Kucinich 08!!!

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  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    WindNoSail wrote:
    It is hard to believe I am saying this, but the mess in Iraq after we leave will still be Bush's fault. Any soldier who dies now is just a number to be added to the list in the name of covering up the mistakes made by the administration. I don't fully blame the President for us going in, lots of people are part of this misguided war, but at the end of the day, it was his decision, his call, and in his own words he is accountable. It sucks, but that is reality.

    The question is how many more Americans will die in the name of trying to produce 'victory' before the reality comes home. The sooner the better I say, cause our current path will not produce victory.

    And yes, there will be bloodshed, it will be really bad, but it will always be Bush's fault cause he can't fix what he broke.

    nice...very profound.

    so i'm guessing that's your way of saying you really don't give a shit about humanity, and more importantly, the here and now.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    El_Kabong wrote:
    ppl voted the republicans out b/c they wanted a change in the war...

    let's stop it right there...

    are you honestly saying that the dems won control because of left-wing views? don't you remember grandma pelosi and dingy harry going into hiding during the campaign? and when people like me pointed this out, people here (not you ) said it didn't matter...just opposing the admin. was the important thing.

    lots of people wnated a change..including me...and lots of other right wing whackos...we wanted to take the restrictions off the troops and fight to win, not to fight a political PC war.

    ppl voted the republicans out b/c they suck when it comes to immigration and spending...and they wanted a change in the war....but to make the jump to say that 2/3rds want us to pull out is just another leap, and just another instance of the left not understanding simple principles of logic.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    let's stop it right there...

    are you honestly saying that the dems won control because of left-wing views? don't you remember grandma pelosi and dingy harry going into hiding during the campaign? and when people like me pointed this out, people here (not you ) said it didn't matter...just opposing the admin. was the important thing.

    lots of people wnated a change..including me...and lots of other right wing whackos...we wanted to take the restrictions off the troops and fight to win, not to fight a political PC war.

    ppl voted the republicans out b/c they suck when it comes to immigration and spending...and they wanted a change in the war....but to make the jump to say that 2/3rds want us to pull out is just another leap, and just another instance of the left not understanding simple principles of logic.

    How do you know what people want? Polls? Polls are showing the war was a mistake and that people don't approve of deploying more troops last I checked.

    http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14266-2004Dec20.html
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    let's stop it right there...

    are you honestly saying that the dems won control because of left-wing views? don't you remember grandma pelosi and dingy harry going into hiding during the campaign? and when people like me pointed this out, people here (not you ) said it didn't matter...just opposing the admin. was the important thing.

    lots of people wnated a change..including me...and lots of other right wing whackos...we wanted to take the restrictions off the troops and fight to win, not to fight a political PC war.

    ppl voted the republicans out b/c they suck when it comes to immigration and spending...and they wanted a change in the war....but to make the jump to say that 2/3rds want us to pull out is just another leap, and just another instance of the left not understanding simple principles of logic.


    not understanding the principles of logic or not having basic word comprehension?

    how does 'change' = 'withdrawl'???

    what the polls say the ppl want is 2/3 DON'T want any more troops sent, MORE than 2/3 don't want anymore funding for new troops, over 1/2 think iraq is a hopeless situation, just under 2/3 want a timetable for withdrawl....

    what's funniest, tho is the poll on what the us should do, btw, higher numbers mean more

    increase number of troops - 26%
    keep the same number - 17%
    decrease -23%
    remove all - 28%
    unsure - 6%

    regardless of withdrawl or no withdrawl, ppl wanted change, the polls show they see it as a disaster AND they don't want to give it more money AND they don't want to give it more troops....well, what the fuck did this congress do? give bush more money and more troops
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    If anyone here is interested in volunteering, sign up here:

    http://dk2008.us/


    This is really good..

    http://dk2008.us/endthewar
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    1. any politician with a bust of Gandhi in his office is ahead of the pack

    2. any politician that uses a peace symbol in his 2008 propaganda is ahead of the pack

    3. any politician that "abook" supports is WAY ahead of the pack

    4. his wife is an absolute knock-out red head! wow! :p
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    my2hands wrote:
    1. any politician with a bust of Gandhi in his office is ahead of the pack

    2. any politician that uses a peace symbol in his 2008 propaganda is ahead of the pack

    3. any politician that "abook" supports is WAY ahead of the pack

    4. his wife is an absolute knock-out red head! wow! :p


    Isn't she beautiful? I think I have a crush. :p
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Isn't she beautiful? I think I have a crush. :p


    smacks self for bad-bad thoughts :p

    lmao!

    she is a show stopper, but not as attractive as some progressive women i know ;) (dont hit me kabong, just being honest :))
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    my2hands wrote:
    smacks self for bad-bad thoughts :p

    lmao!

    she is a show stopper, but not as attractive as some progressive women i know ;) (dont hit me kabong, just being honest :))

    :o You're sweet and also making me blush. :)


    Now get your mind outta the gutter! :p
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    The only thing that will prove Kucinich is unelectable is if he isn't elected. If you want him to win, campaign for him, donate money to him, spread the word. Hell, if he makes it to the general, I'll vote for him.

    Electable? We don't know yet. In 2008, we'll have our answer.

    And he's married now? Hate to say it, but that'll help.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    RainDog wrote:
    The only thing that will prove Kucinich is unelectable is if he isn't elected. If you want him to win, campaign for him, donate money to him, spread the word. Hell, if he makes it to the general, I'll vote for him.

    Electable? We don't know yet. In 2008, we'll have our answer.

    And he's married now? Hate to say it, but that'll help.

    I'm doing my best! And yep, he's now married. Check out the clip I posted of Elizabeth Kucinich on the last page.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    :o You're sweet and also making me blush. :)


    Now get your mind outta the gutter! :p


    sometimes you can find amazing things in the gutter ;)

    but yeah, back on topic, she, i mean he, has my vote! haha :D
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY-z8MC0UAw
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    El_Kabong wrote:
    so what was the part that made him unelectable? he is short? he is a vegan? wtf???

    he seems to be one of the veeeeery few politicians that isn't the usual crook/boldfaced liar...

    the fact that he is real and honest is what makes him unelectable in this country.
    I'll dig a tunnel
    from my window to yours
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    my2hands wrote:
    smacks self for bad-bad thoughts :p

    lmao!

    she is a show stopper, but not as attractive as some progressive women i know ;) (dont hit me kabong, just being honest :))


    and she knows the secret!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcrLPne1V3A
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    El_Kabong wrote:
    he makes an awful lot of sense...how can you say you don't support the war but then vote to fund it?? how can you do this while you cut benefits for the poor?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO9zk_iG1RY&eurl=

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3e3zbOCJoo&eurl=

    I just love this man!
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Funny thing about this board. I mentioned Kucinich early in '04 as somebody I could possibly vote for and the idea was effectively banned by general consensus. In a real shitty way, too. You think the remarks are bad now, imagine the remarks back then.
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    gue_barium wrote:
    Funny thing about this board. I mentioned Kucinich early in '04 as somebody I could possibly vote for and the idea was effectively banned by general consensus. In a real shitty way, too. You think the remarks are bad now, imagine the remarks back then.

    I know. All I can say is....don't let the media tell you who is a contender. We are the people that will be doing the voting. Let me decide who is worth my vote.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    I know. All I can say is....don't let the media tell you who is a contender. We are the people that will be doing the voting. Let me decide who is worth my vote.

    I don't let anyone tell me much of anything.
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    gue_barium wrote:
    I don't let anyone tell me much of anything.

    Me either. :p
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde

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