the lottery is crap, ten club bullshit!

demetrios wrote:

Veddster wrote:

i thought they reserved the closest side section to the stage for friends and family?

guess that wasnt good enough :roll:

Imagine if 10club member's gave out lottery ticket's to be on stage, watching the whole show on the side of Mike or Stone, or even score backstage passes?

It's tough to make every fan happy @ the show's. Personally, it must be fait but I don't gamble cause it's a sin. And I guess that's why I don't win in these lottery things. When 10club announced about the lottery during the Ed Solo show's April '08, i've been to 16+ show's using my 10club ticket's and haven't scored a row 1, 2, 9 or 10. I've seen many many friends & people on the same tour's that I know who did these show's with me & they scored maybe 3 to 4 times in those row's. I thought too that once you get that lottery hot seat, your name is out of the lottery hat for the next shows. Let the other 10club member's who are @ those show get a chance to score a piece of the action. But I guess that doesn't work at all.

I'm 0 for 6 thus far since the lottery has been installed..........I agree that once you win, you should be out (at least for that particular tour)

bazzer wrote:

UpSideDown wrote:

I'm 0 for 6 thus far since the lottery has been installed..........I agree that once you win, you should be out (at least for that particular tour)

It's probably not worth it. The extra work to keep track of who won and who didn't compared to the probability of someone winning it more than once. If the probability of winning the lottery is 10%, then the probability of two shows is only 1%!

I'd be bummed if I'd been to 16 shows and no lottery though, what are the chances?!

Yeah, but D won the "I have an awesome high paying job and can take as much time off as I want" lottery. :clap:

Wilds wrote:

bazzer wrote:

UpSideDown wrote:

I'm 0 for 6 thus far since the lottery has been installed..........I agree that once you win, you should be out (at least for that particular tour)

It's probably not worth it. The extra work to keep track of who won and who didn't compared to the probability of someone winning it more than once. If the probability of winning the lottery is 10%, then the probability of two shows is only 1%!

I'd be bummed if I'd been to 16 shows and no lottery though, what are the chances?!

Yeah, but D won the "I have an awesome high paying job and can take as much time off as I want" lottery. :clap:

I wish! :shock: Or maybe you got me mixed up with dimitrispearljam. If I was rich I wouldn't have to be on my hands & knee's breaking my back each day, especially the weekends, laying Made in Chinese crap & swearing @ the ceramic tiles while I try to install them evenly @ the job site. I would of been to tonight's show & especially each & every Boston Bruins playoff games.

And yes, i'm totally bummed out that I haven't won the lottery but it's all good. I'm there, with my friend sharing my 10club ticket & having a good time. Wherever they play. Indoors or outdoors. Watching our favorite band play.

Wilds wrote:

demetrios wrote:

I wish! :shock: Or maybe you got me mixed up with dimitrispearljam. If I was rich I wouldn't have to be on my hands & knee's breaking my back each day, especially the weekends, laying Made in Chinese crap & swearing @ the ceramic tiles while I try to install them evenly @ the job site. I would of been to tonight's show & especially each & every Boston Bruins playoff games.

And yes, i'm totally bummed out that I haven't won the lottery but it's all good. I'm there, with my friend sharing my 10club ticket & having a good time. Wherever they play. Indoors or outdoors. Watching our favorite band play.

Yeah.... just fooling around. I'm 'rich' by most standards. I live paycheck to paycheck. Work like a dog all over the state of California, but have seen PJ 10 times since the 'lottery'. (well PJ/EV)....

Totally blessed to have that opportunity and the money to make it happen.

Just sayin' anyone who can go to 10/16 or whatever shows already hit the lottery!

I hit the 'lottery' by being in the building and I know you share that sentiment! :thumbup:

OK, soapbox time. So I can justify what I mean by 'rich'.

My world view, having traveled quite a bit, really makes me understand how lucky we are in North America, Europe, and Australia. Pretty much all the places PJ goes.

Most people don't have the luxury to worry about sitting in the first row. They have to worry about the next meal. Even in America we have so many poor people.

I read a statistic once that said, if you ever reach down and have spare change in your pocket, you are probably among the top 6% of the richest people on earth.

Now I don't know if that is true by the numbers, but I do know that as a 'middle class' American I have all the food I could ever want, a nice place to live, two cars (mine and the wife's), we are clothed to our hearts desire, and vacation and do fun stuff all the time.

So by rich, I mean all of us, and at that point it is just fun to point in out (in jest) how lucky we are when it comes to following this amazing band, and how much happiness that brings us all.

This type of thing should probably be pointed out every time some spoiled whiner comes on here with a thread that starts with. "the lottery is crap, ten club bullshit!".

Wilds wrote:

demetrios wrote:

I wish! :shock: Or maybe you got me mixed up with dimitrispearljam. If I was rich I wouldn't have to be on my hands & knee's breaking my back each day, especially the weekends, laying Made in Chinese crap & swearing @ the ceramic tiles while I try to install them evenly @ the job site. I would of been to tonight's show & especially each & every Boston Bruins playoff games.

And yes, i'm totally bummed out that I haven't won the lottery but it's all good. I'm there, with my friend sharing my 10club ticket & having a good time. Wherever they play. Indoors or outdoors. Watching our favorite band play.

Yeah.... just fooling around. I'm 'rich' by most standards. I live paycheck to paycheck. Work like a dog all over the state of California, but have seen PJ 10 times since the 'lottery'. (well PJ/EV)....

Totally blessed to have that opportunity and the money to make it happen.

Just sayin' anyone who can go to 10/16 or whatever shows already hit the lottery!

I hit the 'lottery' by being in the building and I know you share that sentiment! :thumbup:

I sure do! I guess my lottery win is when I'm online, having a hard time breathing, sweating, flipping out, hand's & arm's numb, climbing the walls & blood rushing to the head while I try for 10club ticket's. That is my lottery winning. No lottery winning seats. In the end, it's about being inside the building and seeing Pearl Jam at work. That's all that matters.

LoveBoatAdmiral wrote:

I have no idea what this particular drama is, but I have to say that I find it slightly unsettling that the ticket window operators take your tix out of the envelope before they give them to you. In Toronto last year, the woman giving me my tickets was facing the ticket stacks for a long time, and it appeared she pulled a pair of tickets, put them back, and pulled another pair and gave them to me. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but my spidey senses were tingling.

In Toronto '09, did you get your tickets outside by the tent? I didn't have a problem when I picked mine up. Showed them my drivers license. They looked through the shiny tin box. Found my name. Opened the envelope to make sure 2 tickets were there. Then she passed me the tickets.

demetrios wrote:

LoveBoatAdmiral wrote:

I have no idea what this particular drama is, but I have to say that I find it slightly unsettling that the ticket window operators take your tix out of the envelope before they give them to you. In Toronto last year, the woman giving me my tickets was facing the ticket stacks for a long time, and it appeared she pulled a pair of tickets, put them back, and pulled another pair and gave them to me. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but my spidey senses were tingling.

In Toronto '09, did you get your tickets outside by the tent? I didn't have a problem when I picked mine up. Showed them my drivers license. They looked through the shiny tin box. Found my name. Opened the envelope to make sure 2 tickets were there. Then she passed me the tickets.

Yea, same situation, it just took her a long time to "find" my tickets and I sensed that there was more than one pair of tickets pulled. I'm not calling shenanigans cause I don't know for sure, but something seemed off at the time.

LoveBoatAdmiral wrote:

demetrios wrote:

LoveBoatAdmiral wrote:

I have no idea what this particular drama is, but I have to say that I find it slightly unsettling that the ticket window operators take your tix out of the envelope before they give them to you. In Toronto last year, the woman giving me my tickets was facing the ticket stacks for a long time, and it appeared she pulled a pair of tickets, put them back, and pulled another pair and gave them to me. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but my spidey senses were tingling.

In Toronto '09, did you get your tickets outside by the tent? I didn't have a problem when I picked mine up. Showed them my drivers license. They looked through the shiny tin box. Found my name. Opened the envelope to make sure 2 tickets were there. Then she passed me the tickets.

Yea, same situation, it just took her a long time to "find" my tickets and I sensed that there was more than one pair of tickets pulled. I'm not calling shenanigans cause I don't know for sure, but something seemed off at the time.

How were your seats?

Friends and family are usually put in the sections right next to the side of the stage...