Was christianity a hoax?

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  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    even if Jesus did walk on water and all that shit, he never played guitar like J Mascis or Mr. Mike McCready, so really how good could he be?



    i'm being quite serious.
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    #2 12-22-2006, 05:18 AM
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    again...

    Thank you for your brilliant ability in cutting and pasting another man's words. Quite original. See, you can make a point by just seeking the answers yourself. You don't have to steal someone else's words....
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  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Do you believe in morals or integrity or anything like that..

    because those are beliefs - There is no scientific basis..

    Those are similarly hoaxes... Not nice to call what people belive in a hoax... we all have beliefs -

    Nice? Are you kidding me?

    What's nice about religious kooks who insist that anyone who doesn't believe as they do and in what they believe in; that they are going to burn in hell?

    It's not NICE to repeatidly knock on my front door and ring my bell, at 7:00 AM on a Saturday morining; to "enlighten " me about "your" god.

    What's not NICE is religious organizations who refuse to pay taxes, but spend their money on lobbyists in Washington, lobbying and influencing Congress to create Laws and policies that reflect their religious beliefs.

    If the religious people can't handle an opinion and belief that differs from theirs, then they need to shut the fuck up about their opinions and beliefs!
  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    Byrnzie wrote:
    If it's so obvious and backed up by 'every credible, credentialed historian alive' then it won't be at all difficult for you to provide at least one piece of evidence.
    Go ahead...
    As the old adage goes: Put up, or shut up!

    Historical evidence is not scientific evidence, it's based on interpretation :
    2 historians can disagree on one fact.
    make up your opinion
    Though I don't really see the point on arguing the historical existence of jesus.
  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    NMyTree wrote:
    Nice? Are you kidding me?

    What's nice about religious kooks who insist that anyone who doesn't believe as they do and in what they believe in; that they are going to burn in hell?

    It's not NICE to repeatidly knock on my front door and ring my bell, at 7:00 AM on a Saturday morining; to "enlighten " me about "your" god.

    What's not NICE is religious organizations who refuse to pay taxes, but spend their money on lobbyists in Washington, lobbying and influencing Congress to create Laws and policies that reflect their religious beliefs.

    You act like jesus was so criminal or something. People trying to turn you on to a peaceful way of life...how dare they!
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    even if Jesus did walk on water and all that shit, he never played guitar like J Mascis or Mr. Mike McCready, so really how good could he be?



    i'm being quite serious.

    :D

    I saw Dinosaur J.R in London last week. They still have more hair on their proverbial balls than a woolly mammoth with Chewbacca swinging from it's dick!
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    miller8966 wrote:
    You act like jesus was so criminal or something. People trying to turn you on to a peaceful way of life...how dare they!


    Hmmmm......Jesus is not the problem, but the people who claim they "love" Jesus and know of his message. They are the problem.

    Most self-proclaimed Christians don't even have the slightest clue of Jesus' message. That much is obvious.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    miller8966 wrote:
    You act like jesus was so criminal or something. People trying to turn you on to a peaceful way of life...how dare they!


    Further more, this coming from a guy has often expressed and celebrated a desire to see Israel bomb the crap out of their Palestinian neighbors or any Muslims in general. Is that the peaceful way of life you speak of?
  • qtegirl
    qtegirl Posts: 321
    miller8966 wrote:
    You act like jesus was so criminal or something. People trying to turn you on to a peaceful way of life...how dare they!
    Sorry, but you don't have to believe in Jesus to have a peaceful way of life.

    Gandhi comes to mind.

    There is someone at my work, and evangelical christian, that believes the only path to heaven is through Jesus. The ONLY path. So, no matter how good, peaceful, moral, good-doer you are, if you don't accept Jesus as your "personal lord and savior", you are not saved.

    I have a problem with that. And I have a problem with a religion that preaches that no matter how good I am, I'm still going to hell because I didn't accept Jesus.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    qtegirl wrote:
    Sorry, but you don't have to believe in Jesus to have a peaceful way of life.

    Gandhi comes to mind.

    There is someone at my work, and evangelical christian, that believes the only path to heaven is through Jesus. The ONLY path. So, no matter how good, peaceful, moral, good-doer you are, if you don't accept Jesus as your "personal lord and savior", you are not saved.

    I have a problem with that. And I have a problem with a religion that preaches that no matter how good I am, I'm still going to hell because I didn't accept Jesus.

    Agree completely.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,830
    qtegirl wrote:
    Sorry, but you don't have to believe in Jesus to have a peaceful way of life.

    Gandhi comes to mind.

    There is someone at my work, and evangelical christian, that believes the only path to heaven is through Jesus. The ONLY path. So, no matter how good, peaceful, moral, good-doer you are, if you don't accept Jesus as your "personal lord and savior", you are not saved.

    I have a problem with that. And I have a problem with a religion that preaches that no matter how good I am, I'm still going to hell because I didn't accept Jesus.


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  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    qtegirl wrote:
    Sorry, but you don't have to believe in Jesus to have a peaceful way of life.

    Gandhi comes to mind.

    There is someone at my work, and evangelical christian, that believes the only path to heaven is through Jesus. The ONLY path. So, no matter how good, peaceful, moral, good-doer you are, if you don't accept Jesus as your "personal lord and savior", you are not saved.

    I have a problem with that. And I have a problem with a religion that preaches that no matter how good I am, I'm still going to hell because I didn't accept Jesus.

    But believeing in jesus is a good step toward a more peaceful life. Most christians are the nicest people ive met.
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    miller8966 wrote:
    But believeing in jesus is a good step toward a more peaceful life. Most christians are the nicest people ive met.
    I've got to hand it to you, you've got a point, here. Many people I know, they dislike the views, opinions and judgments of Christians. And yet, at the end of the day, most Christians that I know, in terms of their behaviour DO act in a reasonably solid, decent manner, quite consistently. They ARE nice!
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    angelica wrote:
    I've got to hand it to you, you've got a point, here. Many people I know, they dislike the views, opinions and judgments of Christians. And yet, at the end of the day, most Christians that I know, in terms of their behaviour DO act in a reasonably solid, decent manner, quite consistently. They ARE nice!
    Most are nice, some are not, and some are completely crazy .... just like any other group of people.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    angelica wrote:
    I've got to hand it to you, you've got a point, here. Many people I know, they dislike the views, opinions and judgments of Christians. And yet, at the end of the day, most Christians that I know, in terms of their behaviour DO act in a reasonably solid, decent manner, quite consistently. They ARE nice!

    Yes i agree 100%
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  • qtegirl
    qtegirl Posts: 321
    Well, most of the people I've ever met are nice. I think jerks are exceptions rather than the rule, for any type of people.

    When someone does something nice, my the first words out of my mouth are not "you're so nice, are you a Christian?"
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    hippiemom wrote:
    Most are nice, some are not, and some are completely crazy .... just like any other group of people.
    I agree.
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  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    angelica wrote:
    I've got to hand it to you, you've got a point, here. Many people I know, they dislike the views, opinions and judgments of Christians. And yet, at the end of the day, most Christians that I know, in terms of their behaviour DO act in a reasonably solid, decent manner, quite consistently. They ARE nice!


    Too bad he and others make a point about this and can't see that in the Muslims they put down daily. ;)
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    even flow? wrote:
    Too bad he and others make a point about this and can't see that in the Muslims they put down daily. ;)
    ;)
    evenflow, have I mentioned lately that you are just precious? And I miss your right-on-ness when I don't see you posting!
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  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    even if Jesus did walk on water and all that shit, he never played guitar like J Mascis or Mr. Mike McCready, so really how good could he be?



    i'm being quite serious.

    I think the question is how good would he have been if he had a Fender or a Gibson?
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