Police taser student at John Kerry Q&A

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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    “An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260
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    “Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self- defense.” (State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
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    BetterThanYou wrote:
    you do remember that a senator and someone that ran for the presidency was speaking, right? should they carry spitwads instead of weapons?

    And point guns at peoples heads for asking questions thy don't like?

    yeah....right...screw head #2 pointed a gun point blank at his head in under 10 seconds...insane... America is fucked

    have some more kool-aid
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  • gue_barium
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    “One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
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    For those who haven't seen the full footage. They could have just let him go

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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
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    gue_barium wrote:
    “One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).

    probably wouldnt stop you from getting your skull crushed though
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    MrSmith wrote:
    probably wouldnt stop you from getting your skull crushed though

    Maybe, maybe not. It's good to know your rights though, eh?
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  • BetterThanYou
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    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    And point guns at peoples heads for asking questions thy don't like?

    yeah....right...screw head #2 pointed a gun point blank at his head in under 10 seconds...insane... America is fucked

    have some more kool-aid

    oh, go fuck yourself with the parroting of the kool-aid statement. here's what you said:

    "...armed policemen stationed a few feet from the microphone is bloody fascism right there.

    Man I tell ya people are getting blind these days. Conditioned to not noticing or questioning the blatantly obvious."

    you said nothing about how quickly a gun was pointed at anyone. you pick and choose what you don't like and run with it. it's not fascism, and nobody is blind. armed policemen were there for protection of the speaker, not for any other reason you may dream up. i'm not saying anyone was justified in drawing a gun, just pointing out that there was a reason for guns to be at the venue.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
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    BetterThanYou wrote:
    oh, go fuck yourself with the parroting of the kool-aid statement. here's what you said:

    "...armed policemen stationed a few feet from the microphone is bloody fascism right there.

    Man I tell ya people are getting blind these days. Conditioned to not noticing or questioning the blatantly obvious."

    you said nothing about how quickly a gun was pointed at anyone. you pick and choose what you don't like and run with it. it's not fascism, and nobody is blind. armed policemen were there for protection of the speaker, not for any other reason you may dream up. i'm not saying anyone was justified in drawing a gun, just pointing out that there was a reason for guns to be at the venue.


    whoa...chill pill...

    pick and choose;..huh? You watched the vid right? So how observant are you, and how exactly is that my fault?

    Hello...reality check...planet earth.... fascism 101...
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  • BetterThanYou
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    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    whoa...chill pill...

    pick and choose;..huh? You watched the vid right? So how observant are you, and how exactly is that my fault?

    Hello...reality check...planet earth.... fascism 101...

    are you reading anything i wrote? you clearly said it was fascist because there were armed policemen there. once again, do you not understand why there were armed policemen in attendance? nevermind the fact he got tasered, nevermind someone pulled a gun. your original statement that made me reply (do i really need to copy and paste it again?) said nothing about pulling a gun out, only that you were disgusted that there were guns in attendance and labeled it fascist. it is not fascist. if anything, it's part of regulations.

    i don't want to argue with you about whether someone should have pulled a gun out or not, but if you want my opinion, it shouldn't have happened. keep it holstered. stupid move on the part of the cops. i'm not willing to go so far as to call it fascist. just stupid.

    and contrary to what you may believe, you're not right all the time. i'd have an easier time digesting what you have to say if you weren't so condescending all the time.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
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    BetterThanYou wrote:
    are you reading anything i wrote? you clearly said it was fascist because there were armed policemen there. once again, do you not understand why there were armed policemen in attendance? nevermind the fact he got tasered, nevermind someone pulled a gun. your original statement that made me reply (do i really need to copy and paste it again?) said nothing about pulling a gun out, only that you were disgusted that there were guns in attendance and labeled it fascist. it is not fascist. if anything, it's part of regulations.

    i don't want to argue with you about whether someone should have pulled a gun out or not, but if you want my opinion, it shouldn't have happened. keep it holstered. stupid move on the part of the cops. i'm not willing to go so far as to call it fascist. just stupid.

    and contrary to what you may believe, you're not right all the time. i'd have an easier time digesting what you have to say if you weren't so condescending all the time.

    well..what policemen aren't armed these days? It's assumed no?

    I have no clue what you're trying to say now...

    The cops (three?) were practically humping the mic...

    That's intimidation.

    If they wanted to actually protect the speaker they should have been near the stage, not at the microphone.

    The intent was obvious.
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  • BUFFALO
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    my take is that the freakin kid deserved it ...my god BRO shut up ...someone please tazzz his assssssss .....
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
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    BUFFALO wrote:
    my take is that the freakin kid deserved it ...my god BRO shut up ...someone please tazzz his assssssss .....

    sheep are calm...patriots aren't
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  • BetterThanYou
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    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    well..what policemen aren't armed these days? It's assumed no?

    I have no clue what you're trying to say now...

    The cops (three?) were practically humping the mic...

    That's intimidation.

    If they wanted to actually protect the speaker they should have been near the stage, not at the microphone.

    The intent was obvious.

    you know what, after watching that video again and trying to see when a gun was pulled, the only time i see one is when he tries to get free from the cops and moves in the direction of the stage, which would more than likely warrant anyone put in charge of protecting kerry to draw their weapon. also, the video is a bit grainy, but could the gun actually be a stun gun? it looks rather boxy at the end of the barrel.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
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    BetterThanYou wrote:
    you know what, after watching that video again and trying to see when a gun was pulled, the only time i see one is when he tries to get free from the cops and moves in the direction of the stage, which would more than likely warrant anyone put in charge of protecting kerry to draw their weapon. also, the video is a bit grainy, but could the gun actually be a stun gun? it looks rather boxy at the end of the barrel.

    It looked like a gun. I would imagine they all passed through metal detectors prior to entering. Perhaps not.

    I think it was purely an act of intimidation.

    a power trip...

    Cops power trip all the time...they get a high from it.
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  • BUFFALO
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    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    sheep are calm...patriots aren't
    were in trouble ....

    i think yur tellin your age ....or maybe yur just that mental, small that u would think this class clown is a patriot .... baaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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  • BetterThanYou
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    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    It looked like a gun. I would imagine they all passed through metal detectors prior to entering. Perhaps not.

    I think it was purely an act of intimidation.

    a power trip...

    Cops power trip all the time...they get a high from it.

    well, that's where we differ. the only thing i might partially agree with you is pulling an actual gun out. the thing that would worry me most about that is if it accidentally went off and hit someone in the crowd. i can understand someone being jittery when a person makes a move towards the stage, but pulling an actual firearm should be the last thing they do. but i don't even know if i agree that it was a gun and not a stun gun. it really does look very large and boxy at the end of the barrel. i watched the cops in LA use a stun gun on a guy in a disabled car, holding a hostage. i can't say it looked exactly the same as what i see in this video, but kinda similar. is there a clearer video out of this kid getting arrested?
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
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    BetterThanYou wrote:
    well, that's where we differ. the only thing i might partially agree with you is pulling an actual gun out. the thing that would worry me most about that is if it accidentally went off and hit someone in the crowd. i can understand someone being jittery when a person makes a move towards the stage, but pulling an actual firearm should be the last thing they do. but i don't even know if i agree that it was a gun and not a stun gun. it really does look very large and boxy at the end of the barrel. i watched the cops in LA use a stun gun on a guy in a disabled car, holding a hostage. i can't say it looked exactly the same as what i see in this video, but kinda similar. is there a clearer video out of this kid getting arrested?

    Gone are the good old days when a person could get passionate about something and speak their mind...

    Now they just get manhandled and arrested..
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  • BetterThanYou
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    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Gone are the good old days when a person could get passionate about something and speak their mind...

    Now they just get manhandled and arrested..

    i don't agree. this kid was getting thrown out by the organizers of the event (the people that paid kerry to speak, not this kid), police went to escort him out, he got extremely loud and disruptive and tried numerous times to break free from the cops. there's no way of knowing for sure, but i'd be willing to bet all the money i have if he just let the cops walk him out, speaking his mind on the way out (not shouting his mind, but speaking), he wouldn't have been tased or arrested.

    i've seen numerous videos here on the train of people protesting many different things, and when they act civil (even when breaking the law), they're treated with respect. when you get out of control, nobody knows what you're going to do next and things that don't have to happen, happen.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
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    BetterThanYou wrote:
    i don't agree. this kid was getting thrown out by the organizers of the event (the people that paid kerry to speak, not this kid), police went to escort him out, he got extremely loud and disruptive and tried numerous times to break free from the cops. there's no way of knowing for sure, but i'd be willing to bet all the money i have if he just let the cops walk him out, speaking his mind on the way out (not shouting his mind, but speaking), he wouldn't have been tased or arrested.

    i've seen numerous videos here on the train of people protesting many different things, and when they act civil (even when breaking the law), they're treated with respect. when you get out of control, nobody knows what you're going to do next and things that don't have to happen, happen.

    He asked a question they grabbed him. The police assaulted him. You can't just grab people and start twisting their arms behind their back for talking.

    He was right to question the police. The police were the ones breaking the law...namely the right to freedom of speech .

    cmon...smarten up..

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