Michael Vick

NMyTree

inmytree wrote:

yup, this is about right...

I do find it interesting that most hunting is seen as "hunting for food"...I contend the food part of hunting is a bonus...I say people hunt for the thrill...the food is a byproduct hunting...there is plenty of food available...in fact wild game can be purchased fairly easily...

http://gourmetfood.about.com/od/wheretobuygourmetfoods/tp/wildgameshop.htm

but that's another debate...

I wouldn't argue that point. Thus why I said hunters enjoy the hunt.

But the important point to remember is that most hunters stay within the parameters of the law and don't allow their primal urges to get a hold of them.

I'm not a hunter (although a gun owner). But I learned to hunt and search for food (grubs, berries...etc)for the sake of survival. if I'm ever stranded or in a situation where I need to hunt for food, I can survive.

Pacomc79

fanch75 wrote:

Vick isn't the type of quarterback that the Louisville offense was built around. It's odd to think of him running. It may be better without him, given the scheme. It'll be interesting for sure!

yeah Ideally, I think they'd love to have a mobile guy with better passing skills. Vick was the prototype but he's still short and never has been a great QB mainly because he was so good with his legs he never spent enough time learning an offense.

I think the wave of the Future is the semi or very mobile Ben Rothlisberger, Vince Young(a ways to go with the pass yet), Alex Smith, Tony Romo type where the QB is at home in the pocket, but can escape and has the speed for a first down. Defensive players are too Athletic for the Drew Bledsoes of the world. Mike rarely had good enough form to make an accurate throw, his fundamentals sucked, mostly because he was so athletic he got away with it until his 2 or 3rd year as a pro and that idiot Mora put him in that lame Maruichi/Knapp quasi west coast dink and dump system (all the while forgetting Warrick Dunn is a hell of a receiver but then Mike never went through his checks either)

That's why we were really hoping DJ Shockley would be #2 this year.

Pacomc79

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories/2007/08/23/vickdad_0824.html

This guy is a real winner. Wow. I guess there is problem #1 I guess if there is money to be made and you're a complete failure as a human being, there's always your sons misery to mooch on.

Pathetic, It's extremely unfortunate it's so easy to breed.

fanch75

Pacomc79 wrote:

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories/2007/08/23/vickdad_0824.html

This guy is a real winner. Wow. I guess there is problem #1 I guess if there is money to be made and you're a complete failure as a human being, there's always your sons misery to mooch on.

Pathetic, It's extremely unfortunate it's so easy to breed.

Wow, I can smell that one from here....

FiveB247x

Well on Monday, we'll find out what specifically Vick has pleaded guilty to as well as his sentencing. After that, it will be interesting to see what the state of Virginia plans to charge with. Obviously there's no double jeopardy, but several large charges could be applied.

Vick is gonna have a new number and colored jersey... Prisoner xxxxxx in an Orange jumpsuit.

Vedd Hedd

Why do people keep saying, "Mike Vick made a mistake."

He did not make a mistake.

Running a red light by accident, thats a mistake. Typing "misteak" instead of "mistake", thats a mistake. Putting on one black dress sock with one navy blue dress sock, mistake.

Michael Vick comitted multiple acts of felony over an ongoing 6-8 year period, and he did so knowing full well what he was doing was illegal. Dogfighting, illegal. Gambling, or funding gambling rings, illegal. Transporting dogs across state lines for purposes of dogfighting, illegal. Executing dogs for not performing well in dogfighting matches, illegal.

Those are not "mistakes". "Ooops, I accidentally did all these illegal activities for the last 7 years, my bad."

Also, outright lying to your boss, lying to your owner, coach, comissioner, fans, etc, not mistakes. They are lies. He intended to do it, knowing it was wrong and he could get caught.

Im fucking amazed that ANYBODY is actually defending this guy, or using this issue to further their own causes. Ont the other hand, I am amazed that is has gotten THIS much attention.

He should serve his time, be suspended, deal with the consequences of his actions, and be done with it. If, after that, he feels he can play football and some dumbass owner wasnt to take a huge risk on this guy, he can deal with the backlash from the fans.

But putting him in jail for life or banning him from football, thats not going to make me think that dogfighting is not a problem anymore.

callen

Vedd Hedd wrote:

Why do people keep saying, "Mike Vick made a mistake."

He did not make a mistake.

Running a red light by accident, thats a mistake. Typing "misteak" instead of "mistake", thats a mistake. Putting on one black dress sock with one navy blue dress sock, mistake.

Michael Vick comitted multiple acts of felony over an ongoing 6-8 year period, and he did so knowing full well what he was doing was illegal. Dogfighting, illegal. Gambling, or funding gambling rings, illegal. Transporting dogs across state lines for purposes of dogfighting, illegal. Executing dogs for not performing well in dogfighting matches, illegal.

Those are not "mistakes". "Ooops, I accidentally did all these illegal activities for the last 7 years, my bad."

Also, outright lying to your boss, lying to your owner, coach, comissioner, fans, etc, not mistakes. They are lies. He intended to do it, knowing it was wrong and he could get caught.

Im fucking amazed that ANYBODY is actually defending this guy, or using this issue to further their own causes. Ont the other hand, I am amazed that is has gotten THIS much attention.

He should serve his time, be suspended, deal with the consequences of his actions, and be done with it. If, after that, he feels he can play football and some dumbass owner wasnt to take a huge risk on this guy, he can deal with the backlash from the fans.

But putting him in jail for life or banning him from football, thats not going to make me think that dogfighting is not a problem anymore.

but but but...he found god.....that's enough for me....

Strangest Tribe

I'll be glad when this goes away. Mike Vick is another example of a minority athlete that is dumb as a fucking box of rocks that was given priviledges above others based solely on his ability to play football. How did this dumb ass graduate from any school?

I hope he rots in jail.

Vedd Hedd

Strangest Tribe wrote:

I'll be glad when this goes away. Mike Vick is another example of a minority athlete that is dumb as a fucking box of rocks that was given priviledges above others based solely on his ability to play football. How did this dumb ass graduate from any school?

I hope he rots in jail.

I dont think him being a minority has anything to do with him being dumb.

He's an idiot. But those who think people are dumb becasue they are minorities are idiots themselves.

Assholes come in every color, and there are PLENTY of white people involved in dogfighting.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

People have to realize the majority of human opinion rules. The majority of people have had a dog and considered it a part of the family. Dogs do have the mentality of a 5 yr old human after all.

Not too many people keep a deer, moose or bear , wild pig etc in the house, or can associate with them, train them, etc...

regardless... Dog's go back through several thousands of years of societal domestication.

Very few people in the world actively hunt or eat dogs as well.

Therein lies the obvious difference(s).

callen

Strangest Tribe wrote:

I'll be glad when this goes away. Mike Vick is another example of a minority athlete that is dumb as a fucking box of rocks that was given priviledges above others based solely on his ability to play football. How did this dumb ass graduate from any school?

I hope he rots in jail.

Dude..race has nothing to do with this...look at all the white hollywood star and starlettes....and also white athletes...not a color thing..hell look at our white administration if you want proof of idiots causing unnecessary killing and maiming...but that's another topic....

.....course I'd like to see him buttered up, add little seasoning and thrown into a ring of hungry pits bulls..but hey.....can see it now...homer pit bull....hmmmmmm tastes like chicken...hmmmmmmm.... (-:

Strangest Tribe

Vedd Hedd wrote:

I dont think him being a minority has anything to do with him being dumb.

He's an idiot. But those who think people are dumb becasue they are minorities are idiots themselves.

Assholes come in every color, and there are PLENTY of white people involved in dogfighting.

Sorry, I wasn't connotating racism with my comment. I guess that you could have some non-minority superstar athletes allowed to pass classes in college based on their ability to play sports. But I will say it's primarily white people that allow this to occur. We have to give the black people a dream and role model no matter how stupid they are.

But I guess you wouldn't understand because you are probably to busy trying to deny it's trulty a racial issue because it's terrible to be labeled a "racist" especially if you are white.

fanch75

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Vedd Hedd

Strangest Tribe wrote:

Sorry, I wasn't connotating racism with my comment. I guess that you could have some non-minority superstar athletes allowed to pass classes in college based on their ability to play sports. But I will say it's primarily white people that allow this to occur. We have to give the black people a dream and role model no matter how stupid they are.

But I guess you wouldn't understand because you are probably to busy trying to deny it's trulty a racial issue because it's terrible to be labeled a "racist" especially if you are white.

I am confused by your answer.

were you connotating racism? Yes. You implicated "another minority athlete". If you just thought he was dumb, you would simply say, "he is dumb." Not another minority athlete. the way you put it does have some prejudiced connotations. Perhaps you did not mean it that way, but thats what it implied.


My roomate in college was on the football team. he was a backup lineman, a few starts here and there. He was allowed to take his tests at different times than the rest of the class, and he was given tutors who wrote most of his papers, unless he was really interested in the class. Was he given special attention, sure. Oh, and he's white.

I really dont understand your last comment. Am I denying this is a race thing? Is that what you are asking?

I dont think race has anything to do with people being stupid, making stupid decisions, or doing criminal activity. I think its more socio-economic. And lack of guidance.

But I hope he gets the maximum sentence, because he comitted several felonies over the period of 6-8 years, and as a result, many dogs were killed, not just the ones he killed for inability to fight.

And raising those dogs to be killers is also unsafe for the community. Imagine if one of those dogs got loos and went after some little kid.

I dont understand your point.

mookie9999

Vedd Hedd wrote:

...and there are PLENTY of white people involved in dogfighting.

There are also plenty of white meathead football players attending school at colleges they wouldn't be admitted into even if they took the SAT's three times and were allowed to combine the scores.

Smellyman2

Michael is turning his life over to Jesus.

Always a good defense in DumbFukkistan

Vedd Hedd

mookie9999 wrote:

There are also plenty of white meathead football players attending school at colleges they wouldn't be admitted into even if they took the SAT's three times and were allowed to combine the scores.

I agree.

g under p

Smellyman wrote:

Michael is turning his life over to Jesus.

Always a good defense in DumbFukkistan

As I remember it we have a President, "The Decider", "The War President", who in his past found Jesus....??? If he can be given a second chance for his past addictions, drunk driving and other illicit acts. Well MV should be given that same second chance.

I believe he should be given a lifetime ban from the NFL and it will be given. However, the NFL's Labor Union will appeal and he'll be given a reinstatment around the year 2010 or 2011. Will he ever play again who knows but IF he stays very clean, gives back to the state of Virginia and the country then and only then may this be possible.

So just like our Commander and Chief can claimed he's turning his life over to Jesus or born again then MV can also make this claim.

Funny how people who have committed criminal acts always tend to claim they've found Jesus.

Peace

not4u

i can't believe i havn't posted in this thread yet.

He deserves jail time at least a year and a half. The man has proved to be a violent savage. what a fuckhole.
no sympathy.

Strangest Tribe

We are more likely to give a dumb underpriviledged black kid that can play ball every chance as opposed to giving a bright underpriviledged black kid a scholarship. This is especially true in the south where the dog fighting is more prevalent. Sure there are exceptions and we all hate to "generalize" but when it comes to percentages of minorities in sports (it isn't actually a reflection of our society is it?). If you are grasping at straws trying to figure out the whole "racism" structure then ask yourself why it is more blacks are in sports?

Whenever someone tries to answer this question they end up getting the "Jimmy the Greek" treatment. How dare we sound so "racist" when it is so taboo. We should be more intelligent and educated than to stoop so low.

So basically my point would be, you can take Vick from the ghetto but you can't take the ghetto from Vick even after pouring hundreds of millions of $$$$ in his lap. Same can be said for numerous other athletes whose skin color really doesn't make a difference....right?