Kucinich 08!!!

Abookamongstthemany

Against the war then and still against it now! Could we please have serious discussion/comments and not a bunch of the usual crap?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThIi_7C7K6I&eurl=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGUmZyzUMcs&eurl=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwUUxSi9evs&eurl=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxqbFkNf7GM&eurl=

http://kucinich.us/

Great typo in the title...:p

miller8966

no way. He looks like he couldnt even catch a baseball. Can you imagine how bad Putin would make him look in a stare down.

He looks like a weasel.

Abookamongstthemany

miller8966 wrote:

no way. He looks like he couldnt even catch a baseball. Can you imagine how bad Putin would make him look in a stare down.

He looks like a weasel.

Serious discussion, please.

miller8966

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Serious discussion, please.

No honestly im being serious. If you dont think personal appearance is an issue watch nixon/kennedy.

Commy

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Against the war then and still against it now! Could we please have serious discussion/comments and not a bunch of the usual crap?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThIi_7C7K6I&eurl=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGUmZyzUMcs&eurl=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwUUxSi9evs&eurl=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxqbFkNf7GM&eurl=

http://kucinich.us/

Great typo in the title...:p

I like what he stands for, but he lacks charisma, which is important in leading a nation. I think he'd make a great vp or advisor, i just don't see him as pres...

trappedinmyradio

The knock on Kucinich is his personality. I hope that Kucinich can get a good swell going behind him in this election season in hopes that the democratic base will shift a little to the left. Right now, both doors have golden knobs, and that bothers me.

People have said that they hope Nader doesn't run and they hope Kucinich doesn't run...because they will take votes away from the democratic candidate. Well, I have some news...the two-party system yields results that are not significantly different. So, I say, we chip away at the system.

I plan on familiarizing myself with Mr. Kucinich again and finding out where he stands now on other issues. I am glad he was and is against the war, but that is a lightning rod issue.

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Against the war then and still against it now! Could we please have serious discussion/comments and not a bunch of the usual crap?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThIi_7C7K6I&eurl=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGUmZyzUMcs&eurl=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwUUxSi9evs&eurl=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxqbFkNf7GM&eurl=

http://kucinich.us/

Great typo in the title...:p

trappedinmyradio

miller8966 wrote:

No honestly im being serious. If you dont think personal appearance is an issue watch nixon/kennedy.

Sure, but catching a baseball has nothing to do with that.

Abookamongstthemany

Commy wrote:

I like what he stands for, but he lacks charisma, which is important in leading a nation. I think he'd make a great vp or advisor, i just don't see him as pres...

Really? I've always thought he shows a lot of charisma! He seems passionate but you can see the frustration all over his face. To me, you can see how much he really cares and isn't just bullshitting.

And hey, he has even made appearances at Ani shows!! So he has good taste in music and isn't afraid to get out there with the young people.

Abookamongstthemany

trappedinmyradio wrote:

The knock on Kucinich is his personality. I hope that Kucinich can get a good swell going behind him in this election season in hopes that the democratic base will shift a little to the left. Right now, both doors have golden knobs, and that bothers me.

People have said that they hope Nader doesn't run and they hope Kucinich doesn't run...because they will take votes away from the democratic candidate. Well, I have some news...the two-party system yields results that are not significantly different. So, I say, we chip away at the system.

I plan on familiarizing myself with Mr. Kucinich again and finding out where he stands now on other issues. I am glad he was and is against the war, but that is a lightning rod issue.

Exactly!!! Don't complain about how things are and then tell people who are actually running on changing things to go away! That makes absolutely NO sense! If we keep voting for these same crooks, we're gonna keep geeting the same crimes.

slightofjeff

Willie Nelson has been backing this guy since about '00, fwiw. Add him to the list of pseudo-celebrity endorsements.

not my cup o' tea, however.

kenny olav

i agree mostly with his politics, but he's really a weird dude. i'm talking about personality here, not the way he looks. he strikes me as a cult leader at times. not all the time, but when he gets worked up.

i feel kinda the same way about Hillary Clinton. she creeps me out. although i guess she has a chance... especially since the Republican field doesn't look strong. McCain is a loose cannon with a massively unpopular stance on the war. Guiliani is pro-choice and would alienate the Repubican base, potentially spurning a third party conservative movement. even if Mitt Romney wasn't a major doofus, he's still a Mormon - no chance.

right now, the best of the Dems in my opinion are Barack Obama and Tom Vilsack. only their names are weird.

slightofjeff

Kenny Olav wrote:

i agree mostly with his politics, but he's really a weird dude. i'm talking about personality here, not the way he looks. he strikes me as a cult leader at times. not all the time, but when he gets worked up.

i feel kinda the same way about Hillary Clinton. she creeps me out. although i guess she has a chance... especially since the Republican field doesn't look strong. McCain is a loose cannon with a massively unpopular stance on the war. Guiliani is pro-choice and would alienate the Repubican base, potentially spurning a third party conservative movement. even if Mitt Romney wasn't a major doofus, he's still a Mormon - no chance.

right now, the best of the Dems in my opinion are Barack Obama and Tom Vilsack. only their names are weird.

It's a strange election cycle in that I couldn't envision any of the major candidates from any party actually winning the thing.

I guess that will start to shake out in the months to come.

Rushlimbo

miller8966 wrote:

no way. He looks like he couldnt even catch a baseball. Can you imagine how bad Putin would make him look in a stare down.

He looks like a weasel.

McCain looks like Frankenstein.

Abookamongstthemany

Kenny Olav wrote:

i agree mostly with his politics, but he's really a weird dude. i'm talking about personality here, not the way he looks. he strikes me as a cult leader at times. not all the time, but when he gets worked up.

i feel kinda the same way about Hillary Clinton. she creeps me out. although i guess she has a chance... especially since the Republican field doesn't look strong. McCain is a loose cannon with a massively unpopular stance on the war. Guiliani is pro-choice and would alienate the Repubican base, potentially spurning a third party conservative movement. even if Mitt Romney wasn't a major doofus, he's still a Mormon - no chance.

right now, the best of the Dems in my opinion are Barack Obama and Tom Vilsack. only their names are weird.

What has he said or done that is so weird? If by weird you mean, be a Dem who actually puts himself on the line and votes against spending for the war then yeah, I see what you mean. I think he is strong candidate and is nothing but consistant on his stances. He's nothing like the likes of Kerry who was too afraid to actually stand up for anything and only worried about appeasing swing voters. He doesn't do the usual Dem double speak where they say one thing and do the exact opposite. It's quite refreshing and hopeful, IMO.

soulsinging

dennis kucinish vs. sam brownback

seriously, how much fun would that election be?

ThumbingMyWay32

soulsinging wrote:

dennis kucinish vs. sam brownback

seriously, how much fun would that election be?

Lets make it a fatal four-way.

I'd like to add Ted Kennedy and Rev. Al Sharpton.

soulsinging

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

Lets make it a fatal four-way.

I'd like to add Ted Kennedy and Rev. Al Sharpton.

nah, the point is to get ideological opposites. sharpton and kennedy are both staunchly left with kucinich. i like the idea of the stoned out hippy sqaring off with the religious zealot. if you want to add more, it'd have to be like sharpton and hannity or something.

i honestly can't imagine what a debate between kucinich and brownback would be like... they're like from two different universes.

musicismylife78

The democrats nominate in 2008 a person who is real, genuine and speaks from his heart?

THe democrats in 2008 nominate someone who voted against Iraq from the start and has been continually calling for withdrawal for years?

The democrats in 2008 nominate someone who think peace, justice, and equality is a platform to run on, and to promote?

Nah, they will nominate the same milquetoast boring wooden jerks they always do, like Kerry and Gore.

The Democrats think that the U.S. is conservative. Why would they nominate Kucinich?

What blows my mind is the lack of attention he gets. Instead of falling in love with Obama like all Dems seem to be doing, they should be planning to support a person in 2008 who will bring the troops home. Obama wont do it, Kerry wont, gore wont, Clinton wont, Biden wont


THE ONLY PERSON who will bring the troops home in my mind, that is running for president in 2008 on the Dem platform is Kucinich. He is the only democrat running an explicitly propeace, anti war candidacy.

Its a shame when the opposition party is running the same type platform as the Republicans. Kucinich should stand out, partly because he genuinely does stand out, a peacenik in a prowar party

Gary Carter

soulsinging wrote:

dennis kucinish vs. sam brownback

seriously, how much fun would that election be?

id move to canada

ThumbingMyWay32

soulsinging wrote:

nah, the point is to get ideological opposites. sharpton and kennedy are both staunchly left with kucinich. i like the idea of the stoned out hippy sqaring off with the religious zealot. if you want to add more, it'd have to be like sharpton and hannity or something.

i honestly can't imagine what a debate between kucinich and brownback would be like... they're like from two different universes.

I'm willing to bet after a few stiff ones no one's really on the same page with Teddy. I'm actually waiting to see something involving Biden.

Abookamongstthemany

Cheguevara6 wrote:

The democrats nominate in 2008 a person who is real, genuine and speaks from his heart?

THe democrats in 2008 nominate someone who voted against Iraq from the start and has been continually calling for withdrawal for years?

The democrats in 2008 nominate someone who think peace, justice, and equality is a platform to run on, and to promote?

Nah, they will nominate the same milquetoast boring wooden jerks they always do, like Kerry and Gore.

The Democrats think that the U.S. is conservative. Why would they nominate Kucinich?

What blows my mind is the lack of attention he gets. Instead of falling in love with Obama like all Dems seem to be doing, they should be planning to support a person in 2008 who will bring the troops home. Obama wont do it, Kerry wont, gore wont, Clinton wont, Biden wont


THE ONLY PERSON who will bring the troops home in my mind, that is running for president in 2008 on the Dem platform is Kucinich. He is the only democrat running an explicitly propeace, anti war candidacy.

Its a shame when the opposition party is running the same type platform as the Republicans. Kucinich should stand out, partly because he genuinely does stand out, a peacenik in a prowar party

Great post! The Dems beat themselves because they believe the only way to win is to mimic their opponent. They don't believe in themselves or their causes enough to stand up for them. They think they need to conform to suceed and they couldn't be more wrong. I'm going to stand up for what I believe in because it's what's in my heart, it's what I know to be true.....I'm not going to say or do anything because I think it's what everyone else wants to hear or what I think may be popular at the time. Be true to yourself and the rest will follow.