Petition: PUT AN END TO INFLATED PRICES AND SHADY BUSINESS PRACTICE (ITW vinyl, etc)

Kilgore_Trout
Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
edited January 2008 in The Porch
Something needs to be done about whats going on... I have been aware for sometime of the unfairly inflated prices on posters and albums... I know its just a part of living in a consumer society... I know theres a lot of people who dont care and dismiss it by saying they dont care about posters or vinyl... but THIS IS A GROWING TREND! it is going to be everyones problem really soon and we need to as a fan base reach some sort of an agreement to put an end to these business practices... this is not an attack at the 10C! they go above and beyond all the time! for anyone to look past our own collective greed and blame them is ridiculous... The market is beginning to see just how greedy and stupid we can be with all thing PJ and they are going to accordingly raise their prices... soon ticket prices will be equally through the roof... put an end to record store owners immediately putting ITW vinyl on ebay instead of selling them at retail as they should! SIGN THIS PETITION SO 10C SEES HOW LARGE THIS PROBLEM IS!
"Senza speme vivemo in disio"

http://seanbriceart.com/
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  • SpokenJeremy
    SpokenJeremy Posts: 604
    One word.....CAPITALISM. It's the society in which we live. What do you expect 10C to do? People are still going to buy and resell no matter what as long as there is demand. The problem is 10C it's the people out there willing to consume and pay these prices.
    Intelligence is the key and she was locked out

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  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    PS- please dont share any "thats just the way it is" mentalities... the same used to apply to slavery...

    I wanna draw some serious attention to just how big this problem is becoming... to the fan base... to the people that decide how high these prices get... surely everyone must be sick of paying top dollar for pieces of paper and circles or plastic... well then... stop buying them at these high prices! i know its been said before! i know im beating a dead horse! theres just something about hearing about these records stores and ITW that really set me off today and made me realize how bad its become...

    WE NEED TO AGREE AS A FAN BASE TO QUIT BUYING THIS SHIT AT THESE HIGH PRICES... WE NEED TO QUIT OVERREACTED EVERY TIME SOMETHING GOES ON SALE...

    theres going to always be people out there looking to make a buck... it SHOULD NOT become the standard!
    "Senza speme vivemo in disio"

    http://seanbriceart.com/
  • Fahka
    Fahka Posts: 3,187
    TacoJammer wrote:
    One word.....CAPITALISM. It's the society in which we live. What do you expect 10C to do? People are still going to buy and resell no matter what as long as there is demand. The problem is 10C it's the people out there willing to consume and pay these prices.



    If its easily avaliable at a decent price through ten c in mass quantities... you WILL NOT see it on ebay. Do you ever see the pj socks on ebay? Of course not ;)



    *SIGNS PETITION* at least we can make it aware that this SUCKS ASS.
  • Fahka
    Fahka Posts: 3,187
    sgossard3 wrote:

    WE NEED TO AGREE AS A FAN BASE TO QUIT BUYING THIS SHIT AT THESE HIGH PRICES... !


    I agree. It will at least put all the ebay fucks in there place. I have never bought anything pj related from ebay. Always refused. It might suck not having something you really dig, but at the end of the day, you gotta have principles.
  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    youre right mandi... the problem could be instantly solved but 10C just making more of everything... but it would be nice to see a lil restraint from the fans as well... something shouldnt inflate in price 500% overnight... thats just pure laziness... it shows that you took no initiative to find a better price... i cant speak for everyone around here, but i for one dont have all sorts of money to throw around... i would atleast like to see something done to those record stores that are taking advantage of everyone... if theres anyone to trace or prove whats going on
    "Senza speme vivemo in disio"

    http://seanbriceart.com/
  • Fahka
    Fahka Posts: 3,187
    sgossard3 wrote:
    youre right mandi... the problem could be instantly solved but 10C just making more of everything... but it would be nice to see a lil restraint from the fans as well... something shouldnt inflate in price 500% overnight... thats just pure laziness... it shows that you took no initiative to find a better price... i cant speak for everyone around here, but i for one dont have all sorts of money to throw around... i would atleast like to see something done to those record stores that are taking advantage of everyone... if theres anyone to trace or prove whats going on



    well you have my word! Not just cuz im a struggling white woman in america either;)


    PEOPLE HAVE THE POWER, yo
  • boxwine_in_hell
    boxwine_in_hell Posts: 1,263
    TacoJammer wrote:
    One word.....CAPITALISM. It's the society in which we live. What do you expect 10C to do? People are still going to buy and resell no matter what as long as there is demand. The problem is 10C it's the people out there willing to consume and pay these prices.

    Exactly. Free market capitalism. The price is dictated by what the consumer is willing to pay. You don't like the price, don't buy it.
    one foot in the door
    the other foot in the gutter
    sweet smell that they adore
    I think I'd rather smother
    -The Replacements-
  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    boxwine_in_hell wrote:
    Exactly. Free market capitalism. The price is dictated by what the consumer is willing to pay. You don't like the price, don't buy it.
    i took economics 101... we all understand this... the problem is it continues to happen... and each time on more and more astronomical scales...

    THIS THREAD IS TO DRAWN ATTENTION TO A PROBLEM AND HOPEFULLY FIND A SOLUTION

    ebay is entirely democratic and entirely fuled by people... and which people in particular are buying these albums for $200? PJ fans (& stupid ones at that)... and where do alot of PJ fans hang out? here... im trying to educate the stupid... its a noble cause... stupid people need learning too!
    "Senza speme vivemo in disio"

    http://seanbriceart.com/
  • i am a target
    i am a target Posts: 808
    ever heard the expression a lesson in futility?
  • pj10alive42
    pj10alive42 Posts: 381
    sgossard3 wrote:
    i took economics 101... we all understand this... the problem is it continues to happen... and each time on more and more astronomical scales...

    THIS THREAD IS TO DRAWN ATTENTION TO A PROBLEM AND HOPEFULLY FIND A SOLUTION

    ebay is entirely democratic and entirely fuled by people... and which people in particular are buying these albums for $200? PJ fans (& stupid ones at that)... and where do alot of PJ fans hang out? here... im trying to educate the stupid... its a noble cause... stupid people need learning too!

    If you say you understand this...then how can you complain. You're trying to tell people NOT to buy things on ebay. The point of the free market society (which you say you understand) is to buy whatever the fuck you want if you have the means. If I have the money to buy it, I will...regardless of whether some fanatic interweb punk tells me I shouldn't.
    I'm trying to drink away the part of the day I cannot sleep away...
  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    doesnt anyone have a fuckin constructive thing to say?! this problem is being caused by the same people you sing along with at shows! i always thought because we shared a connection with a band of such strong integrity that maybe the fans had similar morals! maybe today was just the last straw but it really sickens me that we've let such a meaningful band and such meaningful music be reduced to nickles and dimes....

    ill get off my soap box... im just really... disappointed
    "Senza speme vivemo in disio"

    http://seanbriceart.com/
  • boxwine_in_hell
    boxwine_in_hell Posts: 1,263
    sgossard3 wrote:
    i took economics 101... we all understand this... the problem is it continues to happen... and each time on more and more astronomical scales...

    THIS THREAD IS TO DRAWN ATTENTION TO A PROBLEM AND HOPEFULLY FIND A SOLUTION

    ebay is entirely democratic and entirely fuled by people... and which people in particular are buying these albums for $200? PJ fans (& stupid ones at that)... and where do alot of PJ fans hang out? here... im trying to educate the stupid... its a noble cause... stupid people need learning too!

    Of course it's going to continue to happen but it's not a fixable problem under a free market society. Is a Van Gogh really worth $87 million? Is a Bentley worth $300 grand? If someone will pay it, it is. If someone wants to pay $200 for an album, you calling them stupid is not going to dissuade them from doing so in the future. In fact they might pay $300 out of spite for your insults.
    one foot in the door
    the other foot in the gutter
    sweet smell that they adore
    I think I'd rather smother
    -The Replacements-
  • bazzer
    bazzer Posts: 3,126
    LeatherMandi wrote:
    If its easily avaliable at a decent price through ten c in mass quantities... you WILL NOT see it on ebay. Do you ever see the pj socks on ebay? Of course not ;)
    I have many times seen things on ebay being bid on at crazy prices when they are still available at 10C. Do more fans know there's a tenclub.net or an ebay.com?
  • Fahka
    Fahka Posts: 3,187
    edited July 2012
    pj10alive42 wrote:
    If you say you understand this...then how can you complain. You're trying to tell people NOT to buy things on ebay. The point of the free market society (which you say you understand) is to buy whatever the fuck you want if you have the means. If I have the money to buy it, I will...regardless of whether some fanatic interweb punk tells me I shouldn't.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    john hancock
  • Fahka
    Fahka Posts: 3,187
    bazzer wrote:
    I have many times seen things on ebay being bid on at crazy prices when they are still available at 10C. Do more fans know there's a tenclub.net or an ebay.com?



    Ive never witnessed that to be honest with you.... so i cant really comment
  • bazzer
    bazzer Posts: 3,126
    sgossard3 wrote:
    doesnt anyone have a fuckin constructive thing to say?! this problem is being caused by the same people you sing along with at shows! i always thought because we shared a connection with a band of such strong integrity that maybe the fans had similar morals! maybe today was just the last straw but it really sickens me that we've let such a meaningful band and such meaningful music be reduced to nickles and dimes....

    ill get off my soap box... im just really... disappointed
    So, who gets the limited copies of ITW vinyl (for example)? Who decides if not the market? Does no one get them?
  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    bazzer wrote:
    So, who gets the limited copies of ITW vinyl (for example)? Who decides if not the market? Does no one get them?
    id just like to see people be able to get them for what they were meant to be sold... at least in the initial weeks or months of the sale... im not saying that inflation wont happen... its natural with time... but it should not be happening the way it is these days... jumping 600-800% overnight...

    i got into this band because they stood for something... and that has been one of the few constants over the years... i guess i thought alot of fans felt the same way... thats why ive always been drawn to coming back here... the more i read what some people have to say though the more i feel like no one gives a shit anymore... this inflation thing is just a piece of a much larger puzzle... even if this band is still the same, the atmosphere sure isnt...

    i dont know why im just realizing this now... its probably a combination of other things going on in my life... i dont mean to vent here...
    "Senza speme vivemo in disio"

    http://seanbriceart.com/
  • edderlyj
    edderlyj Posts: 72
    i can haz pj sox now? let me show you them.

    really, the freemarket makes me a happy little virgin with poor circulation in my legs. and as long as I keep getting credit cards in the male, the market remains FREEEEEEE, YAAAAy.
  • Fahka
    Fahka Posts: 3,187
    sgossard3 wrote:
    id just like to see people be able to get them for what they were meant to be sold... at least in the initial weeks or months of the sale... im not saying that inflation wont happen... its natural with time... but it should not be happening the way it is these days... jumping 600-800% overnight...

    i got into this band because they stood for something... and that has been one of the few constants over the years... i guess i thought alot of fans felt the same way... thats why ive always been drawn to coming back here... the more i read what some people have to say though the more i feel like no one gives a shit anymore... this inflation thing is just a piece of a much larger puzzle... even if this band is still the same, the atmosphere sure isnt...

    i dont know why im just realizing this now... its probably a combination of other things going on in my life... i dont mean to vent here...



    You shouldnt feel guilty about venting here:) you have every right to be questioning whats going on. Trust me, you are not the only one who has felt the "shift"

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