June 2nd Release Date? I'd think so

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  • Guitarhero27
    Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    soulsinging wrote:
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    They are doing June 1 because that will be Conan's first show. If they were going to release the album on June 2, the marketing/promotion wheels would already have been cranking.


    you don't need marketing/promotion wheels on a new album in this day and age whether for an album or a single...

    Then why does the Conan show only make sense if it's being done to market/promote the new album?


    Because the marketing/promotional wheels would be the Conan show, nothing prior to that other than the announcement of pj performing songs* from the new album. There's a marketing ploy right there anyways.
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  • soulsinging
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    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    soulsinging wrote:
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    you don't need marketing/promotion wheels on a new album in this day and age whether for an album or a single...

    Then why does the Conan show only make sense if it's being done to market/promote the new album?

    Because the marketing/promotional wheels would be the Conan show, nothing prior to that other than the announcement of pj performing songs* from the new album. There's a marketing ploy right there anyways.

    I guess. I still think it's a stretch and not a very convincing/plausible theory. But if you're right, I'll come back and happily eat crow. I just wouldn't put my money on your date!
  • Guitarhero27
    Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    soulsinging wrote:
    I guess. I still think it's a stretch and not a very convincing/plausible theory. But if you're right, I'll come back and happily eat crow. I just wouldn't put my money on your date!


    Haha it's not even about that cause if I am right, we all win! But really in a business sense, you don't take arguably one of the highest late night TV shows EVER to promote....in a sense...nothing.
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  • PearlJamPatriot
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    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    soulsinging wrote:
    I guess. I still think it's a stretch and not a very convincing/plausible theory. But if you're right, I'll come back and happily eat crow. I just wouldn't put my money on your date!


    Haha it's not even about that cause if I am right, we all win! But really in a business sense, you don't take arguably one of the highest late night TV shows EVER to promote....in a sense...nothing.
    I definitely think them playing Conan is for promoting the album. I just think it s the beginning of a number of things they are going to do to promote the album. That said, they will do a lot of promoting before the album hits, which wont be in June or July IMO.
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  • FirstExit
    FirstExit Los Angeles Posts: 973
    The Conan appearance being on a Monday does set it up nicely, seeing as 99% of all of every media is released on Tuesdays. I can see SOMETHING being released...I just can't see Conan introducing them as the band "whose latest album is due out SOMETIME SOON....PEARL JAM!". I guarantee you he/the producers will want a set date or month.
  • raindog80
    raindog80 Reggio Emilia, Italy Posts: 1,196
    Just my 2 cents:

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  • soulsinging
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    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    soulsinging wrote:
    I guess. I still think it's a stretch and not a very convincing/plausible theory. But if you're right, I'll come back and happily eat crow. I just wouldn't put my money on your date!

    Haha it's not even about that cause if I am right, we all win! But really in a business sense, you don't take arguably one of the highest late night TV shows EVER to promote....in a sense...nothing.

    I don't think that's really what is happening though. As I said, PJ doesn't have the same kind of profile or presence in the public eye as Radiohead or NIN or even Wilco. PJ is kinda taken for granted. Even with no album release imminent, putting them on this show is a good thing for them, reminding people that they're out there and still alive and kicking. It whets the appetite. There's a new, decked out version of their classic debut for people to pick up, a few tour rumblings, and an album in the works. I can easily see this being little more than a "hey guys, we're still here!" kind of appearance with a more full scale PR press down the line once the album is closer.
  • Guitarhero27
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    soulsinging wrote:

    I don't think that's really what is happening though. As I said, PJ doesn't have the same kind of profile or presence in the public eye as Radiohead or NIN or even Wilco. PJ is kinda taken for granted. Even with no album release imminent, putting them on this show is a good thing for them, reminding people that they're out there and still alive and kicking. It whets the appetite. There's a new, decked out version of their classic debut for people to pick up, a few tour rumblings, and an album in the works. I can easily see this being little more than a "hey guys, we're still here!" kind of appearance with a more full scale PR press down the line once the album is closer.


    I live in the NY Market and to be perfectly honest, none of these bands, PJ included have a very high profile. In fact, PJ is about the same as Radiohead, but definately larger than nine inch nails in this market (evident by the amount of area appearances/sold out shows from PJ over the years to the slow selling/non sold out NIN shows in the area)

    So who really knows, but even if it is just for "hey we're still here" it's still better than Green Day playing 40 something year old punks without any musical growth, wearing their eye makeup, still going for that "image" of hating the "man" who is making them their money these days.

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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,334
    Considering the band just finished final mixing at the end of April, there's absolutely ZERO chance of the album being released next month. Trust Stone and Mike when they said the album would be released in the Fall,...
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  • cippociappo
    cippociappo Posts: 692
    This thread is really interesting... nice discussion!!

    My two cents... I don't see an album coming out before August/September, it's just too good to be true!
    ...but I'm happy anyway!

    Pearl Jam is doing so much, 2009 has been such a great year, with Ten re-release, tour announcement and the new album... PLUS all the stuff in the middle, festivals and Conan and Eddie solo tour... they're ALIVE!!! (and well)

    Thanks PJ... and let's hope for a new albume released ASAP :p
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  • Guitarhero27
    Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    cippociappo wrote:
    This thread is really interesting... nice discussion!!

    My two cents... I don't see an album coming out before August/September, it's just too good to be true!
    ...but I'm happy anyway!

    Pearl Jam is doing so much, 2009 has been such a great year, with Ten re-release, tour announcement and the new album... PLUS all the stuff in the middle, festivals and Conan and Eddie solo tour... they're ALIVE!!! (and well)

    Thanks PJ... and let's hope for a new albume released ASAP :p


    HAH I totally forgot about EV's solo tour as well. Wonder if he'll break out that "ballad" as touched upon in the other thread regarding someone hearing the "finished" album
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  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    didnt stone say on that MSNBC interview a couple weeks ago that it was definitely sept?

    hopefully he meant for the physical copy... id like to see a surprise d/l pop up sometime soon on the site

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  • locked
    locked Boston Posts: 4,048
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    LukinFan wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    My guess is Aug 24/25.
    sounds about right- I do think it will happen right before ACL

    Then why bother with the Conan show June 1st? Ok, Pearl Jam is playing new songs, to promote an upcoming album 3 months away? You don't take such a high profile show to promote something that's not ready for the public within a reasonable amount of time.

    .

    because DMB is releasing their new album June 1st and playing a live complete concert on the FUSE network June 2nd...
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  • NoOne'sRival
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    Why does it have to make sense? Re-Releasing 10 2 years prior to it's anniversary date didn't make much sense, but it happened...nothing has to make sense, it just has to happen and it will..patience peoples ;)
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  • dustinpardue
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    Wouldn't it make more sense if they released a single before the entire record?
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  • Guitarhero27
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    dustinpardue wrote:
    Wouldn't it make more sense if they released a single before the entire record?

    again - NIN and Radiohead broke down the door of "how it should work"
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    dustinpardue wrote:
    Wouldn't it make more sense if they released a single before the entire record?

    again - NIN and Radiohead broke down the door of "how it should work"

    Yet you insist that they must follow the old rules of making sure the Conan appearance is used to push the imminent release of the new album, otherwise it's been a waste that makes no sense.
  • Guitarhero27
    Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    soulsinging wrote:
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    dustinpardue wrote:
    Wouldn't it make more sense if they released a single before the entire record?

    again - NIN and Radiohead broke down the door of "how it should work"

    Yet you insist that they must follow the old rules of making sure the Conan appearance is used to push the imminent release of the new album, otherwise it's been a waste that makes no sense.


    I insist that it's not just an appearance for the hell of it.
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  • PldgMyGrievance
    PldgMyGrievance Posts: 279
    I havent read this thread so excuse me if this is old news but

    Both Mike and Stone have said they "think" the album should be out in September. Plus, on the Red Mosquito board theres a post about a preview of one of the European posters, and the translation of one of the sentences on the poster says, "New Album this September."

    Let me go now and try to get a link to that post.
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    10/1/04 Reading Penn
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    5/27/06 Camden, NJ aka Philly
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  • PldgMyGrievance
    PldgMyGrievance Posts: 279
    http://www.theskyiscrape.com/index.php? ... &Itemid=51

    Halfway down page 53 of that page is a picture of the poster, and a close up of the "Coming this September" line.
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    7/8/03 MSG
    7/9/03 MSG
    7/14/03 Holmdel, NJ
    10/1/04 Reading Penn
    10/3/05 Philly
    5/13/06 Hartford, CT
    5/27/06 Camden, NJ aka Philly
    5/31/06 Storytellers Taping
    6/1/06 East Rutherford, NJ
    6/3/06 East Rutherford, NJ
    6/19/08 Camden, NJ
    6/24/08 MSG
    6/25/08 MSG
    6/27/08 Hartford, CT
    Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 10-27-2009
    Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 10-30-2009
    Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 10-31-2009
    Hartford, CT 05-15-2010
    New York, New York 05-21-2010
    New York, New York 05-20-2010
    East Troy, Wisconsin 09-04-2011 (PJ20)
    East Troy, Wisconsin 09-03-2011 (PJ20)
    Philadelphia, PA 09-02-2012 (Made In America)
    Chicago, IL 07-19-2013
    Pittsburgh, PA 10-11-2013
    Buffalo, NY 10-12-2013
    Hartford, CT 10-25-2013

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