Gay Marriage Ban

catefrances

usamamasan1 wrote:

I thought gay way biological?

it is... whats your point?

keeponrockin

pandora wrote:

usamamasan1 wrote:

I agree with Pandora. That's how it will play out too. Not a touch of hate or inequality in the belief either.

If you see it, that's on you.

exactly ... who's hating here!

Most of the preservers of marriage do not hate, everyone wants a resolution.

I totally get why the law went through, not to keep gay people from their rights nor
from their unions, but to preserve the tradition, the history, the defintion of why the word
marriage was created a union of a man and a woman.

Change can come now even with this President, well if he hurries just kidding
we need a new word, a new definition and equal rights for all unions!

Weren't the people who banned interracial marriage saying the exact same thing?

usamamasan1

Apples and oranges

catefrances

pandora wrote:

...
I totally get why the law went through, not to keep gay people from their rights nor
from their unions, but to preserve the tradition, the history, the defintion of why the word
marriage was created a union of a man and a woman...

ever asked yourself why?

MayDay10

I cant believe people are bent over calling a gay marriage by the term 'marriage'.

A fucking joke. 2012. Stop regressing society. The term means whatever our growth as a people and as a society says it means. We are supposed to be the free, open-minded progressive nation, but certain things hold us back.

It doesnt threaten anyone's existing heterosexual marriage (which odds say will be divorced within 5 years anyway).

josevolution

So because something has been in place for a thousand yrs it should not be changed or adjusted to reflect the times we live in now 2012 .... :fp: :fp:

keeponrockin

usamamasan1 wrote:

Apples and oranges

How so?

catefrances

MayDay10 wrote:

I cant believe people are bent over calling a gay marriage by the term 'marriage'.

A fucking joke. 2012. Stop regressing society. The term means whatever our growth as a people and as a society says it means. We are supposed to be the free, open-minded progressive nation, but certain things hold us back.

It doesnt threaten anyone's existing heterosexual marriage (which odds say will be divorced within 5 years anyway).

total agreeance. :thumbup:

josevolution

usamamasan1 wrote:

Apples and oranges

Liberal & Conservative

Godfather.

:fp: here we go again,same ol' debate same ol' out-come we all know where each other stand and we know we can't change each others minds so there is no reason to call each other names...am I right ?
"give me an AHMEN ! brothers and sisters" and lets go back to trashing politicans and such insted of each other....come on now ..let's play nice.

Godfather.

MayDay10

josevolution wrote:

So because something has been in place for a thousand yrs it should not be changed or adjusted to reflect the times we live in now 2012 .... :fp: :fp:

they threw Galileo in prison for daring to challenge the fact that the Earth moved and that it wasnt the center of the universe.

pandora

catefrances wrote:

excuse me but i dont give a fuck about thousands of years of tradition when it discriminates. and discriminitory tradition is DEvolution. oh and i think your theory is incorrect. gays want to be able to say theyre married just like the straights. any other label highlights a difference. we can call it a union(or whatever frothy name you thinks appropriate pandora) but its not a real marriage is it?

The word marriage is and was created for a man and woman union it does not discriminate.
The word by definition does not apply. And you may not care about history but many people do.
Of course a gay union called _ _ _ _ _
will have the exact same meaning and rights as a marriage between a man and a woman


Can you not see into the future cate I thought more of you than that
it will be a beautiful word, many unions, much happiness and peace.

Cliffy6745

Godfather. wrote:

:fp: here we go again,same ol' debate same ol' out-come we all know where each other stand and we know we can't change each others minds so there is no reason to call each other names...am I right ?
"give me an AHMEN ! brothers and sisters" and lets go back to trashing politicans and such insted of each other....come on now ..let's play nice.

Godfather.

And sooner or later, it won't matter because everyone will have the same rights and will be allowed to marry. Even the republicans in NC said yesterdays amendment would be repealed within 20 years.

Here's to sooner rather than later.

On that note, I'm out. I'll sit on the sidelines while the good guys win this one.

the wolf

josevolution wrote:

usamamasan1 wrote:

Apples and oranges

Liberal & Conservative

Right and Wrong


Tolerance and Bigotry.

catefrances

pandora wrote:

catefrances wrote:

excuse me but i dont give a fuck about thousands of years of tradition when it discriminates. and discriminitory tradition is DEvolution. oh and i think your theory is incorrect. gays want to be able to say theyre married just like the straights. any other label highlights a difference. we can call it a union(or whatever frothy name you thinks appropriate pandora) but its not a real marriage is it?

The word marriage is and was created for a man and woman union it does not discriminate.
The word by definition does not apply. And you may not care about history but many people do.
Of course a gay union called MARRIAGE_ _ _ _ _
will have the exact same meaning and rights as a marriage between a man and a woman


Can you not see into the future cate I thought more of you than that
it will be a beautiful word, many unions, much happiness and peace.

it discriminates now. it discriminates cause a gay man doesnt fall in love with a woman. the person he falls in love with he can never marry cause its not allowed and if it ever is you want it called something else because why again...?

catefrances

pandora wrote:

...
Can you not see into the future cate I thought more of you than that ..

i dont care what you think of me pandora. more or less i couldnt give a fuck.

pandora

keeponrockin wrote:

pandora wrote:

usamamasan1 wrote:

I agree with Pandora. That's how it will play out too. Not a touch of hate or inequality in the belief either.

If you see it, that's on you.

exactly ... who's hating here!

Most of the preservers of marriage do not hate, everyone wants a resolution.

I totally get why the law went through, not to keep gay people from their rights nor
from their unions, but to preserve the tradition, the history, the defintion of why the word
marriage was created a union of a man and a woman.

Change can come now even with this President, well if he hurries just kidding
we need a new word, a new definition and equal rights for all unions!

Weren't the people who banned interracial marriage saying the exact same thing?

No that was based clearly on race not gender
so it didn't apply
the term marriage was created thousands of years ago for the union of a man and woman
no matter the race.

The preservers of marriage want to preserve the definition,
tradition and history as to why is was created as it was intended.

Not hinder those who wish to be in a union or have equal rights. This the key.

MayDay10

Here is a definition:


prog·ress (prgrs, -rs, prgrs)
n.
1. Movement, as toward a goal; advance.
2. Development or growth: students who show progress.
3. Steady improvement, as of a society or civilization: a believer in human progress. See Synonyms at development.
4. A ceremonial journey made by a sovereign through his or her realm.
intr.v. pro·gress (pr-grs) pro·gressed, pro·gress·ing, pro·gress·es
1. To advance; proceed: Work on the new building progressed at a rapid rate.
2. To advance toward a higher or better stage; improve steadily: as medical technology progresses.
3. To increase in scope or severity, as a disease taking an unfavorable course.

polaris_x

hey ... let's preserve the tradition of sending prisoners into arenas so they can fight for their lives against hungry lions ... i mean ... it's been around for thousands of years!! ... while we're at it ... let's keep black people on the back of the bus and keep women from voting!

:fp:

polaris_x

while we're at it ... someone show me the OFFICIAL definition of marriage ... cuz obviously, showing that one respected dictionary sources that says it can be same sex is not valid ... there must be a definitive source from those thousand years ago where everything was cast in stone! ... :fp: