Michael Vick

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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Well I think this shows how far from reality you're coming with this line of thinking.

    No businessman in their right mind would make a felon the center piece of their publicly run company. Not in something like sports where the media is all over it and viewers watch every aspect of the players on and off the field.

    It's all about business, image and results. Michael Vick has now black-listed himself in all 3 aspects and even if he's not given a lifetime ban from the NFL, no one will want to give him another chance cause it won't be worth it in any aspect.
    inmytree wrote:
    if he interviews well and can tow the company line, yes...
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,138
    Atomic Punk wrote:
    They get attention the legal system, just not the press. Don't assume that just because you are not seeing it or hearing it that it is not happening.

    I dont assume, and I follow some of it. The press affects the legal system, which is why I dont think Vick is getting a fair deal. Admitting a wrong usually brings a lighter sentence. Doesnt seem true here because of the spotlight.

    I dont know, there is just something about Vick's vilification that strikes me as scapegoating.
  • Rushlimbo
    Rushlimbo Posts: 832
    inmytree wrote:
    which makes you as bad as vick...he is accused of killing dogs who did not perform, and your pretty advocating the same...vick has not performed up to your standards, therefore you wish him dead, while drinking a beer...

    nice...

    Try your psychobabble somewhere else. Vick is a dispicable killer and deserves the same. Perhaps you can show him some compassion by making him a Build a Bear or some hand-holding bullshit but I think he wastes air with his breathing.
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  • Rushlimbo
    Rushlimbo Posts: 832
    g under p wrote:
    After saying that what makes you so much different than MV. He will suffer in many different ways for sure and rightfully so. If this gives you pleasure to vent this way well then pile it on. You appear to be as scary as he appears to be to those dogs.

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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    He's no scapegoat whatsoever. He's brought this all upon himself. He's in a high profile position and which the fame and good things he receives from it, if he does bad, it goes in hand.
    Get_Right wrote:
    I dont assume, and I follow some of it. The press affects the legal system, which is why I dont think Vick is getting a fair deal. Admitting a wrong usually brings a lighter sentence. Doesnt seem true here because of the spotlight.

    I dont know, there is just something about Vick's vilification that strikes me as scapegoating.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • JD Sal
    JD Sal Posts: 790
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Well I think this shows how far from reality you're coming with this line of thinking.

    No businessman in their right mind would make a felon the center piece of their publicly run company. Not in something like sports where the media is all over it and viewers watch every aspect of the players on and off the field.

    It's all about business, image and results. Michael Vick has now black-listed himself in all 3 aspects and even if he's not given a lifetime ban from the NFL, no one will want to give him another chance cause it won't be worth it in any aspect.

    Presently, it's difficult to think of MV coming back to the NFL and being the face of a franchise. He's going to have to attempt to repair his image, and who knows, maybe after he's served the time, and perhaps donated millions to animal rights groups and made whatever restitution possible, the public will be forgiving and grant him a 2nd chance. Only time will tell.
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  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    Meanwhile......


    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/08/22/bc.fbn.vick.dogs.ap/index.html
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Well I think this shows how far from reality you're coming with this line of thinking.

    No businessman in their right mind would make a felon the center piece of their publicly run company. Not in something like sports where the media is all over it and viewers watch every aspect of the players on and off the field.

    It's all about business, image and results. Michael Vick has now black-listed himself in all 3 aspects and even if he's not given a lifetime ban from the NFL, no one will want to give him another chance cause it won't be worth it in any aspect.

    you seem to like to speak for others...the nfl, businessmen and no one...

    I was asked a question and I answered...is it that hard to understand that no everyone feels like you do...?
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Try your psychobabble somewhere else. Vick is a dispicable killer and deserves the same. Perhaps you can show him some compassion by making him a Build a Bear or some hand-holding bullshit but I think he wastes air with his breathing.

    again, you are akin with vick in your thinking...nicely done...
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    And the NAACP steps into the ring, to offer up their two cents....


    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/22/vick/index.html
  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    NMyTree wrote:
    And the NAACP steps into the ring, to offer up their two cents....


    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/22/vick/index.html

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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    ESPN just posted this article and it pertains to many of the notions I previously mentioned. The Commish, Vick and his chance of playing in the future, but much is about the NFL as a whole compared to the players union.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=bryant_howard&id=2986420
    inmytree wrote:
    you seem to like to speak for others...the nfl, businessmen and no one...

    I was asked a question and I answered...is it that hard to understand that no everyone feels like you do...?
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Gotta love this... Somehow the NFL will be wrong for keeping Vick out? They're not stopping Vick from living, earning a wage or anything similar, they'll just be saying, " you broke rules, so you're out". How hard is that to comprehend?
    NMyTree wrote:
    And the NAACP steps into the ring, to offer up their two cents....


    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/22/vick/index.html
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,705
    oh i have a comment he should not be allowed to be on the NFL stage ever again oh wait did he come out and admitt guilt no he won't ever, just like OJ WILL NEVER EVER ADMITT TO ANY WRONG DOING or just like PETE ROSE he never admitted to betting on baseball to this day he hasn't .Maybe just maybe if he VIC showed some human remorse people would see him in a different light but that won't happen people on here act like he had a news confrence and admitted all the shit he did and was sorry for it if he did i missed it ............he probably believes that what he did was no big deal ........like i said the black community believe that dog fighting is a sanctioned sport morons ........
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  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    NMyTree wrote:
    And the NAACP steps into the ring, to offer up their two cents....


    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/22/vick/index.html

    Sadly, the R.L White of the NAACP decided to steal a page from Stephon Marbury's Book Of Stupidity and use the same mindless reasoning.......


    Stephon Marbury: " ..... said, I think, you know, we don't say anything about people who shoot deer or shoot other animals. You know, from what I hear, dogfighting is a sport. It's just behind closed doors.''



    R.L. White: " ......also said he didn't understand the uproar over dogfighting, when hunting deer and other animals is perfectly acceptable....
  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    NMyTree wrote:
    And the NAACP steps into the ring, to offer up their two cents....


    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/22/vick/index.html

    NAACP implies the playing of the race card. However the statements made by Mr. White do not directly discuss race. The word "persecuted" does not have to include racial overtones. He is being raked over the coals (rightly so, in mym opinion).

    As far as innocent people cutting deals, I don't think that is what happened here, but I am sure it has happened in history.

    As for as deer hunting...well that is just stupid. Any non-vegetarion cannot say shit about this. Hunting serves a purpose. Torturing animals is sick. It's not even close to the same thing.

    As for race: Playing that card would be bad. It's not why he is in trouble and any reasonable human being should get that. And while the story does not really discuss race, the fact that the attorney is from the NAACP will send that message regardless. Bad PR move.

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  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Gotta love this... Somehow the NFL will be wrong for keeping Vick out? They're not stopping Vick from living, earning a wage or anything similar, they'll just be saying, " you broke rules, so you're out". How hard is that to comprehend?

    The NAACP doesn't care about that. They're already laying the ground work for playing the race card.

    Although, they certainly were in favor of Imus getting fired, eh?

    See how that works?

    Stupid white guy (shock jock) makes dumbass comments in satire. They pushed for him to be fired.

    Stupid black guy tortures dogs, kills dogs and runs illegal dogfighting ring; he should be given a second chance.

    No double-standard at all:rolleyes:
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    NAACP implies the playing of the race card. However the statements made by Mr. White do not directly discuss race. The word "persecuted" does not have to include racial overtones. He is being raked over the coals (rightly so, in mym opinion).

    As far as innocent people cutting deals, I don't think that is what happened here, but I am sure it has happened in history.

    As for as deer hunting...well that is just stupid. Any non-vegetarion cannot say shit about this. Hunting serves a purpose. Torturing animals is sick. It's not even close to the same thing.

    As for race: Playing that card would be bad. It's not why he is in trouble and any reasonable human being should get that. And while the story does not really discuss race, the fact that the attorney is from the NAACP will send that message regardless. Bad PR move.

    (I have plagarized my page 6 post here)

    Correct.

    If you take a good look at many of the people publically defending Vick, there most certainly has been a very subtle implication or should I say suggestion of the race card. They've been very subtle with it. But watch, they (the NAACP, Marbury and so forth) will begin to play the race card in a very obvious and loud manner; if the NFL starts leaning towards banning Vick from the NFL.

    There's always the CFL, for Vick. If Canada will have him.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,138
    FiveB247x wrote:
    He's no scapegoat whatsoever. He's brought this all upon himself. He's in a high profile position and which the fame and good things he receives from it, if he does bad, it goes in hand.

    I agree with that.
    But should the legal penalty be harsher becuase he is in the spotlight?
    No, and that is whats happening. Im not defending his actions by the way, it turns my stomach. But how many times have you seen someone walk away from much more serious offenses against people? How many NFL players?
    If Ray Lewis can play than so should Vick. I dont care that lewis was acquitted. Its ok to play with guns and hang out with real gangsters, but hey dont touch our pets. Just hard to reconcile.
  • Rushlimbo
    Rushlimbo Posts: 832
    Michael Vick is a good man. This is what he likes to see happen to dogs.
    (Warning -- photo of a dog from a pit fight). Fuck Vick and his useless pathetic life. Second chance my ass.

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