LOST- 6th and Final Season (NO SPOILERS)

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  • MK1980
    MK1980 Nottingham, UK Posts: 291
    Thought the episode was good. My own theory is the island is an eden...with the two 'angels' guarding it, (Jacob/'Locke') but that is what I have presumed from day one. They maybe constanly warring, but in the end good will out. Hurley may just be the only sane one left...
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,726
    MK1980 wrote:
    Hurley may just be the only sane one left...
    my thought too
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  • cdp1223
    cdp1223 Posts: 1,131
    Oh yeah...the statue....WTF.
    Are we supposed to believe that the ship demolished 3/4 of that giant statue, while not being broken into shards itself? Was that statue made out of homemade plaster by a 3rd grade art class??
    Or was it implied that the storm is what demolished it? Either way....uh....yeah, not so much. :?

    edit: ALSO.....Richard becomes the property of one Magnus Hanso!!! :shock:
  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Black Diamond wrote:
    I have to say maybe I built the episode up in my head too much, but I was actually disappointed. It really did not give much in way of direction (at least to me)
    I wasn't disappointed but it didn't strike me as one of the all-time greats. I did kind of like having Richard's story told in a fairly linear (guylinear?) fashion instead of flashing back and forth in time. Atypical for Lost. There was some melodrama to his story but the acting helped overcome that.

    I don't think the ship smashed the statue, the storm did. A tsunami that would deposit the ship in the middle of the island could take out the statue as well. I still want to know how the statue got there in the first place and what does ancient Egypt have to do with all this? :? :think:
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  • cdp1223
    cdp1223 Posts: 1,131
    whoprincess wrote:
    Black Diamond wrote:
    I have to say maybe I built the episode up in my head too much, but I was actually disappointed. It really did not give much in way of direction (at least to me)
    I wasn't disappointed but it didn't strike me as one of the all-time greats. I did kind of like having Richard's story told in a fairly linear (guylinear?) fashion instead of flashing back and forth in time. Atypical for Lost. There was some melodrama to his story but the acting helped overcome that.

    I don't think the ship smashed the statue, the storm did. A tsunami that would deposit the ship in the middle of the island could take out the statue as well. I still want to know how the statue got there in the first place and what does ancient Egypt have to do with all this? :? :think:

    Sometimes I think there are just questions I should keep in my head. :lol::lol::lol:
  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    cdp1223 wrote:
    whoprincess wrote:
    Black Diamond wrote:
    I have to say maybe I built the episode up in my head too much, but I was actually disappointed. It really did not give much in way of direction (at least to me)
    I wasn't disappointed but it didn't strike me as one of the all-time greats. I did kind of like having Richard's story told in a fairly linear (guylinear?) fashion instead of flashing back and forth in time. Atypical for Lost. There was some melodrama to his story but the acting helped overcome that.

    I don't think the ship smashed the statue, the storm did. A tsunami that would deposit the ship in the middle of the island could take out the statue as well. I still want to know how the statue got there in the first place and what does ancient Egypt have to do with all this? :? :think:

    Sometimes I think there are just questions I should keep in my head. :lol::lol::lol:
    Nah, I thought that too last night. If the ship hit the statue, it looked awfully intact afterwards! :roll:
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    I say if a cloud of black smoke can stalk people and take them out on that island, than a ship on a tidal wave could also knock over that statue. ;)
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    pjsteelerfan wrote:
    I say if a cloud of black smoke can stalk people and take them out on that island, than a ship on a tidal wave could also knock over that statue. ;)
    True! The laws of time and space don't exactly apply to that island! :lol:
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  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    whoprincess wrote:
    pjsteelerfan wrote:
    I say if a cloud of black smoke can stalk people and take them out on that island, than a ship on a tidal wave could also knock over that statue. ;)
    True! The laws of time and space don't exactly apply to that island! :lol:
    So I got a question, do you think the list of candidates pre determined back when Richard came to the island and how does Desmond fit in to all this? Does he have the ability to see between all the different time warps and have the ability to change things?
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  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Black Diamond wrote:
    whoprincess wrote:
    pjsteelerfan wrote:
    I say if a cloud of black smoke can stalk people and take them out on that island, than a ship on a tidal wave could also knock over that statue. ;)
    True! The laws of time and space don't exactly apply to that island! :lol:
    So I got a question, do you think the list of candidates pre determined back when Richard came to the island and how does Desmond fit in to all this? Does he have the ability to see between all the different time warps and have the ability to change things?
    Wow, I'm gonna need more coffee before I can tackle that one. :crazy:

    Srsly, Desmond has always been a puzzle to me, brothah! He's so clearly a big part of the story but where he fits in, I'm not sure. :eh: :problem: :think:
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  • Bird33
    Bird33 Posts: 120
    whoprincess wrote:
    Black Diamond wrote:
    Poncier wrote:
    They certainly detailed Richard's past. Will discuss at length in the AM when everyone is up to snuff.
    yeah that's fair...
    So we all meet here at what time? :P ;)

    My only comment for tonight is that they still didn't explain his manscara. :think: :eh: :problem:

    just an fyi...richard does not wear manscara. this was discussed in the extras that came with the s5 boxset.
  • cdp1223
    cdp1223 Posts: 1,131
    Bird33 wrote:

    just an fyi...richard does not wear manscara. this was discussed in the extras that came with the s5 boxset.

    I am loving your avatar!!
  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Bird33 wrote:
    whoprincess wrote:
    My only comment for tonight is that they still didn't explain his manscara. :think: :eh: :problem:

    just an fyi...richard does not wear manscara. this was discussed in the extras that came with the s5 boxset.
    Um thanks, but I was aware of that. From what I understand the actor gets asked about that in every role he plays.
    It's just a running joke with Losties.
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  • Bird33
    Bird33 Posts: 120
    cdp1223 wrote:
    Bird33 wrote:

    just an fyi...richard does not wear manscara. this was discussed in the extras that came with the s5 boxset.

    I am loving your avatar!!

    :mrgreen:
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,044
    FirstExit wrote:
    Any Spanish speakers notice that Richard and the Priest were speaking the Mexican dialect of Spanish? Wasn't the Black Rock originally supposed to be coming from Africa??

    Maybe that ship wasn't the black rock....


    In the scene from "The Incident" (S5Ep18), when Jacob and MIB are on the beach at the beginning, there is no storm....


    Also, I'm starting to think the writers of Lost messed up with the statue. They might have meant for the statue to be Anubis, due to Richard saying "el diablo" as soon as he sees it. The statue is of the god of Fertility. The only thing related to fertility about the island is that it provides a re-birth sort of. I guess it provides eternal life now too.
    The setting was the canary Islands in 1867, it was displayed on the screen.

    The ship was the Black Rock, the many shots of the back showing "Black Rock, Portsmouth" make that fairly evident.

    It wasn't Richard who said "El Diablo", it was one of the other slaves who was looking out and telling Richard what he saw.
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  • Riverrunner
    Riverrunner Posts: 2,419
    I enjoyed watching the episode last night. I was surprised at the hell/purgatory/death story line appeared after the producers/creators said early on that was not the case. However, even then I knew that they had no choice but to deny it even if that was true. Fessing up at that point would have ruined the rest of the series.

    In retrospect I was a little disappointed in Richard's history. I was thinking Egyptian or pirate or something more interesting than a poor guy in the Canary Islands. I was also thinking that he had been there longer than 1867, I guess because of my Egyptian thought.

    Also, I am thinking for the most part that Jacob is good, except for the conversation with Richard that he brings people to the island and when Richard asked where they were he said they were all dead. Combine that with his earlier discussion with MIB that the same thing happens over and over again and everything in between is progress, he sounds kind of callous and uncaring. Not something you associate with good.

    And I can' remember the part of Jake's conversation with Richard about the people that he brings there have to choose to do what is right and he can't help them decide, they have to do it on their own. I would like to see or hear that part again.

    And if that is really hell, then what happens to the people that appear to die on the island?
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,726
    Riverrunner wrote:
    I

    And if that is really hell, then what happens to the people that appear to die on the island?
    nice question this one..
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • cdp1223
    cdp1223 Posts: 1,131
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    Riverrunner wrote:
    I

    And if that is really hell, then what happens to the people that appear to die on the island?
    nice question this one..

    I don't think it is *actually* hell...I think they were teasing us because they know so many people have been thinking that. It is not "just an island" but it is also not, I don't think, LITERALLY hell and I don't believe that they are dead.
  • DeLukin
    DeLukin Posts: 2,757
    Maybe not hell. But maybe something like purgatory, where a soul is judged as to which place it should go. Maybe that's why everyone gets second chances on the island - to either atone for past mistakes or prove they're incapable of changing... I don't think we can discredit all the references to the survivors being dead, there's got to be some truth to that even if they aren't literally dead (yet).
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  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    Personally I agree with someone earlier that this is all a space to keep MIB from getting to the real world...
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