Police taser student at John Kerry Q&A

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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,857
    stu gee wrote:
    I thought the video was quite funny.
    fuck yeah.....i agree....

    if i were the cops i would have tased his dumbass once every 30 minutes....

    for about a month........hehehehe
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  • jeffbr
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    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    there's been thousands of situations/cases where someone's not creating a situation and gets tasered.... or much worse, get shot and killed. you're what you would call a pretty stupendous ignoramaus if you haven't figured that one out.

    Quit being such a dumbass. Are you not able to understand words you read? I specifically said I am outraged when cops abuse their positions. I don't want tasers used unecessarily. The disagreement in this thread is about whether this incident fits that category. I happen to think the punk got what he deserved. Others think the cops overstepped. Still others in this thread have the reading comprehension of junior high students and can't seem to follow along.
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    point in case, come to austin... i'll give you about 9 or so of these cases.

    hell, you wanna hear one different one? not exactly the same... but here's what happened. a few months ago we had a lot of rain here in austin... so some areas got pretty flooded. there was this hispanic lady who tried to pass a closed road with her child because of flooding. a sheriff caught her trying to pass so he took her in for putting her child in danger. guess how many years the judge wanted to give her? 10 years. fuckerifficabillysuperridiculous! good thing people protested and told the judge to get his head out of his ass... cause that's pretty messed up. so the judge reduced the sentence to something like 2 years probation and 10 years community service or something like that.

    i'll try to find you the link... it was kinda a long time ago... but i'll see if i can find it.

    Each one of your 9 cases will probably piss me off. I am glad the woman in the case above got a reduced sentence. It sounds like she was trying to protect her child rather than endanger it, may have made a bad decision or two, but that clearly shouldn't translate to 10 years in jail (or any time at all for that matter).

    Again, if this case was presented to me as a poor kid simply asking a question and getting tasered, I'd be pissed. But that is not what happened here. This was an obnoxious journalism student who wanted to promote himself and his website. He did. It worked. He can be happy because he got the attention he was looking for. The cops can be happy because they got to taser someone. I can be happy because it provided a little comic relief yesterday. It was a win/win/win situation!
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
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    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    fuck yeah.....i agree....

    if i were the cops i would have tased his dumbass once every 30 minutes....

    for about a month........hehehehe

    You sound like a really cool guy...
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  • 1970RR
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    jeffbr wrote:
    Quit being such a dumbass. Are you not able to understand words you read? I specifically said I am outraged when cops abuse their positions. I don't want tasers used unecessarily. The disagreement in this thread is about whether this incident fits that category. I happen to think the punk got what he deserved. Others think the cops overstepped. Still others in this thread have the reading comprehension of junior high students and can't seem to follow along.



    Each one of your 9 cases will probably piss me off. I am glad the woman in the case above got a reduced sentence. It sounds like she was trying to protect her child rather than endanger it, may have made a bad decision or two, but that clearly shouldn't translate to 10 years in jail (or any time at all for that matter).

    Again, if this case was presented to me as a poor kid simply asking a question and getting tasered, I'd be pissed. But that is not what happened here. This was an obnoxious journalism student who wanted to promote himself and his website. He did. It worked. He can be happy because he got the attention he was looking for. The cops can be happy because they got to taser someone. I can be happy because it provided a little comic relief yesterday. It was a win/win/win situation!
    Would it still be win/win/win if the kid had died?
    Tasers have killed over 70 people since 2000. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/specials/tasers/deaths.shtml

    I think that tasers have lulled the police into thinking it is completely safe and they are using it in situations that dont demand that kind of forceful reaction.
  • JamMastaE
    JamMastaE Posts: 444
    when the police stop upholding the constitution,when they have a blatant disregard for our rights then they become the "enemy".so you can either fight back or submit and become a slave of the police state.

    enjoy the fascism!!!


    FUCK THE POLICE!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • JamMastaE
    JamMastaE Posts: 444
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    fuck yeah.....i agree....

    if i were the cops i would have tased his dumbass once every 30 minutes....

    for about a month........hehehehe

    someone should taser your nut sack.ooops,i meant vagina.
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    jeffbr wrote:
    Quit being such a dumbass. Are you not able to understand words you read? I specifically said I am outraged when cops abuse their positions. I don't want tasers used unecessarily. The disagreement in this thread is about whether this incident fits that category. I happen to think the punk got what he deserved. Others think the cops overstepped. Still others in this thread have the reading comprehension of junior high students and can't seem to follow along.

    my issue is the criteria people are using to justify the tasering of this guy...

    it seems some, and I have to included you here, think that being a dick, or a tard, or bugging out or acting "way over the top" is enough to taser someone...

    yes, he was screaming and yelling. yes, he did not follow directions, however, for me, that does not justify the police putting hands on him, and then tasering him, while on the ground, subdued, with cops all over him...

    and some have said people "clapped" as he was lead away...I guess mob rule is in place... well they quickly became quiet when the tasering happened...

    listen, I understand what you're saying, and I see your point, I just respectfully disagree that he "had it coming"....heck, when the Code Pink ladies are spouting off, they drag them out and move on...perhaps precedent is set...taser anyone who won't stop talking....kinda scary, huh...
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    jeffbr wrote:
    Quit being such a dumbass. Are you not able to understand words you read? I specifically said I am outraged when cops abuse their positions. I don't want tasers used unecessarily. The disagreement in this thread is about whether this incident fits that category. I happen to think the punk got what he deserved. Others think the cops overstepped. Still others in this thread have the reading comprehension of junior high students and can't seem to follow along.



    Each one of your 9 cases will probably piss me off. I am glad the woman in the case above got a reduced sentence. It sounds like she was trying to protect her child rather than endanger it, may have made a bad decision or two, but that clearly shouldn't translate to 10 years in jail (or any time at all for that matter).

    Again, if this case was presented to me as a poor kid simply asking a question and getting tasered, I'd be pissed. But that is not what happened here. This was an obnoxious journalism student who wanted to promote himself and his website. He did. It worked. He can be happy because he got the attention he was looking for. The cops can be happy because they got to taser someone. I can be happy because it provided a little comic relief yesterday. It was a win/win/win situation!

    "Obnoxious" behavior or "promoting" oneself is not against the law. I don't agree with you that this is what the guy was doing, however, even it it was, the cops are way out of line. For you to say that these are the kinds of things that deserve arrest and tasing tells me you are as fascist as the pigs that administered the tasing.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    inmytree wrote:
    my issue is the criteria people are using to justify the tasering of this guy...

    it seems some, and I have to included you here, think that being a dick, or a tard, or bugging out or acting "way over the top" is enough to taser someone...

    yes, he was screaming and yelling. yes, he did not follow directions, however, for me, that does not justify the police putting hands on him, and then tasering him, while on the ground, subdued, with cops all over him...

    and some have said people "clapped" as he was lead away...I guess mob rule is in place... well they quickly became quiet when the tasering happened...

    listen, I understand what you're saying, and I see your point, I just respectfully disagree that he "had it coming"....heck, when the Code Pink ladies are spouting off, they drag them out and move on...perhaps precedent is set...taser anyone who won't stop talking....kinda scary, huh...

    That's cool. I also respect and completely understand your position. I have gone back and forth about this one. The reason I find myself on the other side of the issue at this point is that he wasn't merely tased for being obnoxious. He was asked to leave for being obnoxious. Once he started moving toward the front of the venue, the cops really started clamping down on him. Then he started thrashing around and resisting. He escalated it from a simple outburst like you mentioned with the Code Pink ladies to something involving a physical altercation. At that point all bets are off.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    gue_barium wrote:
    "Obnoxious" behavior or "promoting" oneself is not against the law. I don't agree with you that this is what the guy was doing, however, even it it was, the cops are way out of line. For you to say that these are the kinds of things that deserve arrest and tasing tells me you are as fascist as the pigs that administered the tasing.

    Ahh, Gue "Kop Killa" Barium also exhibits reading comprehension problems.
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    jeffbr wrote:
    Ahh, Gue "Kop Killa" Barium also exhibits reading comprehension problems.

    edit: "I happen to think the punk got what he deserved." -jeffbr, fascist
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  • inmytree
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    jeffbr wrote:
    That's cool. I also respect and completely understand your position. I have gone back and forth about this one. The reason I find myself on the other side of the issue at this point is that he wasn't merely tased for being obnoxious. He was asked to leave for being obnoxious. Once he started moving toward the front of the venue, the cops really started clamping down on him. Then he started thrashing around and resisting. He escalated it from a simple outburst like you mentioned with the Code Pink ladies to something involving a physical altercation. At that point all bets are off.

    I'm with you on this, he did thrash around and run from the cops...I've got to give you that one...sadly, it was a lose-lose situation...

    one good thing is, next week we'll have a new viral video to discuss...they seem to be coming out on mondays...miss SC, this smuck, what's next...?
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    gue_barium wrote:
    edit: "I happen to think the punk got what he deserved." -jeffbr, fascist

    Yes, Kop Killa, that was my quote. But where your reading comprehension fails you is that I don't think he deserved it for simply being obnoxious or self-promoting. I'll leave it as an exercise to you, dear Killa, to try to figure out what you're missing.
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  • know1
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    The guy was obviously there to cause a scene and be disruptive. He should have been removed. I do think the tazer was a bit much, but then again I think he would have kept on being disruptive until they eventually resorted to it anyway. Also, he was warned that they would tazer him and didn't stop resisting. He had this stunt planned all along.
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  • gue_barium
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    jeffbr wrote:
    Yes, Kop Killa, that was my quote. But where your reading comprehension fails you is that I don't think he deserved it for simply being obnoxious or self-promoting. I'll leave it as an exercise to you, dear Killa, to try to figure out what you're missing.

    Maybe you should try writing.

    The problem is, that there is absolutely no excuse for any sort of force at all in that scenario.

    I disagree with you that there was a reason for force, regardless.
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  • sweetpotato
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    Kerry Condemns Heckler Arrest
    Submitted by Jeff Tiedrich on Tue, 2007/09/18 - 12:55pm.
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    Sen. John Kerry on Tuesday comdemned the arrest of a University of Florida student at one of his speeches, saying that he was engaged in a "good healthy discussion" with 21-year-old Andrew Meyer when he was Tasered and taken into custody. "In 37 years of public appearances, through wars, protests and highly emotional events, I have never had a dialogue end this way," Kerry said in a statement.
    "Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."

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  • gue_barium
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    know1 wrote:
    The guy was obviously there to cause a scene and be disruptive. He should have been removed. I do think the tazer was a bit much, but then again I think he would have kept on being disruptive until they eventually resorted to it anyway. Also, he was warned that they would tazer him and didn't stop resisting. He had this stunt planned all along.

    He was asking questions. You and many others like you may not have liked the questions, but that was his right, and it was taken away from him by force.
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  • chromiam
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    know1 wrote:
    The guy was obviously there to cause a scene and be disruptive. He should have been removed. I do think the tazer was a bit much, but then again I think he would have kept on being disruptive until they eventually resorted to it anyway. Also, he was warned that they would tazer him and didn't stop resisting. He had this stunt planned all along.

    Agreed... the tasering was a bit much but when planning a stunt you have to expect some consequences.
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  • gue_barium
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    chromiam wrote:
    Agreed... the tasering was a bit much but when planning a stunt you have to expect some consequences.

    What was the stunt? Kerry wanted to answer the questions, apparently.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    gue_barium wrote:
    What was the stunt? Kerry wanted to answer the questions, apparently.

    Yes, and both times he tried to the kid would start yelling and screaming again.
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