get me a souvenir. She bought a Red Sox cap for me.

    Now what?

    Do I wear it? Only when she is around? Do I fake it and say "Wow, what a nice gift" while secretly cursing the hat?

    Disclaimer: I don't hate the Red Sox. They have nothing to do with the Rangers. I would be like if she visited Seattle and got me a Seahawks shirt or something. If it was an Angels hat I would burn it on sight.



    you should put on a wife beater t shirt and have a "conversation" with her. Unless you just met last night in Vegas and had a drunk wedding, she really should know better. I'd put it on ebay.


    this ^^

    when i was in NY, knowing how fanatical my father is about his chosen team, i erred on the side of caution and bought him a NYFD cap instead of that of a NY sporting team i knew hed never wear lest he feel like a fraud.

    i love how catefrancis gets the whole fraud thing :clap::clap:
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  • catefrances
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    The Jeagler wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    81 wrote:

    you should put on a wife beater t shirt and have a "conversation" with her. Unless you just met last night in Vegas and had a drunk wedding, she really should know better. I'd put it on ebay.


    this ^^

    when i was in NY, knowing how fanatical my father is about his chosen team, i erred on the side of caution and bought him a NYFD cap instead of that of a NY sporting team i knew hed never wear lest he feel like a fraud.

    i love how catefrancis gets the whole fraud thing :clap::clap:


    i get the whole fraud thing but.. once your team is out i find it necessary to pick sides .. otherwise i lose interest. but there are matchups where i couldnt give a toss cause both teams are sworn enemies of my team.. heck i cant even find it in me to support our local AFL team cause they wear the colours of a sworn league enemy. my father taught(brainwashed) me well... perhaps a little too well. 8-)
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  • The Juggler
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    catefrances wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    catefrances wrote:


    this ^^

    when i was in NY, knowing how fanatical my father is about his chosen team, i erred on the side of caution and bought him a NYFD cap instead of that of a NY sporting team i knew hed never wear lest he feel like a fraud.

    i love how catefrancis gets the whole fraud thing :clap::clap:


    i get the whole fraud thing but.. once your team is out i find it necessary to pick sides .. otherwise i lose interest. but there are matchups where i couldnt give a toss cause both teams are sworn enemies of my team.. heck i cant even find it in me to support our local AFL team cause they wear the colours of a sworn league enemy. my father taught(brainwashed) me well... perhaps a little too well. 8-)


    well once your team is out, you can root for whoever's left as long as they're not your team's sworn enemy/rival. like when the eagles lost to the cowboys last year---no eagle fan worth his salt would even think of rooting for the cowboys. in fact--that is worth mentioning: if one of your main rivals is playing...you will always have a team to root for---whoever's playing against said rival.
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