it's just really annoying when someone says they'll pray for me or feel sorry for me b/c it implies that they think i'm wrong and in need of it. if you want to pray for me, then pray for me, but don't tell me about it.
Wow, you must have an amazingly great life where someone mentioning they said a prayer for you counts a major inconvenience. Imagine the horror of having to put up with that? I fully empathize (but not sympathize) with this grievace life that is thrust upon you.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
Religion is forgiveness and love. The fact that your sins can be forgiven and you avoid hell demonstrates both.
i agree that christianity is supposed to be about forgiveness and love. it just doesn't make sense to me when christians go around "sinning" all week then sunday roles around, they go to church and poof! they're good again. and they cycle starts over. like girls my age that preach the bible yet there screwing their boyfriends and drinking all weekend, then sunday there they are at church so it's okay.
im not telling you how you feel, im telling you how your pity is perceived and why atheists are mad abotu it.
you get upset when they rip your religion apart dont you? they feel the same when you do it to their personal beliefs. now before you claim you don't do that, cut the bullshit. yes you do. your "pity" is just a passive-aggressive way of saying "poor little idiot doesn't even know the right way to pray to god!" it's dismissive and as abhorrent as the atheists ripping christians. in fact, it's worse becos at least the atheists have the honesty to admit to what they're doing.
If they perceive genuine compassion that way, then it's their problem.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Wow, you must have an amazingly great life where someone mentioning they said a prayer for you counts a major inconvenience. Imagine the horror of having to put up with that? I fully empathize (but not sympathize) with this grievace life that is thrust upon you.
i don't have a problem with someone wanting to pray for me b/c i'm sick or hurt or something like that. when it irritates me is when it's someone praying for me b/c i'm not a christian. like i need to be saved. screw that. i'm good.
it is thier way of showing compassion. hinduism believes you are reincarnated until you find enlightenment; as do other religions. the concept of hell is limited to only a couple religions. if someone tells you that you are going to hell; they missed the whole point. religion is forgiveness and love.
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"I feel sorry for athiests because I believe they are ultimately -->going to hell<-- unless they change. I'm not sure why any of them would care that I was religious."
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Did this person miss the mark?
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im not telling you how you feel, im telling you how your pity is perceived and why atheists are mad abotu it.
you get upset when they rip your religion apart dont you? they feel the same when you do it to their personal beliefs. now before you claim you don't do that, cut the bullshit. yes you do. your "pity" is just a passive-aggressive way of saying "poor little idiot doesn't even know the right way to pray to god!" it's dismissive and as abhorrent as the atheists ripping christians. in fact, it's worse becos at least the atheists have the honesty to admit to what they're doing.
That's it exactly.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
If they perceive genuine compassion that way, then it's their problem.
then why is it also their problem that you're offended by them tearing up your religion? all they're doing is swinging back and suddenly you act like they threw the first punch.
Religion is forgiveness and love. The fact that your sins can be forgiven and you avoid hell demonstrates both.
very true. but it's how you must pay for those sins. in hinduism; you are born again. a very bad person could be reincarnated as a lower life form. forgiveness also means giving someone another chance.
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you get upset when they rip your religion apart dont you? they feel the same when you do it to their personal beliefs. now before you claim you don't do that, cut the bullshit. yes you do. your "pity" is just a passive-aggressive way of saying "poor little idiot doesn't even know the right way to pray to god!" it's dismissive and as abhorrent as the atheists ripping christians. in fact, it's worse becos at least the atheists have the honesty to admit to what they're doing.
Wow, you must have an amazingly great life where someone mentioning they said a prayer for you counts a major inconvenience. Imagine the horror of having to put up with that? I fully empathize (but not sympathize) with this grievace life that is thrust upon you.
do you want to succeed at your job becos of your own merits? or are you perfectly ok with your daddy pulling strings and calling old friends to get you your promotions, rather than being judged on your merits? regardless of whether or not it's working, that kind of egocentric meddling (i know what's good for you better than you do and ill give it to you whether you want it or not) pisses people off. i can get through my life on my own. if i need god's help, i will ask him for it myself. it's none of your fucking business what i do.
If they perceive genuine compassion that way, then it's their problem.
True compassion involves caring about the person not just pointing out how their short comings in your eyes will send them to hell. If you had a friend who was going to marry a girl who you thought was all wrong for him, you would talk to them about how you felt and also be understanding of their feelings...you wouldn't say 'I feel sorry for you because you're going to end up in divorce court in a few years'.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
i agree that christianity is supposed to be about forgiveness and love. it just doesn't make sense to me when christians go around "sinning" all week then sunday roles around, they go to church and poof! they're good again. and they cycle starts over. like girls my age that preach the bible yet there screwing their boyfriends and drinking all weekend, then sunday there they are at church so it's okay.
there's a big difference between someone of religion and someone who winds thier God up on sunday. that is one of the biggest sins because it mocks God. the reason being that you know better. intent has a lot to do with it.
the football and basketball championships this year are definitive proof that there is no god
nah i just think it proves he has a wicked sense of humor. or maybe there was something else going on that day, and he ignored a entire cities prayers for a win:)
then why is it also their problem that you're offended by them tearing up your religion? all they're doing is swinging back and suddenly you act like they threw the first punch.
Read the thread a little more closely and drop your prejudices. I'm not offended by them tearing up my religion. I'm saying they are hypocrites for getting offended when someone does the same thing to them that they do to others.
I don't care one bit when they bash me or religion.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
True compassion involves caring about the person not just pointing out how their short comings in your eyes will send them to hell. If you had a friend who was going to marry a girl who you thought was all wrong for him, you would talk to them about how you felt and also be understanding of their feelings...you wouldn't say 'I feel sorry for you because you're going to end up in divorce court in a few years'.
But when I talk to them, it suddenly becomes "you're trying to shove your beliefs down my throat"
It's all the same thing. The friend who was getting married would get defensive as well.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
i agree that christianity is supposed to be about forgiveness and love. it just doesn't make sense to me when christians go around "sinning" all week then sunday roles around, they go to church and poof! they're good again. and they cycle starts over. like girls my age that preach the bible yet there screwing their boyfriends and drinking all weekend, then sunday there they are at church so it's okay.
Right because this accurately describes all Christians 100%.
The real root of the problem is that you people seem to be so close-minded, biased and prejudiced that you think all Christians are identical.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
True compassion involves caring about the person not just pointing out how their short comings in your eyes will send them to hell. If you had a friend who was going to marry a girl who you thought was all wrong for him, you would talk to them about how you felt and also be understanding of their feelings...you wouldn't say 'I feel sorry for you because you're going to end up in divorce court in a few years'.
religion supports the spread of athiesm and the coming of the antichrist. this will bring the end of times. they are praying for you because your views were predicted and you will bring the end of times. this is your mission. this is what religions look forward to.
if you tell someone of religion that you are athiest; they feel sorry for you and maybe pray for you; which is an act of compassion to them.
Actually, I feel sorry for the religious people. Think of all the hours spent going to church during a lifetime.....only to find out there is no heaven.
Read the thread a little more closely and drop your prejudices. I'm not offended by them tearing up my religion. I'm saying they are hypocrites for getting offended when someone does the same thing to them that they do to others.
I don't care one bit when they bash me or religion.
and im saying you are a hypocrite for acting like you aren't doing the same to them every time you talk about how sorry you feel for them.
But when I talk to them, it suddenly becomes "you're trying to shove your beliefs down my throat"
It's all the same thing. The friend who was getting married would get defensive as well.
precisely. becos the friend is very excited and happy about his decision. and then to have a stranger or close friend suddenly pissing on his parade is upsetting and angers them. if the friend had doubts, he'd ask. likewise, shut the fuck up about your goddamn god unless someone's asking.
It wouldn't be if you didn't act like your view was the only acceptable, true way to see it.
Who says I would act that way? Would you act that way in talking to the person about marriage? There are ways to help people that do not offend them just like there are ways that do. Heck, some women get offended when you hold the door open for them.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Read the thread a little more closely and drop your prejudices. I'm not offended by them tearing up my religion. I'm saying they are hypocrites for getting offended when someone does the same thing to them that they do to others.
I don't care one bit when they bash me or religion.
EXACTLY. if it's wrong for someone to force religion down your throat; why is is ok for you to do the same? that's like saying mr x killed mr y so i'm going to kill now.
precisely. becos the friend is very excited and happy about his decision. and then to have a stranger or close friend suddenly pissing on his parade is upsetting and angers them. if the friend had doubts, he'd ask. likewise, shut the fuck up about your goddamn god unless someone's asking.
Take a look in the mirror and tell me whose the one doing things that should offend someone else.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Right because this accurately describes all Christians 100%.
The real root of the problem is that you people seem to be so close-minded, biased and prejudiced that you think all Christians are identical.
i doubt anyone on here truly believes that. but most of us do believe (and probably rightly so) that MOST christians are like that. what is it... 75% of this country is christian? you truly believe most of them are truly devoted to living like jesus did?
Who says I would act that way? Would you act that way in talking to the person about marriage? There are ways to help people that do not offend them just like there are ways that do. Heck, some women get offended when you hold the door open for them.
You're acting this way about religion and calling it compassion.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
and im saying you are a hypocrite for acting like you aren't doing the same to them every time you talk about how sorry you feel for them.
Great. Except...in all your intelligence...you still haven't figured out that it doesn't bother me if they bash religion, but it does bother them if I am pro-religion.
You don't have a real great grasp of the obvious, huh?
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
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when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
i agree that christianity is supposed to be about forgiveness and love. it just doesn't make sense to me when christians go around "sinning" all week then sunday roles around, they go to church and poof! they're good again. and they cycle starts over. like girls my age that preach the bible yet there screwing their boyfriends and drinking all weekend, then sunday there they are at church so it's okay.
If they perceive genuine compassion that way, then it's their problem.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
i don't have a problem with someone wanting to pray for me b/c i'm sick or hurt or something like that. when it irritates me is when it's someone praying for me b/c i'm not a christian. like i need to be saved. screw that. i'm good.
"I feel sorry for athiests because I believe they are ultimately -->going to hell<-- unless they change. I'm not sure why any of them would care that I was religious."
...
Did this person miss the mark?
Hail, Hail!!!
That's it exactly.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
then why is it also their problem that you're offended by them tearing up your religion? all they're doing is swinging back and suddenly you act like they threw the first punch.
very true. but it's how you must pay for those sins. in hinduism; you are born again. a very bad person could be reincarnated as a lower life form. forgiveness also means giving someone another chance.
thanks, you put this better than i could
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do you want to succeed at your job becos of your own merits? or are you perfectly ok with your daddy pulling strings and calling old friends to get you your promotions, rather than being judged on your merits? regardless of whether or not it's working, that kind of egocentric meddling (i know what's good for you better than you do and ill give it to you whether you want it or not) pisses people off. i can get through my life on my own. if i need god's help, i will ask him for it myself. it's none of your fucking business what i do.
the football and basketball championships this year are definitive proof that there is no god
True compassion involves caring about the person not just pointing out how their short comings in your eyes will send them to hell. If you had a friend who was going to marry a girl who you thought was all wrong for him, you would talk to them about how you felt and also be understanding of their feelings...you wouldn't say 'I feel sorry for you because you're going to end up in divorce court in a few years'.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
there's a big difference between someone of religion and someone who winds thier God up on sunday. that is one of the biggest sins because it mocks God. the reason being that you know better. intent has a lot to do with it.
nah i just think it proves he has a wicked sense of humor. or maybe there was something else going on that day, and he ignored a entire cities prayers for a win:)
if they are using religion for means of killing.....then yes they fucking are responsible.
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Read the thread a little more closely and drop your prejudices. I'm not offended by them tearing up my religion. I'm saying they are hypocrites for getting offended when someone does the same thing to them that they do to others.
I don't care one bit when they bash me or religion.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
But when I talk to them, it suddenly becomes "you're trying to shove your beliefs down my throat"
It's all the same thing. The friend who was getting married would get defensive as well.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Right because this accurately describes all Christians 100%.
The real root of the problem is that you people seem to be so close-minded, biased and prejudiced that you think all Christians are identical.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
It wouldn't be if you didn't act like your view was the only acceptable, true way to see it.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
religion supports the spread of athiesm and the coming of the antichrist. this will bring the end of times. they are praying for you because your views were predicted and you will bring the end of times. this is your mission. this is what religions look forward to.
I can't speak for all. But, 2 things bug me.
1) More often than not....the child molester or marraige cheater is a "religious person".
2) More often than not.... it's the religious people that are pro-war.
Actually, I feel sorry for the religious people. Think of all the hours spent going to church during a lifetime.....only to find out there is no heaven.
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and im saying you are a hypocrite for acting like you aren't doing the same to them every time you talk about how sorry you feel for them.
i was just pointing out one of my many problems with christianity
precisely. becos the friend is very excited and happy about his decision. and then to have a stranger or close friend suddenly pissing on his parade is upsetting and angers them. if the friend had doubts, he'd ask. likewise, shut the fuck up about your goddamn god unless someone's asking.
Who says I would act that way? Would you act that way in talking to the person about marriage? There are ways to help people that do not offend them just like there are ways that do. Heck, some women get offended when you hold the door open for them.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
EXACTLY. if it's wrong for someone to force religion down your throat; why is is ok for you to do the same? that's like saying mr x killed mr y so i'm going to kill now.
Take a look in the mirror and tell me whose the one doing things that should offend someone else.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
i doubt anyone on here truly believes that. but most of us do believe (and probably rightly so) that MOST christians are like that. what is it... 75% of this country is christian? you truly believe most of them are truly devoted to living like jesus did?
You're acting this way about religion and calling it compassion.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Great. Except...in all your intelligence...you still haven't figured out that it doesn't bother me if they bash religion, but it does bother them if I am pro-religion.
You don't have a real great grasp of the obvious, huh?
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.