Michael Vick

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jackwvuu
jackwvuu Posts: 42
edited August 2007 in A Moving Train
How screwed up do you have to be to make Marcus look like the good one? Also, how about Ricky Williams?
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  • Hartydog
    Hartydog Posts: 2,060
    Besides the future jail term it looks like his NFL career has a good chance of being over.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,229
    Get ready for the orange jumpsuit MV.

    Funny though that you can kill, maim bet on a dog and he'll get up to 20 years while a preacher's wife can can shoot and kill her husband and get out of jail in 6 MONTHS. Worse now she's seeking custody of her dead husband's kids, guess what she'll probably get them.

    Sad case of American justice.

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  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    Hartydog wrote:
    Besides the future jail term it looks like his NFL career has a good chance of being over.
    Sssshhhhh. I'm hoping to get someone to pick vick in tomorrow's fantasy draft...
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Hartydog wrote:
    Besides the future jail term it looks like his NFL career has a good chance of being over.
    The rumor is that his plea negotiations are slow because he wants word from the NFL on how any such bargain would effect his current contract and future prospects in the league.
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  • somebodyelsessky2020
    somebodyelsessky2020 Posts: 1,178
    he was never that good anyway. a good runner sometimes yeah but never was an accurate passer that could stay in the pocket and do what a real quarterback does. he was over paid over glorified and would have gotten critically injured on one of his runs and forced to retire anyway. as for the dog fighting. it's cruel sick shit and just shows what kind of animal he is. not a good role model to have around the nfl. they should drop him immediately he's worthless anyway.
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  • Hartydog
    Hartydog Posts: 2,060
    tybird wrote:
    The rumor is that his plea negotiations are slow because he wants word from the NFL on how any such bargain would effect his current contract and future prospects in the league.

    I've seen that. I've also heard the NFL plans on giving him no such indications whatsoever of what will happen until his deal is worked out.
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  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Hartydog wrote:
    I've seen that. I've also heard the NFL plans on giving him no such indications whatsoever of what will happen until his deal is worked out.
    I agree with their methods.......he is really backed into a corner....and I don't suspect that the NFL will be cutting him any deals. He has flushed his career and his God-given talent right down the drain.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,999
    this whole case is so wrong on so many levels.

    my first question is if you are going to be involved in some illegal shit, why would you name your enterprise "bad newz kennels"? thats totally stupid and is just begging for an investigation in my opinion. if you were just a breeder as they originally contended, why would you call it that? its like you are looking to adopt a dog, would the first place you look be called "bad newz kennels"

    assuming he is guilty, with all of the rest of the defendants copping pleas and all, this guy deserves whatever he gets. hopefully its the max. the judge said that he might not go with sentencing guidelines so the book might get thrown at mr. vick.

    lastly if the nfl lets this guy return, what does it say about its new conduct policy?
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  • harrymanback
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    reached a plea deal and is heading to the big house ... more details to come
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  • CorporateWhore
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    This just in:

    Vick pleads guilty

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  • mammasan
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    I had the misfortune of attending a dog fight when I was younger, about 19 yrs old. I knew nothing of the sport and didn't realize how brutal and inhumane it was. After the first bout the hung the losing dog. I felt fucking sick to my stomach. I left right away and that image of that poor animal jerking it's legs as it hung there where forever burned into my mind. I hope they throw the fucking book at Vick and his associates. I don't know how people can engage in such deprevity for their sick enjoyment.
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  • Flannel Shirt
    Flannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    He is a scumbag. He murdered animals, for the sake of fun and money.

    He should go to jail, the cocksucker. Really, what he did is evil. He bred and raised animals to fight to their deaths against other for the amusement of other humans, and tortured the ones to death (hang and drown) that couldnt perform for him.
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  • MasterFramer
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    and don't forget the electrocution and rape stands... Hope he gets "his" in prison.
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  • callen
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    mammasan wrote:
    I had the misfortune of attending a dog fight when I was younger, about 19 yrs old. I knew nothing of the sport and didn't realize how brutal and inhumane it was. After the first bout the hung the losing dog. I felt fucking sick to my stomach. I left right away and that image of that poor animal jerking it's legs as it hung there where forever burned into my mind. I hope they throw the fucking book at Vick and his associates. I don't know how people can engage in such deprevity for their sick enjoyment.
    Hope you made the anonymous call to the local authorities on the place you visited.....sick sick sick sick...course bull fightings no better....and accepted in many cultures....sick sick...humans suck.
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  • PaperPlates
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    g under p wrote:
    Get ready for the orange jumpsuit MV.

    Funny though that you can kill, maim bet on a dog and he'll get up to 20 years while a preacher's wife can can shoot and kill her husband and get out of jail in 6 MONTHS. Worse now she's seeking custody of her dead husband's kids, guess what she'll probably get them.

    Sad case of American justice.

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    Sad case of leaping to conclusions here pal. Vick hasnt been sentenced as far as I know. And "up to" 20 years RARELY ends up being 20 years. Especially for the wealthy. Vick probably won't even do time, and will even probably be playing again in a year or two. Just my guess.

    Also, Im sure the preachers wife you refer to could have gotten "up to" a lot more than she got.

    Sad case of ignorance of the American Justice System.
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  • Pacomc79
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    PaperPlates wrote:
    Sad case of leaping to conclusions here pal. Vick hasnt been sentenced as far as I know. And "up to" 20 years RARELY ends up being 20 years. Especially for the wealthy. Vick probably won't even do time, and will even probably be playing again in a year or two. Just my guess.

    Also, Im sure the preachers wife you refer to could have gotten "up to" a lot more than she got.

    Sad case of ignorance of the American Justice System.


    Federal cases require offenders to serve about 90% of thier sentence, he'll also be in medium security. This ain't no holiday inn.

    There is no guarentee he'll get the low end 1.5 years either, and likely he'll be suspended from the NFL indefinately.

    This is not the commissioner that let Leonard Little continue to play.
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  • PaperPlates
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    Pacomc79 wrote:
    Federal cases require offenders to serve about 90% of thier sentence, he'll also be in medium security. This ain't no holiday inn.

    There is no guarentee he'll get the low end 1.5 years either, and likely he'll be suspended from the NFL indefinately.

    This is not the commissioner that let Leonard Little continue to play.


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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    I am a diehard football and in most cases have agreed or stood by the NFL regarding player conduct. Michael Vick does not deserve a second chance whatsoever. He ran an illegal operation which killed and trained animals for gambling. Is there something I'm missing here? Just cause he can run fast, or throw a pass, does not give him exemption from US laws, NFL procedures and codes of conduct. Michael Vick should never be allowed to play in the NFL ever again - plain and simple. I'm no PETA fanatic but I find it hard for anyone to give valid, logical and rational explanation why this criminal should be given a 2nd chance whatsoever. If he does, I would be immensely disappointed in the NFL. Lastly, think to yourself, what kind of sick, cold human being (and I use that lightly) could/would kill dogs for some type of fun gambling venture? Seriously - how could anyone defend or want to back that - not to mention root for him in some fashion?
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
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    Any bets his career is pretty much over at this point?

    Lot's of dog owners out there that have dogs....this won't be forgotten for the rest of his life. It will follow him everywhere he goes. Kinda like OJ in a sense.

    This guy is one seriously sick and demented individual.
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