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  • distantsun
    distantsun Posts: 265
    so really it's all about perspective.
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  • upina2001
    upina2001 Indiana Posts: 764
    distantsun wrote:
    so really it's all about perspective.


    And if you dont have mine, THEN YOU ARE WRONG!!! :D

    Yield RULES!!!

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  • BlkFlg1
    BlkFlg1 Posts: 156
    hello Yosi, my old nemisis and friend. you are more eloquent than you give yourself credit for- I believe you nailed it about YIELD, brother.
    YIELD Fan Club Sergeant-At-Arms
  • BlkFlg1
    BlkFlg1 Posts: 156
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    Everything used to be subtle...under the radar. I miss that. Now, it's wrapped up in a nice little box and bow.

    PBM

    so true, so true.
    YIELD Fan Club Sergeant-At-Arms
  • distantsun
    distantsun Posts: 265
    upina2001 wrote:
    And if you dont have mine, THEN YOU ARE WRONG!!! :D

    Yield RULES!!!

    i didn't mean perspective in terms of preference for albums.

    i meant...the album. *it* is about perspective.
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  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    BlkFlg wrote:
    hello Yosi, my old nemisis and friend. you are more eloquent than you give yourself credit for- I believe you nailed it about YIELD, brother.

    Howdy.

    Funny that you refer to me again as nemesis. I was just rereading that old thread on the Yield board :D

    Also, I think all of you in this thread would like to know that Yield has pretty much entered into my top 3 PJ albums. Something which I wasn't sure if it would ever do. But it has certainly grown on me.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
  • distantsun
    distantsun Posts: 265
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    Everything used to be subtle...under the radar. I miss that. Now, it's wrapped up in a nice little box and bow.

    PBM

    this is so so so true. do you think it's because of the times or maybe it stems from the band getting older?
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  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    distantsun wrote:
    this is so so so true. do you think it's because of the times or maybe it stems from the band getting older?

    It's because of the times, and because they feel like they can make a difference that way (I'm not sure I agree...)

    And it's also the reason why you won't hear No Way anytime soon, my friend.
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    distantsun wrote:
    this is so so so true. do you think it's because of the times or maybe it stems from the band getting older?

    I'm not quite sure if it's because:

    1. They (i.e. Ed) want to speak out against the war, so he wants to get the message to a broader audience.

    2. Since going "free lance", they're more inclined to try various new things.

    or

    3. They have created a viable brand name and are cashing in.

    This whole situation is like that scene in Wayne's World:

    "It's like looking down on Wayne's basement, only that's not Wayne's basement"

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

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  • BlkFlg1
    BlkFlg1 Posts: 156
    distantsun wrote:
    this is so so so true. do you think it's because of the times or maybe it stems from the band getting older?

    I think it stems from Ed being undereducated and reading to much from one angle. He didn't balance any of the info he got into with an opposing view so it became emotional ideology and rehetoric. no logic. but, i do agree with alot of what he says- i just prefer metaphor and vagueness in my art.
    YIELD Fan Club Sergeant-At-Arms
  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    BlkFlg wrote:
    I think it stems from Ed being undereducated and reading to much from one angle. He didn't balance any of the info he got into with an opposing view so it became rehetoric

    Yup, it certainly seems that way sometimes.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
  • distantsun
    distantsun Posts: 265
    he's kinda like michael moore in this respect. it is a one-sided view, purposely so, to create dialogue and foster debate.

    i don't think it is a bad thing (per se) on its own. however, when it comes to thematic ideas in art, it can fall flat.

    there are no dots to connect. not on the last album anyway.
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  • BlkFlg1
    BlkFlg1 Posts: 156
    distantsun wrote:
    he's kinda like michael moore in this respect. it is a one-sided view, purposely so, to create dialogue and foster debate.

    i don't think it is a bad thing (per se) on its own. however, when it comes to thematic ideas in art, it can fall flat.

    there are no dots to connect. not on the last album anyway.

    wow, youve sure taken to this thread quickly. its almost like youve been here before. do you like YIELD then?

    How do you feel about Neil Young's Masterpiece TRANS? (notice- also capitalized!)
    YIELD Fan Club Sergeant-At-Arms
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    BlkFlg wrote:
    How do you feel about Neil Young's Masterpiece TRANS? (notice- also capitalized!)

    Awesome.

    This thread is on the upswing.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

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  • likepilateihaveadog
    likepilateihaveadog Posts: 1,083
    distantsun wrote:
    he's kinda like michael moore in this respect. it is a one-sided view, purposely so, to create dialogue and foster debate.

    i don't think it is a bad thing (per se) on its own. however, when it comes to thematic ideas in art, it can fall flat.

    there are no dots to connect. not on the last album anyway.
    Didn't he say something about this on the Storytellers thing?
    About wanting to get it out there and have it be clear and obvious and get people going?
    Maybe it was somewhere else, but I think the Moore comparison is pretty good.
    Teamwork. Rawk. Pwnage. Infinite Possibilities. YIELD. Hells yeah.
  • glasshouse
    glasshouse Posts: 1,762
    is Pilate related to the Bible character by any means?

    i know (i think) pilate is jeff's dog name, but surely their must be more to this?

    i don't know, maybe you yieldfreaks can help me out with this one
    Athens, Greece: 2006/09/30

    "Call me Ishmael. Some years ago- never mind how long precisely- having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world." Herman Melville : Moby Dick
  • likepilateihaveadog
    likepilateihaveadog Posts: 1,083
    glasshouse wrote:
    is Pilate related to the Bible character by any means?

    i know (i think) pilate is jeff's dog name, but surely their must be more to this?

    i don't know, maybe you yieldfreaks can help me out with this one
    Do we have this archived somewhere?
    ;)

    Yes, it refers to Mihkail Bulgakov's The Master and Margarita, a novel about a character referred to as The Master, writing a book about Pontius Pilate.

    Pilate has a dog in the book named Banga and the dog is his only solace from the torture imposed on him by sentencing Jesus to death. So when Ed sings "like Pilate, I have a dog" he means that there's one thing he has that keeps him going, even in the face of misery and doom.

    That's the short answer, at least.
    Teamwork. Rawk. Pwnage. Infinite Possibilities. YIELD. Hells yeah.
  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    BlkFlg wrote:
    I think it stems from Ed being undereducated and reading to much from one angle. He didn't balance any of the info he got into with an opposing view so it became emotional ideology and rehetoric. no logic. but, i do agree with alot of what he says- i just prefer metaphor and vagueness in my art.

    I wholeheartedly agree with this. It is remarkable how much the guy can annoy me when he talks politics lately, given that I agree with him on the substance of the issues.

    "Tell the captain this boat's not save we are drowning, turns out he's the one making waves": beautiful.

    "Fuck Bush": meh.
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    distantsun wrote:
    he's kinda like michael moore in this respect. it is a one-sided view, purposely so, to create dialogue and foster debate.

    That's exactly the same analogy that came to my mind. We must be hanging out around the same places. I think some of their stances stifle debate, though.
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    BlkFlg wrote:
    wow, youve sure taken to this thread quickly. its almost like youve been here before. do you like YIELD then?

    Can she help that her destinations...
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.

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