This is just fucking stupid. Go out and save a tree or something. All this over a fucking eBay listing? You people should be ashamed of yourself. :roll:
Silver, congrats on the signed set. After this crap, you deserve to own it! You are owed an apology from a couple of people, and the scary thing is that they have no clue.
The person who truly owes silver39 an apology the most is the person who stole her avatar for his auction.
Roll your eyes all you want... that's why people get away with shit like that because no one wants the trouble to hold them responsible.
Like I said earlier, flipping is an entire another argument here - the issue was HIS behavior towards other including letting silver39 take the heat when he could have stepped up to clear the air.
It's clear that he will never come here and apologize to silver39, so.... yeah, this is now getting nowhere.
I however have filed complaints with ebay, reporting him and provided them with information they needed to investigate this.
There's nothing else we can do from here and I can only hope one of these days he will come around and apologize for what he did.
I wonder if the mods have taken the time to read this thread and seem has it's unfolded- or even if they care?
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This is just fucking stupid. Go out and save a tree or something. All this over a fucking eBay listing? You people should be ashamed of yourself. :roll:
Silver, congrats on the signed set. After this crap, you deserve to own it! You are owed an apology from a couple of people, and the scary thing is that they have no clue.
The person who truly owes silver39 an apology the most is the person who stole her avatar for his auction.
Roll your eyes all you want... that's why people get away with shit like that because no one wants the trouble to hold them responsible.
Like I said earlier, flipping is an entire another argument here - the issue was HIS behavior towards other including letting silver39 take the heat when he could have stepped up to clear the air.
It's clear that he will never come here and apologize to silver39, so.... yeah, this is now getting nowhere.
I however have filed complaints with ebay, reporting him and provided them with information they needed to investigate this.
There's nothing else we can do from here and I can only hope one of these days he will come around and apologize for what he did.
What are the 'detectives' achieving trying to 'out' whoever is selling this signed box? All assumptions and finger pointing. Two people have already been 'accused'... Not cool.
Who cares about the identity of the seller? Should it be someone posting here, maybe he/she doesn't want people to know and admit it (maybe even fibbing a bit about it), knowing the reaction of certain posters.
This is like a witch hunt. Why not just let it be?
Hey redrock! I've enjoyed reading your posts in the past.
We both have different opinions on this situation.
What I am seeing is two people playing a not so nice game with other PJ fans - as you could see in one post where one bid was jacked up way too high so fast.
sliver39 had this ebay pic in her avatar and 36 year old PJ addicted used his ebay account to do this.
That is NOT cool at all.
If it was just about "music" they cared about - they wouldn't be doing this in the first place, would they?
Would one purchase a $140 SDE if it was just about "music"? No, it was a hope of obtaining an autographed set from the band they LOVE, not sell for profit.
We all know where the band stands on this, do we? Or am I wrong about this? I am not always right, so please do share with me and educate me on this.
In this case, I see it as holding them accountable for lying to us and explain their actions. You may not think so and let them be...
But if one doesn't have a problem selling items, then they should be honest and face the hostility of others. We also expect eBay sellers to be honest, don't we? Why does one - whether a 10c member/eBay seller - feel the need to lie about the products they're selling? That does not make sense to me at all.
I was even prepared for the flaming when I almost decided to sell my Benayora Hall LP. I was not going to lie about it at all.
I know we don't agree on this and we could argue all day about this. But I think it's safe to say 10c does not support this and we as fans should support this by ensuring other fans do not get screwed.
That said, I am very disappointed in 36 year old PJ Addict and sliver39. I do not respect liars.
Shame on you and you are cowards for not being honest.
Pretty impressive stuff. Nice witch hunt. Hope you guys never do anything wrong.....
Everybody made a movie....
Everybody had a one line.....
Everybody misses Andy....
We'll be seeing him in no time.... Oh Yeah.....
What he did illegal on ebay was being dishonest about items he was selling. He claims to be very honest about his items, which is clearly not true.
We expect sellers to be honest about their products or items they are selling. Also his behavior here demonstrates his inability to resolve problems, as well as his responses to people.
I am not perfect and I have done things wrong...but I would not be afraid to hold myself responsible for my actions.
And I have.
JA: Why do I get the Ticketmaster question?
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII
Pretty impressive stuff. Nice witch hunt. Hope you guys never do anything wrong.....
oh dont turn it around on anyone... i see your side of this as well as the other and im pretty indifferent to the whole thing... but its pretty evident to me that the "detectives" in this thread had only good intentions... a little overzealous? maybe... what the ebay guy did was clearly wrong though... i would think that reporting his wrongdoings to the ebay people would be enough revenge... but its understandable why "i am mine" had "silver"s back... but if it werent the norm to attack people for ebay auctions around here then "silver" wouldnt be in the hot seat in the first place... so maybe thats the behavior we should be worried about... an apology wouldve been nice in this situation but in an imperfect world i think its naive to expect that... lets give it up now... maybe ebay or the mods will take care of things
Somebody should apologize to Silver.... or be banned for dragging said person through the mud when they did absolutely no wrong.
It sounds to me like a couple are real bitter about not getting a signed box set. And this is the way the go about making it right? This is beyond childish. Reminds me of some 16 year old boyfriend/girlfriend type shit.
He said/she said.....
Let it go.... It ain't none of our business anyway. If the 10Club wants to deal with it, they will.
I would have not gotten half of my Pearl jam collection if it wasn't for eBay.
Everybody made a movie....
Everybody had a one line.....
Everybody misses Andy....
We'll be seeing him in no time.... Oh Yeah.....
What he did illegal on ebay was being dishonest about items he was selling. He claims to be very honest about his items, which is clearly not true.
We expect sellers to be honest about their products or items they are selling. Also his behavior here demonstrates his inability to resolve problems, as well as his responses to people.
I am not perfect and I have done things wrong...but I would not be afraid to hold myself responsible for my actions.
And I have.
How was he dishonest about?
Did the dishonesty come before or after the Magnum PI work?
I love the drama when this thread pops up........it should be called "As The Signed Deluxe Box on Ebay Turns"
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Atlanta Sept 22, 2012
Missoula Sept 30, 2012
Wrigley Field July 19, 2013
Portland Nov 29, 2013
Spokane Nov 30, 2013
Vancouver Dec 4, 2013
Seattle Dec 6, 2013
Tulsa Oct 8, 2014
This is just fucking stupid. Go out and save a tree or something. All this over a fucking eBay listing? You people should be ashamed of yourself. :roll:
Silver, congrats on the signed set. After this crap, you deserve to own it! You are owed an apology from a couple of people, and the scary thing is that they have no clue.
The person who truly owes silver39 an apology the most is the person who stole her avatar for his auction.
Roll your eyes all you want... that's why people get away with shit like that because no one wants the trouble to hold them responsible.
Like I said earlier, flipping is an entire another argument here - the issue was HIS behavior towards other including letting silver39 take the heat when he could have stepped up to clear the air.
It's clear that he will never come here and apologize to silver39, so.... yeah, this is now getting nowhere.
I however have filed complaints with ebay, reporting him and provided them with information they needed to investigate this.
There's nothing else we can do from here and I can only hope one of these days he will come around and apologize for what he did.
The person who truly owes Silver an apology is you. No if's and's or but's about it. Your super sleuth skills have let you down, and in turn, this travesty insued.
What is the person auctioning off the box really has one? Then it is a whole new can of worms for you....
Everybody made a movie....
Everybody had a one line.....
Everybody misses Andy....
We'll be seeing him in no time.... Oh Yeah.....
The person who truly owes Silver an apology is you. No if's and's or but's about it. Your super sleuth skills have let you down, and in turn, this travesty insued.
What is the person auctioning off the box really has one? Then it is a whole new can of worms for you....
Oh, I already apologized to sliver39.
Even if he really had one, I'd still expect him to be honest about it and apologize to silver39 about the stolen picture. He shouldn't have sat back and let silver39 take the heat. He should have stepped up and take it all upon himself, if he truly didn't have a problem selling it and caring what others thought. I wouldn't have been in here that much if that were the case - "Sorry I fucked up - I shouldn't have took her picture, my bad" ... "Yeah, I"m selling my signed SDE - so what? Do you want it or not?" I wouldn't like it but at least he'd be honest about it.
I understand people may have different opinion of me since I persisted here because what he did was wrong and should be held responsible.
I really have issues with people who lie, keep denying and getting away with it. I've been fucked by them and it almost always make me to be the bad person because I keep going after them to get the truth out.
Just be honest - why is that so hard?
JA: Why do I get the Ticketmaster question?
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII
The person who truly owes Silver an apology is you. No if's and's or but's about it. Your super sleuth skills have let you down, and in turn, this travesty insued.
What is the person auctioning off the box really has one? Then it is a whole new can of worms for you....
Oh, I already apologized to sliver39.
Even if he really had one, I'd still expect him to be honest about it and apologize to silver39 about the stolen picture. He shouldn't have sat back and let silver39 take the heat. He should have stepped up and take it all upon himself, if he truly didn't have a problem selling it and caring what others thought. I wouldn't have been in here that much if that were the case - "Sorry I fucked up - I shouldn't have took her picture, my bad" ... "Yeah, I"m selling my signed SDE - so what? Do you want it or not?" I wouldn't like it but at least he'd be honest about it.
I understand people may have different opinion of me since I persisted here because what he did was wrong and should be held responsible.
I really have issues with people who lie, keep denying and getting away with it. I've been fucked by them and it almost always make me to be the bad person because I keep going after them to get the truth out.
Just be honest - why is that so hard?
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LOL.....................this shit is too funny. Since when cant you copy a pic of someones avatar??? People on here need to get a job or relationship. I understand people not liking stupid dishonest people but that is like 60% of the masses.............hahahaha. I hope people are getting paid for their time invested in investigating dishonest people Prepare to lose your hair if you plan on being the judge of dishonesty. I understand being pissed and disgusted with this dishonesty but is hardly worth the effort. good luck in your endeavers.
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Do me a favor.....I dont feel like reading thru 15 pages....
Can you please explain quickly what exactly happened here that has YOU and a few others all riled up????
Was it just the fact that someone tried to sell a signed copy??? Or is there more to it???
And if there is more to it.....can you please give me the condensed version????
Thank you........
np, mr flipper, i mean speedy mccready.
glad you made the party.
see you are only pointing fingers at me, and not IamMine or silver39, who the flipper used in this entire thread has been bashing & making fun off.
heheheheheheheheheheheh
i think you don't know who you are talking to
so go back fipping those posters
thank you!
heheheheheheheheheh
Demetrios....
Please explain WTF this response of yours is all about....
Im kind of lost here....
I asked a simple question.....right????
Wtf are you talking about "pointing fingers at you"
all I did was ask you a simple fucking question.....right???
I asked if you could please explain this thread to me....right???
Why the fuck did you give me this bizarre, strange, weird fucking response????
I dont get it...........
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2004: Kissimmee
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2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
2022: Nashville
2023: Ft. Worth II
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Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
What did he do that's illegal by ebay standards?
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Pretty impressive stuff. Nice witch hunt. Hope you guys never do anything wrong.....
Everybody had a one line.....
Everybody misses Andy....
We'll be seeing him in no time.... Oh Yeah.....
We are Red, we are White, we are Danish Dynamite!
We expect sellers to be honest about their products or items they are selling. Also his behavior here demonstrates his inability to resolve problems, as well as his responses to people.
I am not perfect and I have done things wrong...but I would not be afraid to hold myself responsible for my actions.
And I have.
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII
http://seanbriceart.com/
Somebody should apologize to Silver.... or be banned for dragging said person through the mud when they did absolutely no wrong.
It sounds to me like a couple are real bitter about not getting a signed box set. And this is the way the go about making it right? This is beyond childish. Reminds me of some 16 year old boyfriend/girlfriend type shit.
He said/she said.....
Let it go.... It ain't none of our business anyway. If the 10Club wants to deal with it, they will.
I would have not gotten half of my Pearl jam collection if it wasn't for eBay.
Everybody had a one line.....
Everybody misses Andy....
We'll be seeing him in no time.... Oh Yeah.....
We are Red, we are White, we are Danish Dynamite!
How was he dishonest about?
Did the dishonesty come before or after the Magnum PI work?
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Several examples:
Look early in the thread where he was playing along as if it wasn't his auction. That's dishonesty.
Using someone else's picture to describe his item. that's dishonesty.
When someone else asked him about his item being taken down, he lied about the reason why he took it down. That's dishonesty.
I'm not sure I understand the question.
Can you explain more? Thanks.
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII
Bump to the Box
Seattle Sept 21 & 22 2009
Portland Sept 26, 2009
Madison Square Garden May 20 & 21, 2010
Bridge School Oct 23 & 24, 2010
Alpine Valley - PJ20 Sept 3 & 4, 2011
DeLuna Sept 21, 2012
Atlanta Sept 22, 2012
Missoula Sept 30, 2012
Wrigley Field July 19, 2013
Portland Nov 29, 2013
Spokane Nov 30, 2013
Vancouver Dec 4, 2013
Seattle Dec 6, 2013
Tulsa Oct 8, 2014
The person who truly owes Silver an apology is you. No if's and's or but's about it. Your super sleuth skills have let you down, and in turn, this travesty insued.
What is the person auctioning off the box really has one? Then it is a whole new can of worms for you....
Everybody had a one line.....
Everybody misses Andy....
We'll be seeing him in no time.... Oh Yeah.....
We are Red, we are White, we are Danish Dynamite!
Oh, I already apologized to sliver39.
Even if he really had one, I'd still expect him to be honest about it and apologize to silver39 about the stolen picture. He shouldn't have sat back and let silver39 take the heat. He should have stepped up and take it all upon himself, if he truly didn't have a problem selling it and caring what others thought. I wouldn't have been in here that much if that were the case - "Sorry I fucked up - I shouldn't have took her picture, my bad" ... "Yeah, I"m selling my signed SDE - so what? Do you want it or not?" I wouldn't like it but at least he'd be honest about it.
I understand people may have different opinion of me since I persisted here because what he did was wrong and should be held responsible.
I really have issues with people who lie, keep denying and getting away with it. I've been fucked by them and it almost always make me to be the bad person because I keep going after them to get the truth out.
Just be honest - why is that so hard?
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STB4s7Qhf40
LOL.....................this shit is too funny. Since when cant you copy a pic of someones avatar??? People on here need to get a job or relationship. I understand people not liking stupid dishonest people but that is like 60% of the masses.............hahahaha. I hope people are getting paid for their time invested in investigating dishonest people
Please explain WTF this response of yours is all about....
Im kind of lost here....
I asked a simple question.....right????
Wtf are you talking about "pointing fingers at you"
all I did was ask you a simple fucking question.....right???
I asked if you could please explain this thread to me....right???
Why the fuck did you give me this bizarre, strange, weird fucking response????
I dont get it...........
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....