Yield

YieldInHiding · July 2007

likepilateihaveadog wrote:

Couldn't think of a better song to try on the Mormons.

So...do we think songs were developed lyrically around these two? And if so, which ones in particular.

With the great balance in songwriting, and we know Mike wrote those three at home in the blizzard, right, I find this theory a bit of a stretch.

He still had the other songs to base the sound off of since he just wrote the music for those songs.

likepilateihaveadog · July 2007

YIH, you're right...Mike only wrote the music.
Ed filled in the words later...so maybe on a lyrical basis this makes sense, and you know they teak the sounds recording as a band and in editing, so maybe this does make some sense.

distantsun · July 2007

i don't know if i agree with this at all.

likepilateihaveadog · July 2007

distantsun wrote:

i don't know if i agree with this at all.

You have to explain yourself a little better than that

YieldInHiding · July 2007

likepilateihaveadog wrote:

You have to explain yourself a little better than that

Yeah that's like saying YIELD is NOT a masterpiece and just leaving.

likepilateihaveadog · July 2007

YieldInHiding wrote:

Yeah that's like saying YIELD is NOT a masterpiece and just leaving.

haha, exactly.

We don't mess around here. We may be vague at times, but when we say something, we back it up.

I think.

PissBottleMan · July 2007

distantsun wrote:

i don't know if i agree with this at all.

When you sit back and look over the whole catalogue that Pearl Jam has to offer, it is the one piece of work that encompasses everything:

Lyrically, musically and conceptually.

It examines (if I may borrow from DBT) the duality in life...both the optimist and pessimist.

"There's a warning sign on the road ahead...". You're God-Damn right...it's a YIELD-sign. Slow-down and take stock in what the hell is going on in the world.

YIELD is not just a collection of songs...it's a piece of art...of what is appealing, disturbing, beautiful, distressing and captivating in this world.

YIELD challenges me constantly...it forces me to consider different points of views.

Of course, Pearl Jam can't take all the credit for this...the many authors that inspired the album contributed as well.

This is why many of us devote our time and lengthly conversations to this wonderful work of art.

PBM

likepilateihaveadog · July 2007

PissBottleMan wrote:

When you sit back and look over the whole catalogue that Pearl Jam has to offer, it is the one piece of work that encompasses everything:

Lyrically, musically and conceptually.

It examines (if I may borrow from DBT) the duality in life...both the optimist and pessimist.

"There's a warning sign on the road ahead...". You're God-Damn right...it's a YIELD-sign. Slow-down and take stock in what the hell is going on in the world.

YIELD is not just a collection of songs...it's a piece of art...of what is appealing, disturbing, beautiful, distressing and captivating in this world.

YIELD challenges me constantly...it forces me to consider different points of views.

Of course, Pearl Jam can't take all the credit for this...the many authors that inspired the album contributed as well.

This is why many of us devote our time and lengthly conversations to this wonderful work of art.

PBM

I concur.

distantsun · July 2007

when i said that "i don't know if i agree with this at all", it was not about the general premise. it was something specific and i don't even remember what it was about anymore. friday was a long time ago.

sorry for the confusion.

PissBottleMan · July 2007

distantsun wrote:

when i said that "i don't know if i agree with this at all", it was not about the general premise. it was something specific and i don't even remember what it was about anymore. friday was a long time ago.

sorry for the confusion.

Hmmm...well, at least I got to take the discussion to a meaningful place...I just wish I could have worked in a Ted Nugent reference somewhere.

PBM

likepilateihaveadog · July 2007

PissBottleMan wrote:

Hmmm...well, at least I got to take the discussion to a meaningful place...I just wish I could have worked in a Ted Nugent reference somewhere.

PBM

Well, if you want to discuss the duality of the Nuge as both a creator and a destroyer, that'd be interesting. Great White Buffalo, now there's an amazing musical creation.
The dinner table, there's some destruction.

Llamas anyone?

The point here was about the evolution of YIELD songs...were the later songs spurred on by the sound and lyrics of Brain of J and MFC, which debuted on the road in 95 and 96?
The consensus was, to an extent, but not entirely since Mike and Jeff and Stone were all writing riffs outside on their own and then brought them in for Ed's lyrics. So, there's a nice balance in that too.

PissBottleMan · July 2007

likepilateihaveadog wrote:

The point here was about the evolution of YIELD songs...were the later songs spurred on by the sound and lyrics of Brain of J and MFC, which debuted on the road in 95 and 96?
The consensus was, to an extent, but not entirely since Mike and Jeff and Stone were all writing riffs outside on their own and then brought them in for Ed's lyrics. So, there's a nice balance in that too.

I'm basing this on 100% "talking out my ass", but I would think that those early songs were a foundation....and like any polished product...they were finely tuned "over some course of time..."

PBM

distantsun · July 2007

you can try now and i will act surprised.

distantsun · July 2007

sorry. that posted twice.

BlkFlg1 · July 2007

distantsun wrote:

sorry. that posted twice.

you have alot to learn about posting. alot to learn about YIELD as well.

welcome, distant sun.

also- nugent's eating/hunting practices are very YIELD. discuss.

love to all-

S-A-A

BlkFlg1 · July 2007

PissBottleMan wrote:

I'm basing this on 100% "talking out my ass", but I would think that those early songs were a foundation....and like any polished product...they were finely tuned "over some course of time..."

PBM

i could agree with this, but for the sake of courtly discourse, I shall disagree. all things are contextual, so without the album making process, the other songs, SVT, and the formative period after No Code I cannot see the songs having the same relevance. also, it begs the question on which songs are central to YIELD. My opinion is that G2F and Wishlist make the album more than BoJ and MFC. In another context, those songs could be vastly different.

eclectic · July 2007

YieldInHiding wrote:

Minneapolis 6-30-98 had 9 songs if you include Leatherman.

Brain of J
Faithfull
Pilate
MFC
Wishlist
All Those Yesterdays
Do the Evolution
Given to Fly
Leatherman

Atlanta 9-1-98 had quite a few as well

Given to Fly
Do the Evolution
Wishlist
In Hiding
MFC
Brain of J
No Way
ATY as a tag to Daughter

Thanks a lot for that info.A show with 9 and another with 8,and neither had Lowlight........makes me feel slightly more privaleged than I did before!Especially allowing I have only been to 3 shows!

1STmammal2wearPants · July 2007

They should bust out No Way and All Those Yesterdays at Lollapalooza. Not only are they great songs, but a showcase of the awesome songwriter that Stone is. And not only that, they haven't been played in an uber-long time! Especially No Way.

likepilateihaveadog · July 2007

1STmammal2wearPants wrote:

They should bust out No Way and All Those Yesterdays at Lollapalooza. Not only are they great songs, but a showcase of the awesome songwriter that Stone is. And not only that, they haven't been played in an uber-long time! Especially No Way.

Why don't you send 'em a postcard.

mnjamfan · July 2007

Seeing faithful live at Wembley really rekindled my love for Yield, now I can't quit again

Yield

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