Was christianity a hoax?

the face
the face Posts: 192
edited February 2007 in A Moving Train
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  • dkst0426
    dkst0426 Posts: 523
    Class.
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Where do people find this crap? Seriously. Mainstream scholarly research coupled with scientific carbon dating of the gospels place them firmly within the timeframe of eyewitnesses. If you don't believe in the divinity of the historical Jesus, that is absolutely fine by me. All i ask is people please, please, please stop with this crap that even atheist scholars laugh at.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    cornnifer wrote:
    Where do people find this crap? Seriously. Mainstream scholarly research coupled with scientific carbon dating of the gospels place them firmly within the timeframe of eyewitnesses. If you don't believe in the divinity of the historical Jesus, that is absolutely fine by me. All i ask is people please, please, please stop with this crap that even atheist scholars laugh at.
    That seems like a perfectly reasonable request.

    I'm certainly no expert, but I did look into this some years back and it seemed to me that there was very little reason to doubt that the historical Jesus did exist. I'll leave the divinity aspect alone, but I don't think he's a work of fiction.

    Merry Christmas, cornnifer :)
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    hippiemom wrote:
    That seems like a perfectly reasonable request.

    I'm certainly no expert, but I did look into this some years back and it seemed to me that there was very little reason to doubt that the historical Jesus did exist. I'll leave the divinity aspect alone, but I don't think he's a work of fiction.

    Merry Christmas, cornnifer :)

    And a sincere Merry Christmas to you and your family as well, HM.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Oh I believe Jesus existed.

    But all the religions, in my opinion, are all hoaxes. it's a farce.
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    NMyTree wrote:
    Oh I believe Jesus existed.

    But all the religions, in my opinion, are all hoaxes. it's a farce.

    Do you believe in morals or integrity or anything like that..

    because those are beliefs - There is no scientific basis..

    Those are similarly hoaxes... Not nice to call what people belive in a hoax... we all have beliefs -
  • the face
    the face Posts: 192
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Do you believe in morals or integrity or anything like that..

    because those are beliefs - There is no scientific basis..

    Those are similarly hoaxes... Not nice to call what people belive in a hoax... we all have beliefs -


    That was a question. Not a statement.
  • brain of c
    brain of c Posts: 5,213
    still is.
    d'oh!!!!!!

    http://www.myspace.com/brain_of_c
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    cornnifer wrote:
    If you don't believe in the divinity of the historical Jesus, that is absolutely fine by me.

    Please provide just one piece of evidence that supports the 'historical Jesus'. Just one.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    the face wrote:
    http://www.mountainman.com.au/essenes/article_006.htm

    IMO: All religions are hoaxes, spirituality is a hoax.

    There is only one thing we should worship and it's the flying spaghetti monster. ;)
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    hippiemom wrote:
    I did look into this some years back and it seemed to me that there was very little reason to doubt that the historical Jesus did exist.

    Please provide one piece of evidence which supports the historical Jesus. This topic has already been discussed on the board and nobody could provide a single shred of evidence to support the view that Jesus existed when he is said to have done. Why is this nonsense continuing?
  • the face
    the face Posts: 192
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Please provide one piece of evidence which supports the historical Jesus. This topic has already been discussed on the board and nobody could provide a single shred of evidence to support the view that Jesus existed when he is said to have done. Why is this nonsense continuing?

    I actually found a subject that Byrnzie and I agree on! Actually the post was meant to spur debate about the underpinings of Christianity, not the life of Jesus. There is some historical evidence of Jesus. But it is very very scant. What is even more scant is the issue of who he was and what he really did. One has to look at when the New Testament was compiled and who compiled it and why.

    I was hoping to spur some true historical debate. But I now find myself on the same side of the coin as A and B. Funny how that happens....
  • the face
    the face Posts: 192
    pedia. I love this site. Here ya go. This is as close as one can get to the historical Jesus.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus and it aint much......
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    hippiemom wrote:
    That seems like a perfectly reasonable request.

    I'm certainly no expert, but I did look into this some years back and it seemed to me that there was very little reason to doubt that the historical Jesus did exist. I'll leave the divinity aspect alone, but I don't think he's a work of fiction.

    Merry Christmas, cornnifer :)

    even as an atheist i don't doubt the existence of jesus.
    hear my name
    take a good look
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    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • the face
    the face Posts: 192
    catefrances wrote:
    even as an atheist i don't doubt the existence of jesus.

    The question is really, to make it simple, did he really do all that shit that book said he did? Or was there something else really going on....
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    the face wrote:
    The question is really, to make it simple, did he really do all that shit that book said he did? Or was there something else really going on....

    and my answer would be no.
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    the face wrote:
    There is some historical evidence of Jesus. But it is very very scant.

    Please provide just one piece of evidence.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    the face wrote:
    The question is really, to make it simple, did he really do all that shit that book said he did? Or was there something else really going on....

    I'm curious... are you Jewish by any chance?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • the face
    the face Posts: 192
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Please provide just one piece of evidence.

    my post above. i said it was scant didn't I.
  • the face
    the face Posts: 192
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I'm curious... are you Jewish by any chance?

    im circumsized....does that count? im out. the face must sleep. happy israel bashing.

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