Petition: PUT AN END TO INFLATED PRICES AND SHADY BUSINESS PRACTICE (ITW vinyl, etc)

LeatherMandi wrote:

A show is different... theres a limitation...these are all things (posters, vinyls, ect) that can be mass produced, all that matters is the amount given to the company producing it..... i give up... i feel like im beating a dead horse here.



I just think things can be done differently. If everyone just sat back and said "hey, thats just how the world works! Get used to it!" women wouldnt be voting, black people would still be owned by white people and so on and so forth.

WOW!! the black/women reference is really off topic!! it is a record!!

and why is a 10c show any different? your thought process would in terms mean the same for a show!! give it up, the horse is dead

Kel Varnsen wrote:

It is different becuase even if Pearl Jam played the biggest stadium in the world and gave away tickets for free there would still probably be people who didn't get in. But there is nothing stopping them from printing enough records for everyone, I mean they obviously printed enough copies of Versus, since you don't hear people on the board being upset that they don't have versus on CD.

I think IMHO that we would have to be sure first that PJ Management had anything to do with the decision of how many of these were beeing printed.

Kel Varnsen wrote:

Coincidentally the poster books are still available from 10club, and there are none for sale on ebay. I think the moral of this story is, when you make something limited edition, and cheap when there is huge demand for it prices are only going to rise. 10 club can't really control the demand but they most certainly can control the supply.

Of course they can control the demand, by increasing the price, like they did with the poster book! From now on, everything limited edition should be expensive, even from 10C. That would solve everything! Like the poster book, there'd be no flipping.

It's not a coincidence at all. Generally, higher price = lower demand, right? Especially on a non-essential (I know, I know, you need this record!) item like this.

Would you all be happy if 10C raised their prices? Of course not. They could make unlimited supplies of everything, but how boring a place it would be if there weren't a few special things like this vinyl to make us happy...

most people bought this vinyl because they speculated it would be worth much more....they don't care about listening to it....they just want to make $$$$

a whole bunch of people bitchin about the eBay prices would never listen to it either.

half the peeps complaining I don't ever see in the vinyl threads and prob don't even own a turntable...

if you missed the sale..so what??? you'll get one soon. the regular edition is coming out...don't sweat it

sgossard3 wrote:

jeez... what have i created!?!

i think the main problem is everyone is breaking this shit down into very specific instances... its not about one poster... or one vinyl... or one show... i got into the vic... i got my copy of ITW... i usual get the 10C poster sales i really want... so yah... i just wanted to create a place to discuss the trend as a whole... which has really been a catalyst for a falling out amongst the PJ fans as a tight fan base... clearly this thread has only created more bad feelings... oops... time to go out and party for my birthday! be good to each other!

Yeah... everyone is just reaching really far out for a little inch... doesnt work out well in an intelligent discussion



HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! Hope its a blast:)

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

Wow, thats the worst comparison of ALL TIME!


Maybe if people spent time worrying about issues as important as abolishing slavery, or granting women the right to vote, as opposed to whining about an LP record, the world would be a better place.

That being said, I am gonna go donate some money to Amnesty International!

Does "worry about who makes it the farthest in American Idol" count?

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

Wow, thats the worst comparison of ALL TIME!


Maybe if people spent time worrying about issues as important as abolishing slavery, or granting women the right to vote, as opposed to whining about an LP record, the world would be a better place.

That being said, I am gonna go donate some money to Amnesty International!

I do believe, if anyone looks back on anything ive said, none of it was whining. So with that sir..... http://www.youkanfakoff.com/

nothing on the tv is good.. good thing I turned to channel pit..
so much better than tv.

I'll sign.....

I've decided to go back to my origins and just listen to the music.
PJ has a lot of things I like, and this isnt against them, this is my way of saying screw the people who buy things and inflate the price beyond belief.
I'll buy things at a resonable price.......everything else is now for the suckers!

I guess this means I'm an ex-sucker! feels good.

I know its addicting.......but at some point you look in your closet and then your wallet and say................................................somethings a miss.

If this isnt a problem for ya.......cool. More power to ya.
But buying an new LP from your favorite band should not mirror buying a classic 1930's LP.

I kind of also made this choice when I say people at concerts buying dozens of posters. They come in groups and then end up on ebay.....

Fustrating...

Kel Varnsen wrote:

there is nothing stopping them from printing enough records for everyone, I mean they obviously printed enough copies of Versus, since you don't hear people on the board being upset that they don't have versus on CD.

a band does not have a say in how many records are produced, unless its a "band release" such as the xmas singles etc. that is left up to the record companies. open your eyes about vinyl people, its a thing of the past. record companies dont want to lose money on boxes and boxes of unsold vinyls that are just sitting around. yes just about every record thats released still gets a vinyl release but its always limited. normally a run of say 5000 copies would be plently, it just so happends that fans of pearl jam, really have a thing for vinyl which makes it harder to come by. why are ten, vs and vitalogy lps still easily available? these records sold millions and millions of copies and would be most desirable for a casual pearl jam fan.

i know the original poster wasnt just talking about the itw vinyl, it was about much more. i wouldnt want to sign a petition (although i think i am by posting) to end super limited edition items because frankly i like them. i like when im lucky enough to get one and im pissed when i dont. like the saying goes, you win some you lose some.