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  • cowboypjfan
    cowboypjfan Posts: 2,453
    You might need to take safeties and cb's the rest of the way to hold off the Cowboys O next season :D

    It's gonna be ridiculous. The funny thing is, I think Dez Bryant will be better than Desean Jackson. However, they have a lot of similarities.
  • cowboypjfan
    cowboypjfan Posts: 2,453
    Does it haunt you guys that the Eagles didn't take Earl Thomas? It should...
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    crazypjfan wrote:
    Does it haunt you guys that the Eagles didn't take Earl Thomas? It should...


    seriously?

    i'd be willing to bet you never heard of him until a few days ago...head back to last year's cowboys thread guy. men are talking here.


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  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    I don't think there's a shot in hell some team gives us a 3rd pick for Vick. A 5th would probably be the best and i doubt even that.
    call up the broncos i'm sure they'd love to have another below average qb to the mix.


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  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    metsfan wrote:
    I don't think there's a shot in hell some team gives us a 3rd pick for Vick. A 5th would probably be the best and i doubt even that.
    call up the broncos i'm sure they'd love to have another below average qb to the mix.


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    Leave my thread now
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  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    metsfan wrote:
    I don't think there's a shot in hell some team gives us a 3rd pick for Vick. A 5th would probably be the best and i doubt even that.
    call up the broncos i'm sure they'd love to have another below average qb to the mix.


    :lol::lol:
    Leave my thread now
    actually it's jiggy's thread and i want my damn ribs

    :P
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    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    pete prisco's eagles draft grade.....A+ :clap::clap::clap::clap: :thumbup:
    i am still digesting this draft. spent yesterday at an all day jack and jill baby shower and got completely annihilated. seriously. jack and jill baby showers mixed with pool, beer pong, and the draft is a deadly combination. but my draft geek friend was pretty stoked when we took that ricky sapp guy yesterday. apparently pete prisco loves him....

    rest of division:
    giants.....A
    redskins...B-
    dallas.....B-

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/stor ... ist_footer

    Philadelphia Eagles

    Best pick: Trading up in the first round to get Brandon Graham. He will be a 13-sack player in two years. I love the kid.

    Questionable move: Trading Donovan McNabb for a second-round pick. But that's nitpicking.

    Third-day gem: Fifth-round pick Ricky Sapp was a potential first-round selection until he tore up a knee two years ago. He moved to outside linebacker, but he is more of a down end.

    Analysis: You look up and down their draft board and it's full of really good players. They had a lot of picks and the Eagles really did a nice job with them. That shouldn't be surprising.

    Grade: A+
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    thinking in terms of the off season as a whole, here is what i posted in january to start this thread:
    my quick take? there are lots of questions and holes to fill. however its not something that can't be done before next season. it's not like we were 2-14 or the bills or something (chan gailey?!?!?! :wtf: ).

    needs: d end opposite cole who can actually get to the qb...either middle or strong side lb (depending where they put stu) and saftey on d. offense is pretty much set and will only get better as the young bucks get more seasoned. need to get healthy on the line and pick up a back rb if westbrook doesnt come back. if don goes, i actually think kolb can manage the offense with this accuracy.
    what say you?
    GO BIRDS!

    i thought we had 3 main priorites: 1: d end. 2: saftey. 3: linebacker. and i also thought kolb will be fine with his accuracy and the multitude of weapons already in place.

    apparently the eagles listened to me.
    1-graham's gonna get to the qb and free up cole from being double teamed. i know people wish he was bigger. but he fits the mold and philosophy that reid has had since he's been here: speed speed speed. plus he's the same size as dumberville and freeney. i like the pick.

    2-nate allen was a solid pick up at 37. a saftey who can cover and lay some people out. i read that he should be able to cover a tight end or two as well which is something we've been lacking. again--smallish, but has tons of speed. great pick.

    3-the ernie simms trade was a steal for a 5th round pick. this was an excellent move. combined with bradley coming back, our lb corp is much improved. it will be interesting to see where everyone plays though. still have gaither, foku, and jordan coming back along with a couple mid round picks this weekend. training camp will be fun to watch.

    we'll see what happens at corner. marlin jackson might end up there. hobbs will be back. this lindley kid might be a player out of kentucky. spending a 4th round pick on a 4 year starter in the sec seems like a good idea to me.

    offense: i would have liked to see them take an o lineman yesterday. but we might not be in as bad shape there as people think either. got a pro bowl (despite all the frustration) tackle with jason peters. herremans is solid at left guard. center is an issue with jackson going to miss some games. but i'm okay with nick cole filling in after a full training camp at that position under his belt. plus we go up against some pretty bad defenses the first month of the season. then you got winston justice who proved he can play in this league at rt, and either max jean or stacy andrews at guard. the line was actually good for most of last season until the end when jackson went down and cole was thrown in there.

    and with one of the best young reciever corps in the league, a pro bowl caliber te, a pro bowl fb and a solid running back, kolb should be fine.

    don't look now but the eagles have managed to rebuild themselves over the past few years without suffering through a typical 3-4 year drought that most teams encounter when flipping over their roster. i like the direction we're heading gentlemen....

    GO BIRDS.
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  • cowboypjfan
    cowboypjfan Posts: 2,453
    pete prisco's eagles draft grade.....A+ :clap::clap::clap::clap: :thumbup:
    i am still digesting this draft. spent yesterday at an all day jack and jill baby shower and got completely annihilated. seriously. jack and jill baby showers mixed with pool, beer pong, and the draft is a deadly combination. but my draft geek friend was pretty stoked when we took that ricky sapp guy yesterday. apparently pete prisco loves him....

    rest of division:
    giants.....A
    redskins...B-
    dallas.....B-

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/stor ... ist_footer

    Philadelphia Eagles

    Best pick: Trading up in the first round to get Brandon Graham. He will be a 13-sack player in two years. I love the kid.

    Questionable move: Trading Donovan McNabb for a second-round pick. But that's nitpicking.

    Third-day gem: Fifth-round pick Ricky Sapp was a potential first-round selection until he tore up a knee two years ago. He moved to outside linebacker, but he is more of a down end.

    Analysis: You look up and down their draft board and it's full of really good players. They had a lot of picks and the Eagles really did a nice job with them. That shouldn't be surprising.

    Grade: A+

    I guess you think Prisco has some credibility? I will keep that in mind when he picks the Cowboys to win this year's Super Bowl.
  • cowboypjfan
    cowboypjfan Posts: 2,453
    Andy Reid keeps on helping the Cowboys
    Gerry Fraley/Reporter

    A lingering question from the draft: Why is Philadelphia coach Andy Reid so willing to help the Cowboys, an NFC East rival?

    In this draft, Reid agreed to a deal that allowed the Cowboys to move up in the second round and select Penn State inside linebacker Sean Lee. The Cowboys indirectly added their first pick, Oklahoma State wide receiver Dez Bryant, from Philadelphia. The pick originally belonged to the Eagles, but Reid sent ti to Denver, which in turn traded it to New England before reaching the Cowboys.

    In 2007, Reid gave a first-rounder to the Cowboys for picks in the second, third and fifth rounds. The Cowboys used that pick on outside linebacker Anthony Spencer, who had a breakthrough performance last season. The Eagles selected quarterback Kevin Kolb of Stephenville, middle linebacker Stewart Bradley and cornerback C.J. Gaddis. None of those picks made an impact for the Eagles last season, but Kolb is in line to replace the traded Donovan McNabb at quarterback.

    Reid made another intra-division move with McNabb, trading him to Washington before the draft.

    Reid's stock reply on trading within the division is that he cares only about improving his club. If that means dealing with a division rival, so be it, he says.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    crazypjfan wrote:
    pete prisco's eagles draft grade.....A+ :clap::clap::clap::clap: :thumbup:
    i am still digesting this draft. spent yesterday at an all day jack and jill baby shower and got completely annihilated. seriously. jack and jill baby showers mixed with pool, beer pong, and the draft is a deadly combination. but my draft geek friend was pretty stoked when we took that ricky sapp guy yesterday. apparently pete prisco loves him....

    rest of division:
    giants.....A
    redskins...B-
    dallas.....B-

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/stor ... ist_footer

    Philadelphia Eagles

    Best pick: Trading up in the first round to get Brandon Graham. He will be a 13-sack player in two years. I love the kid.

    Questionable move: Trading Donovan McNabb for a second-round pick. But that's nitpicking.

    Third-day gem: Fifth-round pick Ricky Sapp was a potential first-round selection until he tore up a knee two years ago. He moved to outside linebacker, but he is more of a down end.

    Analysis: You look up and down their draft board and it's full of really good players. They had a lot of picks and the Eagles really did a nice job with them. That shouldn't be surprising.

    Grade: A+

    I guess you think Prisco has some credibility? I will keep that in mind when he picks the Cowboys to win this year's Super Bowl.


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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    overall looks to be somewhere in the B range. only time will tell though, obviously. i think i'm happy with it...

    http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eag ... rades.html

    Rounding up Eagles draft grades
    The Eagles selected South Florida safety Nate Allen in the second round at No. 37. (Ron Tarver / Staff photographer) Yes, I know that it's probably unfair to hand grades out right after the draft. Instead, we should probably wait until three years after the fact.

    But this is 2010. Who wants to wait that long?

    So here's a roundup of how people across the country are grading the Eagles' draft.

    We'll do this in a couple parts since I know more grades are sure to trickle in today. If you have some that I missed, e-mail me.

    And if you missed it, I offered some analysis with my thoughts on Sunday. Thanks for the kind comments on that piece by the way. Much appreciated.

    The roundup:

    We start locally. Paul Domowitch of the Daily News gives the Eagles an A-minus:

    Graham and Allen should help a defense that gave up 27 TD passes last season. Added more speed at LB, but didn’t get a corner until the fourth round.

    Rick Gosselin of the Dallas Morning News gives the Eagles a C:

    Graham was the most polished pass rusher in this draft. The Eagles also had the best fourth round. Harbor gives QB Kevin Kolb a move tight end in the Dallas Clark mold, and Kafka gives Andy Reid insurance at quarterback.

    ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. gives the Eagles a B-plus:

    The Eagles were positioned well to take advantage of a deep draft, and they did, piling up seven productive picks between the third and fifth rounds. But Philly started well too. In Brandon Graham they have a potential Rookie of the Year on defense. They filled a need at safety with Nate Allen, and I like Trevard Lindley in the fourth. He has second-round ability. Ricky Sapp may be a tweener, but getting a guy who can get to the quarterback like he can in the fifth round is good value. He could be a solid situational pass-rusher early in his career. Riley Cooper is quicker than many people think to go with above-average size.

    SI.com's Ross Tucker thinks the Eagles should have taken Earl Thomas in the first round, not Brandon Graham:


    The Birds need second-round pick Nate Allen to step up and fill the safety spot next to Quentin Mikell. That spot remains a question mark at a very important position in the pass-happy NFL.

    SI.com's Peter King offers his take on the Eagles' draft:

    An OK draft some in the league thought should have been better. I knew one team with draft-managers who cursed loudly when the Eagles traded up and took Brandon Graham at 13 -- instead of Earl Thomas -- because these personnel guys thought Graham was by far the best pass-rusher in the draft. That's what Philly needs, a bookend to Trent Cole. Daniel Te'o-Nesheim is the best defensive end in University of Washington history and should enter the Eagle rotation quickly, and Clay Harbor (125nd overall) will be good alternative to Brent Celek, also quickly. But a few personnel types I spoke with over the weekend though Philly overpicked in a few spots, especially safety Nate Allen of South Florida at 37.

    FoxSports.com's John Czarnecki gives the Eagles a B-minus:

    The Eagles gave up a lot to move up in the first round to take Michigan pass rusher Brandon Graham (pictured), who was a dominant performer in the Big Ten. Andy Reid is hoping that second-round pick Nate Allen of South Florida can shore up the safety position, but he’s not an intimidator like Brian Dawkins was for this franchise.

    CBSSports.com's Pete Prisco gives the Eagles an A-plus:


    You look up and down their draft board and it's full of really good players. They had a lot of picks and the Eagles really did a nice job with them. That shouldn't be surprising.

    Gregg Rosenthal of NBCSports.com gives the Eagles a B:

    Shockingly, Andy Reid didn't pick a single offensive lineman. But the value was good at each selection, and Graham and Allen are certain to help in year one.

    Rob Rang of CBSSports.com gives the Eagles a B:

    For a team that some believe is as deep as any in the league, however, wouldn't packaging some of those lower round picks for top-tier talent have been a better use of them?

    Chris Steuber of Scout.com gives the Eagles an A-minus:

    The biggest surprise of the Eagles draft was third round pick Daniel Te’o-Nesheim from Washington. A tweener on defense who can play inside or outside on the D-Line, Te’o-Nesheim was considered to be a late round prospect.
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  • cowboypjfan
    cowboypjfan Posts: 2,453
    men are talking. run along junior. run along...

    Quit being scared and pay up on your bet from last season. Now that would show me you're a man!

    Double or nothing on this one?: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=129576
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    crazypjfan wrote:
    men are talking. run along junior. run along...

    Quit being scared and pay up on your bet from last season. Now that would show me you're a man!

    Double or nothing on this one?: http://community.pearljam.com/viewtopic ... 4&t=129576


    wow that's pathetic. guess i will add lack of originality to the list of many reasons why cockroach fans are horrendous.

    come on dude. copying my annual thread? you gotta come up with something more creative than that. pretty sad. :roll:
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  • cowboypjfan
    cowboypjfan Posts: 2,453

    come on dude. copying my annual thread? you gotta come up with something more creative than that. pretty sad. :roll:

    copying your annual thread? I am sorry, I didn't realize you had a 50th anniversary thread for the Eagles championship drought.

    The Cowboys broke their playoff streak after your silly thread from last year. Who knows, maybe this is what the Eagles need to wake up and win the big one!?

    Now go try and sell some houses...and be honest to those potential customers, ok?
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    crazypjfan wrote:

    come on dude. copying my annual thread? you gotta come up with something more creative than that. pretty sad. :roll:

    copying your annual thread? I am sorry, I didn't realize you had a 50th anniversary thread for the Eagles championship drought.

    The Cowboys broke their playoff streak after your silly thread from last year. Who knows, maybe this is what the Eagles need to wake up and win the big one!?

    Now go try and sell some houses...and be honest to those potential customers, ok?

    you're a tool. no two ways about it.
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  • cowboypjfan
    cowboypjfan Posts: 2,453
    crazypjfan wrote:

    come on dude. copying my annual thread? you gotta come up with something more creative than that. pretty sad. :roll:

    copying your annual thread? I am sorry, I didn't realize you had a 50th anniversary thread for the Eagles championship drought.

    The Cowboys broke their playoff streak after your silly thread from last year. Who knows, maybe this is what the Eagles need to wake up and win the big one!?

    Now go try and sell some houses...and be honest to those potential customers, ok?

    you're a tool. no two ways about it.

    I'm not the one who spends an entire afternoon writing about a team that is going NOWHERE. :lol:

    And I'm the tool? Right...
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    crazypjfan wrote:
    crazypjfan wrote:

    you're a tool. no two ways about it.

    I'm not the one who spends an entire afternoon writing about a team that is going NOWHERE. :lol:

    And I'm the tool? Right...


    indeed you are. now go beg for more people to post in your thread.

    come at this one with knowledge. not childish instigations.
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  • cowboypjfan
    cowboypjfan Posts: 2,453
    come at this one with knowledge. not childish instigations.

    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    god bless the eagles cheerleaders... and united states of america while we're at it:
    http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/cheer ... /index.asp
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    :shock: :thumbup:
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