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  • Milestone
    Milestone Posts: 1,143
    onelongsong wrote:
    why do athiests have so much anger toward those of religion?

    I can't speak for all. But, 2 things bug me.

    1) More often than not....the child molester or marraige cheater is a "religious person".

    2) More often than not.... it's the religious people that are pro-war.

    onelongsong wrote:
    if you tell someone of religion that you are athiest; they feel sorry for you and maybe pray for you; which is an act of compassion to them.

    Actually, I feel sorry for the religious people. Think of all the hours spent going to church during a lifetime.....only to find out there is no heaven.
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    know1 wrote:
    Read the thread a little more closely and drop your prejudices. I'm not offended by them tearing up my religion. I'm saying they are hypocrites for getting offended when someone does the same thing to them that they do to others.
    I don't care one bit when they bash me or religion.

    and im saying you are a hypocrite for acting like you aren't doing the same to them every time you talk about how sorry you feel for them.
  • crittables
    crittables Posts: 342
    know1 wrote:
    Right because this accurately describes all Christians 100%.

    The real root of the problem is that you people seem to be so close-minded, biased and prejudiced that you think all Christians are identical.


    i was just pointing out one of my many problems with christianity
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    know1 wrote:
    But when I talk to them, it suddenly becomes "you're trying to shove your beliefs down my throat"

    It's all the same thing. The friend who was getting married would get defensive as well.

    precisely. becos the friend is very excited and happy about his decision. and then to have a stranger or close friend suddenly pissing on his parade is upsetting and angers them. if the friend had doubts, he'd ask. likewise, shut the fuck up about your goddamn god unless someone's asking.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,800
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    It wouldn't be if you didn't act like your view was the only acceptable, true way to see it.

    Who says I would act that way? Would you act that way in talking to the person about marriage? There are ways to help people that do not offend them just like there are ways that do. Heck, some women get offended when you hold the door open for them.
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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    know1 wrote:
    Read the thread a little more closely and drop your prejudices. I'm not offended by them tearing up my religion. I'm saying they are hypocrites for getting offended when someone does the same thing to them that they do to others.
    I don't care one bit when they bash me or religion.

    EXACTLY. if it's wrong for someone to force religion down your throat; why is is ok for you to do the same? that's like saying mr x killed mr y so i'm going to kill now.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,800
    soulsinging wrote:
    precisely. becos the friend is very excited and happy about his decision. and then to have a stranger or close friend suddenly pissing on his parade is upsetting and angers them. if the friend had doubts, he'd ask. likewise, shut the fuck up about your goddamn god unless someone's asking.

    Take a look in the mirror and tell me whose the one doing things that should offend someone else.
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    know1 wrote:
    Right because this accurately describes all Christians 100%.

    The real root of the problem is that you people seem to be so close-minded, biased and prejudiced that you think all Christians are identical.

    i doubt anyone on here truly believes that. but most of us do believe (and probably rightly so) that MOST christians are like that. what is it... 75% of this country is christian? you truly believe most of them are truly devoted to living like jesus did?
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    know1 wrote:
    Who says I would act that way? Would you act that way in talking to the person about marriage? There are ways to help people that do not offend them just like there are ways that do. Heck, some women get offended when you hold the door open for them.

    You're acting this way about religion and calling it compassion.
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  • know1
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    soulsinging wrote:
    and im saying you are a hypocrite for acting like you aren't doing the same to them every time you talk about how sorry you feel for them.

    Great. Except...in all your intelligence...you still haven't figured out that it doesn't bother me if they bash religion, but it does bother them if I am pro-religion.

    You don't have a real great grasp of the obvious, huh?
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    know1 wrote:
    Take a look in the mirror and tell me whose the one doing things that should offend someone else.

    i was doing that on purpose to get your attention. dispute the rest of my points. and it's 6 of one, half dozen of the other. cos your single-minded refusal to own up to your own hypocrisy and admit that you do exactly what you're lamenting here pisses me off.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,800
    This thread's gone exactly the way the original poster predicted in the first post. Thanks for demonstrating that he was dead-on accurate.

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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    know1 wrote:
    Great. Except...in all your intelligence...you still haven't figured out that it doesn't bother me if they bash religion, but it does bother them if I am pro-religion.

    You don't have a real great grasp of the obvious, huh?

    no, it doesn't bother them if you're pro-religion. it bothers them that you're pro-religion and are so arrogant about it that you pity anyone who isn't. why can you not grasp that?
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    soulsinging wrote:
    precisely. becos the friend is very excited and happy about his decision. and then to have a stranger or close friend suddenly pissing on his parade is upsetting and angers them. if the friend had doubts, he'd ask. likewise, shut the fuck up about your goddamn god unless someone's asking.

    and don't jump into religious threads if you don't want to hear about God. can't you see you put yourself in the situation by entering a conversation about God.

    hey ss; i'm going to pray for you every day just to piss you off.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,800
    soulsinging wrote:
    i was doing that on purpose to get your attention. dispute the rest of my points. and it's 6 of one, half dozen of the other. cos your single-minded refusal to own up to your own hypocrisy and admit that you do exactly what you're lamenting here pisses me off.

    OK - here's how I see it. Slow and simple for ya:

    1. I am not offended by athiests or by someone bashing my religion.

    2. They are offended by someone being pro-religious, yet feel it is OK to bash religion.

    Now I might be biased, but I think the hypocrite is the person in #2.

    (Read it slowly a few times before replying)
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    You're acting this way about religion and calling it compassion.

    precisely. maybe this is why the atheists are so angry... they're really just compassionately trying to show you how wrong you are and how you should embrace the true belief system before it's too late and you've wasted all your sundays in church?
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,800
    soulsinging wrote:
    no, it doesn't bother them if you're pro-religion. it bothers them that you're pro-religion and are so arrogant about it that you pity anyone who isn't. why can you not grasp that?


    Because it's not the same thing. You're jumping from one thing to something else there.

    It's like this (3rd time): One camp bashes freely and claims to be offended by getting bashed (that's hypocritical). The other camp doesn't get offended by bashing and therefore should have a right to bash back (or express their religious views).
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

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  • Milestone
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    know1 wrote:
    This thread's gone exactly the way the original poster predicted in the first post. Thanks for demonstrating that he was dead-on accurate.


    Of course!

    It wasn't hard to prove.

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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    know1 wrote:
    OK - here's how I see it. Slow and simple for ya:

    1. I am not offended by athiests or by someone bashing my religion.

    2. They are offended by someone being pro-religious, yet feel it is OK to bash religion.

    Now I might be biased, but I think the hypocrite is the person in #2.

    (Read it slowly a few times before replying)

    1. atheists are not offended by you believing in god.

    2. they are offended by you bashing them for not doing so. they dont feel it is ok to bash religion, they do it becos you bash them first and they do it out of frustration and all-too-human shortcomings of fighting fire with fire.

    no, the atheists are not perfect. but they're also only human. and when you fight dirty with your passive-aggressive bullshit (i dont bash their beliefs, i just feel so sorry for those stupid, pathetic sinners), they fight dirty back. no, it's not good, but they can hardly be blamed. perhaps if you got some of your christian brothers and sisters to stop acting like their shit dont stink and they are god's gift to this heathen world, then you wouldn't have this problem. focus your pity on them, not the atheists. the atheists dont need it.
  • crittables
    crittables Posts: 342
    know1 wrote:
    OK - here's how I see it. Slow and simple for ya:

    1. I am not offended by athiests or by someone bashing my religion.

    2. They are offended by someone being pro-religious, yet feel it is OK to bash religion.

    Now I might be biased, but I think the hypocrite is the person in #2.

    (Read it slowly a few times before replying)


    hey hey now, when you say "they are offended" the wording implies all atheist. don't make assumptions. surely all atheists aren't offended.

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