The only thing that will prove Kucinich is unelectable is if he isn't elected. If you want him to win, campaign for him, donate money to him, spread the word. Hell, if he makes it to the general, I'll vote for him.
Electable? We don't know yet. In 2008, we'll have our answer.
And he's married now? Hate to say it, but that'll help.
I'm doing my best! And yep, he's now married. Check out the clip I posted of Elizabeth Kucinich on the last page.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
he makes an awful lot of sense...how can you say you don't support the war but then vote to fund it?? how can you do this while you cut benefits for the poor?
Funny thing about this board. I mentioned Kucinich early in '04 as somebody I could possibly vote for and the idea was effectively banned by general consensus. In a real shitty way, too. You think the remarks are bad now, imagine the remarks back then.
Funny thing about this board. I mentioned Kucinich early in '04 as somebody I could possibly vote for and the idea was effectively banned by general consensus. In a real shitty way, too. You think the remarks are bad now, imagine the remarks back then.
I know. All I can say is....don't let the media tell you who is a contender. We are the people that will be doing the voting. Let me decide who is worth my vote.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I know. All I can say is....don't let the media tell you who is a contender. We are the people that will be doing the voting. Let me decide who is worth my vote.
Hehe..."Are you against the use of force in all instances?" What a stupid question to ask someone like Kucinich.
I imagine everyone is pro defending ourselves. I'm glad they asked that question because I'm sure many would worry about our security if he were elected. He's saying if we're actually attacked by another country he's pro defense but he's anti offensively starting wars when there is no threat.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I imagine everyone is pro defending ourselves. I'm glad they asked that question because I'm sure many would worry about our security if he were elected. He's saying if we're actually attacked by another country he's pro defense but he's anti offensively starting wars when there is no threat.
Odd that someone who's "anti-offensive" is going to force me to do so many things when I pose absolutely no threat to him.
That, yes. He'll also sign my name to all sorts of treaties against my will. He'll eliminate my abilities to do business overseas. He'll likely further force my hand in my decisions and negotiations with my employees.
Great, then find you a anti tax candidate.
Why? So I can force you to not pay taxes? No thanks.
That, yes. He'll also sign my name to all sorts of treaties against my will. He'll eliminate my abilities to do business overseas. He'll likely further force my hand in my decisions and negotiations with my employees.
Why? So I can force you to not pay taxes? No thanks.
Well, I see our country as united and connected to one another. Decisions are made by govt with the people's best interest in mind, in theory. That's what I see in Kucinch. These decisions may not be everyone's cup of tea but hopefully they'll represent the majority instead of special interests. That's the how democracy works.
I know you don't want the govt telling you what to do. We've been over it.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Well, I see our country as united and connected to one another. Decisions are made by govt with the people's best interest in mind, in theory. That's what I see in Kucinch. These decisions may not be everyone's cup of tea but hopefully they'll represent the majority instead of special interests. That's the how democracy works.
So let me get this straight...in the event that 50% of 45% of this nation decides that Dennis Kucinich is in their best interest, they represent the "majority" instead of special interests? Furthermore, since Kucinich is likely to only get about 10-15% of the votes in the total primary, will you then retract your statements about Kucinich being in the people's best interest since he will be largely rejected by those people?
I know you don't want the govt telling you what to do. We've been over it.
And we've been over the fact that you do want the govt telling you what to do. Since we can't agree, seems the best solution would be to live and let live. Are you up for that, or not?
So let me get this straight...in the event that 50% of 45% of this nation decides that Dennis Kucinich is in their best interest, they represent the "majority" instead of special interests? Furthermore, since Kucinich is likely to only get about 10-15% of the votes in the total primary, will you then retract your statements about Kucinich being in the people's best interest since he will be largely rejected by those people?
And we've been over the fact that you do want the govt telling you what to do. Since we can't agree, seems the best solution would be to live and let live. Are you up for that, or not?
It's not my fault they didn't vote.
I'm more hopeful than that. And I think he does represent what the majority wants but money and exposure are also big factors that may weigh against him getting his message out to the masses.
I haven't hung up the towel on this democracy just yet. I can agree to disagree....which is where we almost always end up.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I'm more hopeful than that. And I think he does represent what the majority wants but money and exposure are also big factors that may weigh against him getting his message out to the masses.
Yep.
I haven't hung up the towel on this democracy just yet. I can agree to disagree....which is where we almost always end up.
I'm not asking you to hang up the towel on this democracy. I'm simply asking you not to hang me up with it.
I don't hang your ideas and thoughts shared here up either. I take them in and consider them with each reply. It may seem that I simply reject much of what you say but that of course goes both ways. You certainly have caused me to think more than a lot of the stuff posted here has.
You wouldn't be asking me to stop being a socialist, would you? Because you are part of society and I view you as such.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I'm more hopeful than that. And I think he does represent what the majority wants but money and exposure are also big factors that may weigh against him getting his message out to the masses.
I haven't hung up the towel on this democracy just yet. I can agree to disagree....which is where we almost always end up.
There are two things at work here. The majority can never assume to be represented in a primary or general election. Why not? Because the majority does not vote. Even if you take out those not capable of voting, a majority of the legal voting public does not vote. And, secondly, Americans are set in their ways of voting for rep. or dem. and will not change. I don't care if Kucinich runs on a dem. ticket; Americans will not not view him as such. He will always, in the minds of the public, be a fringe candidate.
There are two things at work here. The majority can never assume to be represented in a primary or general election. Why not? Because the majority does not vote. Even if you take out those not capable of voting, a majority of the legal voting public does not vote. And, secondly, Americans are set in their ways of voting for rep. or dem. and will not change. I don't care if Kucinich runs on a dem. ticket; Americans will not not view him as such. He will always, in the minds of the public, be a fringe candidate.
I prefer not to be an eternal pessimist and I choose to think positively. Even if things never go my way, I'm holding on to hope.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
You wouldn't be asking me to stop being a socialist, would you?
Of course not!!! Nothing I would ever propose would prevent you from being a socialist. Rather, everything I propose supports your fundamental right to be one. Similarly, it supports my right not to be one.
Of course not!!! Nothing I would ever propose would prevent you from being a socialist. Rather, everything I propose supports your fundamental right to be one. Similarly, it supports my right not to be one.
You left out the last part. Me being socialist includes you as part of society. You asked me not to include you but you are well aware of how socialism includes you.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
You left out the last part. Me being socialist includes you as part of society. You asked me not to include you but you are well aware of how socialism includes you.
Hehe....that's the contradiction abook.
If your socialism includes me against my will, then no I do not sanction any right for you to do that. If you sanction that right for yourself, then you give permission to everyone who has ever expropriated your labor, your talents, your abilities, your dreams and your mind for their goals and aims.
Your being a socialist does not give you a lease on my mind or body, just like my being a capitalist does not give me a lease on your mind or body.
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I'm doing my best! And yep, he's now married. Check out the clip I posted of Elizabeth Kucinich on the last page.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
sometimes you can find amazing things in the gutter
but yeah, back on topic, she, i mean he, has my vote! haha
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
the fact that he is real and honest is what makes him unelectable in this country.
from my window to yours
and she knows the secret!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcrLPne1V3A
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
I just love this man!
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
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I know. All I can say is....don't let the media tell you who is a contender. We are the people that will be doing the voting. Let me decide who is worth my vote.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I don't let anyone tell me much of anything.
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Me either.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I love Bush.
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I love Dick. lol
Strange how that works out.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
we need help.
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I agree.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Hehe..."Are you against the use of force in all instances?" What a stupid question to ask someone like Kucinich.
I imagine everyone is pro defending ourselves. I'm glad they asked that question because I'm sure many would worry about our security if he were elected. He's saying if we're actually attacked by another country he's pro defense but he's anti offensively starting wars when there is no threat.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Odd that someone who's "anti-offensive" is going to force me to do so many things when I pose absolutely no threat to him.
What pay taxes? Great, then find you a anti tax candidate.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
That, yes. He'll also sign my name to all sorts of treaties against my will. He'll eliminate my abilities to do business overseas. He'll likely further force my hand in my decisions and negotiations with my employees.
Why? So I can force you to not pay taxes? No thanks.
Well, I see our country as united and connected to one another. Decisions are made by govt with the people's best interest in mind, in theory. That's what I see in Kucinch. These decisions may not be everyone's cup of tea but hopefully they'll represent the majority instead of special interests. That's the how democracy works.
I know you don't want the govt telling you what to do. We've been over it.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
So let me get this straight...in the event that 50% of 45% of this nation decides that Dennis Kucinich is in their best interest, they represent the "majority" instead of special interests? Furthermore, since Kucinich is likely to only get about 10-15% of the votes in the total primary, will you then retract your statements about Kucinich being in the people's best interest since he will be largely rejected by those people?
And we've been over the fact that you do want the govt telling you what to do. Since we can't agree, seems the best solution would be to live and let live. Are you up for that, or not?
It's not my fault they didn't vote.
I'm more hopeful than that. And I think he does represent what the majority wants but money and exposure are also big factors that may weigh against him getting his message out to the masses.
I haven't hung up the towel on this democracy just yet. I can agree to disagree....which is where we almost always end up.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
No, it's not.
Yep.
I'm not asking you to hang up the towel on this democracy. I'm simply asking you not to hang me up with it.
I don't hang your ideas and thoughts shared here up either. I take them in and consider them with each reply. It may seem that I simply reject much of what you say but that of course goes both ways. You certainly have caused me to think more than a lot of the stuff posted here has.
You wouldn't be asking me to stop being a socialist, would you? Because you are part of society and I view you as such.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
There are two things at work here. The majority can never assume to be represented in a primary or general election. Why not? Because the majority does not vote. Even if you take out those not capable of voting, a majority of the legal voting public does not vote. And, secondly, Americans are set in their ways of voting for rep. or dem. and will not change. I don't care if Kucinich runs on a dem. ticket; Americans will not not view him as such. He will always, in the minds of the public, be a fringe candidate.
from my window to yours
I prefer not to be an eternal pessimist and I choose to think positively. Even if things never go my way, I'm holding on to hope.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Of course not!!! Nothing I would ever propose would prevent you from being a socialist. Rather, everything I propose supports your fundamental right to be one. Similarly, it supports my right not to be one.
You left out the last part. Me being socialist includes you as part of society. You asked me not to include you but you are well aware of how socialism includes you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Hehe....that's the contradiction abook.
If your socialism includes me against my will, then no I do not sanction any right for you to do that. If you sanction that right for yourself, then you give permission to everyone who has ever expropriated your labor, your talents, your abilities, your dreams and your mind for their goals and aims.
Your being a socialist does not give you a lease on my mind or body, just like my being a capitalist does not give me a lease on your mind or body.