Police taser student at John Kerry Q&A

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  • Open
    Open Posts: 792
    jeffbr wrote:
    He didn't want to hear Kerry's response. Kerry tried twice to answer but the bitch kept yelling and whining.

    He totally brought it on himself. It was completely staged. Some of you are so blind in your hatred of 'The Man' that you can't see when you're being taken for a ride.

    So he should have been tasered? Give me a break!
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Open wrote:
    So he should have been tasered? Give me a break!

    No, he shouldn't have been. He should have acted his age. At any point in the process prior to the tasing he could have stopped it. He got exactly what he wanted - 15 minutes of fame and hits on his website.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,146
    jeffbr wrote:
    No, he shouldn't have been. He should have acted his age. At any point in the process prior to the tasing he could have stopped it. He got exactly what he wanted - 15 minutes of fame and hits on his website.

    that is not the issue. the issue is the cops abusing their authority, which in this case they clearly did. just another example of us turning into a police state and everyone is ok with it.

    what was the kid gonna do to them, swing the book at them? give me a break.

    you may approve of cops acting like this, but i think its totally over the line. they did not even read him his rights before tasing him.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

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  • Open
    Open Posts: 792
    jeffbr wrote:
    No, he shouldn't have been. He should have acted his age. At any point in the process prior to the tasing he could have stopped it. He got exactly what he wanted - 15 minutes of fame and hits on his website.

    Based on your theory the next 3rd grader that doesnt act his age deserves to be tasered.
  • Kerry could have stopped it.
  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    my thoughts...

    the kid's behavior was overblown and paranoid. he should have focused more on one or two questions/issues, and let Kerry respond. even Alex Jones' site said he was "histrionic", which is hilarious given the source.

    however, NO NEED whatsoever to taser the dude. yes, he resisted arrest, but he was not a threat to anyone. in one video, the female cop says he was "inciting a riot". gimme a fucking break. the police's behavior was much worse than his.
  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    flutteron wrote:
    Kerry could have stopped it.

    i think that's a good point too. Kerry was way too tepid.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    that is not the issue. the issue is the cops abusing their authority, which in this case they clearly did. just another example of us turning into a police state and everyone is ok with it.

    what was the kid gonna do to them, swing the book at them? give me a break.

    you may approve of cops acting like this, but i think its totally over the line. they did not even read him his rights before tasing him.

    I think you're bordering on the same hysteria that the dipshit in the video demonstrated.

    I have a general distrust for government, authority, cops, etc... I am anti-tax, anti-social services, anti-police-state. But I am also anti-stupidity. That fucking guy could have stopped the escalation any time he chose.

    Again, show me a case where someone is not creating a situation and gets tasered, and I'll be up in arms. I'll join you in moral outrage.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • I like at 1 min 50 when the one cop pulls a gun on him. He was ready to lay him down permanently.

    Should be an interesting police report....subject said "skull and bones"...was combative and then resisted arrest...was subsequently piled onto by multiple officers, promptly handcuffed then tasered. Victory. Freedom.

    We also think he had slept at a holiday inn last night, and had wheaties the following morning for breakfast.

    lol...
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  • jeffbr wrote:
    He wasn't just talking, he was disrupting a public event. At some point that becomes disturbing the peace. The kid was not interested in Kerry's response (although I would have been). He started talking, and wouldn't shut up. Even after Kerry said he'd answer the questions he'd start yelling and creating a disturbance.

    If any of you think he acted with decorum and respect, let me know. I'd like to stay away from you at public meetings.
    someone can get tasered for being disrespectful? wow!
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
  • i would fucking love to own a fucking taser.....
    yeah! that would be awesome. then i'll tase any of you punks here in the pearljam thread who questions me! :mad:
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
  • i took a college course with one of the most reknowed and important socialist thinkers of our time- John Bellamy Foster.

    His son was friends with a high school kid who was killed by police.

    My professor said this: If my house was broken into, i would let the burgular kill me before I called the police"

    I agree.

    Police are monsters.

    Its the only profession where you can kill people, and not be punished.

    "Killing and brutalizing citizens daily" should be their motto

    A bunch of strong big men! They murder a black man over a WALLET people!

    Did the people who beat rodney king really need to beat him?

    Police are pigs.

    I am glad i gave florida police a call. They deserve to be called what they really are. They arent heroes. they are killers.

    Wow they are so cool, they tasered an unarmed man! Wow daddy I want to be a police officer!
    but that's overgeneralizing dude... this is a little too much man. it ain't like some huge conspiracy. now don't get me wrong... i don't support cops who do this. but there are good decent cops out there who are trying to "protect and serve" the community.

    heck... wanna say something nice about a cop? ok. i was driving 84 mph on a construction zone and a 65 speed limit with no proof of insurance in katie texas. a cop stopped me and passed me off with a warning... all he asked me is why i was speeding. i said i had a meeting with a girl... a date, mind you. he asked for proof of insurance.... i didn't have it but i told him it was under my sisters. the dude calmly just passed me off with a warning. and said, "just drive safe, ok?"

    you gotta understand that cops are people too.... trying to do their jobs the best they can. yeah, sometimes they mess up... just like any other human individual would. some cops are crooks.... some are not. you can't overgeneralize the situation.

    see.... when you look at it at a perspective without holding any sides you begin to realize that people tend to go from one extreme to the other. cops aren't ALWAYS going to be justified by their actions.... but at the same time cops aren't ALWAYS going to be "pigs" or "killers".

    no... i don't agree that the cops should've tased the dude.... but albeit... i don't think they had any other clue of how to deal with the situation.

    i still get pissed at cops for many reasons. here in austin... in the last 4 years or so they have killed about 9 unarmed black and hispanic males... no older than 25 and all were done by white cops. yeah, it's a big deal here too.
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  • jeffbr wrote:
    I think you're bordering on the same hysteria that the dipshit in the video demonstrated.

    I have a general distrust for government, authority, cops, etc... I am anti-tax, anti-social services, anti-police-state. But I am also anti-stupidity. That fucking guy could have stopped the escalation any time he chose.

    Again, show me a case where someone is not creating a situation and gets tasered, and I'll be up in arms. I'll join you in moral outrage.
    there's been thousands of situations/cases where someone's not creating a situation and gets tasered.... or much worse, get shot and killed. you're what you would call a pretty stupendous ignoramaus if you haven't figured that one out.

    point in case, come to austin... i'll give you about 9 or so of these cases.

    hell, you wanna hear one different one? not exactly the same... but here's what happened. a few months ago we had a lot of rain here in austin... so some areas got pretty flooded. there was this hispanic lady who tried to pass a closed road with her child because of flooding. a sheriff caught her trying to pass so he took her in for putting her child in danger. guess how many years the judge wanted to give her? 10 years. fuckerifficabillysuperridiculous! good thing people protested and told the judge to get his head out of his ass... cause that's pretty messed up. so the judge reduced the sentence to something like 2 years probation and 10 years community service or something like that.

    i'll try to find you the link... it was kinda a long time ago... but i'll see if i can find it.
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  • Puck78
    Puck78 Posts: 737
    are you all joking? I've been to a lot of conferences and if all the people that went over the maximum time would have been taken away by the police (and I'm neither talking about being tasered), conferences would be empty.
    If someone gous out of time they take him away the mic, eventually, but being arrested is pure fascism and repression.
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  • Puck78 wrote:
    are you all joking? I've been to a lot of conferences and if all the people that went over the maximum time would have been taken away by the police (and I'm neither talking about being tasered), conferences would be empty.
    If someone gous out of time they take him away the mic, eventually, but being arrested is pure fascism and repression.

    No kidding... armed policemen stationed a few feet from the microphone is bloody fascism right there.

    Man I tell ya people are getting blind these days. Conditioned to not noticing or questioning the blatantly obvious.

    It keeps getting worse as we go along...

    It's epidemic.
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • Open wrote:
    It could have been a simple procedure of letting him listen to Kerry's response.
    He was being obnoxious and acting like a highschooler (before they took him away too). Did you hear the entire audience clap as he was being taken away? He was probably acting immature the whole time and people and the cops were fed up. It said he had a history of taping his practical jokes, did nobody read that part that's defending this tool? Just listen to the way he asked his questions, he didn't give a shit about the answer, just wanted attention. Look at his website. He was acting this way for attention and now he's getting it.
  • Here's the complete footage from the reverse angle.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3ec_1190097717

    They arrested him for inciting a riot.

    fucking screw heads...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Puck78
    Puck78 Posts: 737
    danny72688 wrote:
    He was being obnoxious and acting like a highschooler (before they took him away too). Did you hear the entire audience clap as he was being taken away? He was probably acting immature the whole time and people and the cops were fed up. It said he had a history of taping his practical jokes, did nobody read that part that's defending this tool? Just listen to the way he asked his questions, he didn't give a shit about the answer, just wanted attention. Look at his website. He was acting this way for attention and now he's getting it.
    is it enough to arrest him? Prisons would be super full, if people acting immature could be arrested for that
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  • stu gee
    stu gee Posts: 1,174
    I thought the video was quite funny.
    People say im paranoid. Well, they dont say it, but i know that's what they are thinking.