It doesn't really seem unreasonable to play a few new songs on Conan, let the youtube/internet buzz spread the videos virally for a month or so, release a radio single during summer, and then finally release the record in the early fall after live recordings are circulating virally from the august shows. This doesn't seem unrealistic at all, and sounds like good marketing if they keep the momentum up until the release.
exactly.
besides which, there is ed solo in june......live pj in august in europe and then in SF......then ACL in early october..........there's plenty of 'space' in there to create buzz, excitement, momentum for a new album....release the new album amongst all that........
offering a DL of the new album the day after a conan appearance to me really doesn't make a lot of sense, but even if it did, and even if it did occur....doesn't mean it couldn't sink just as fast as an actual album too. it really doesn't make a difference there imo. i think conan is a 'just b/c we can' show.....to kick of a summer chock FULL of buzz and appearances.....album release in the fall......more buzz....more shows..........it's all good.
It's funny I still keep forgetting about the EV solo shows. You're right with keeping buzz alive for that, but i still think we're going to hear something about june 2nd...doesn't have to be the whole album, but something's going down. I still can't see conan as being a just because type of appearance, sure it's great if it is, and shocking as well, but there's something else buried within it....who knows what haha
It doesn't really seem unreasonable to play a few new songs on Conan, let the youtube/internet buzz spread the videos virally for a month or so, release a radio single during summer, and then finally release the record in the early fall after live recordings are circulating virally from the august shows. This doesn't seem unrealistic at all, and sounds like good marketing if they keep the momentum up until the release.
exactly.
besides which, there is ed solo in june......live pj in august in europe and then in SF......then ACL in early october..........there's plenty of 'space' in there to create buzz, excitement, momentum for a new album....release the new album amongst all that........
offering a DL of the new album the day after a conan appearance to me really doesn't make a lot of sense, but even if it did, and even if it did occur....doesn't mean it couldn't sink just as fast as an actual album too. it really doesn't make a difference there imo. i think conan is a 'just b/c we can' show.....to kick of a summer chock FULL of buzz and appearances.....album release in the fall......more buzz....more shows..........it's all good.
It's funny I still keep forgetting about the EV solo shows. You're right with keeping buzz alive for that, but i still think we're going to hear something about june 2nd...doesn't have to be the whole album, but something's going down. I still can't see conan as being a just because type of appearance, sure it's great if it is, and shocking as well, but there's something else buried within it....who knows what haha
and i say...........maybe.
but deep down, i don't see anything personally. difference of opinion and we'll see soon enough! have a single release on june 2nd would be cool....radio play, great....i just personally don't want to see pj go this route with actual album release....but again, i take pj how i can get it. we just happen to see this whole conan appearance in an entirely different light, that's to be sure. i absolutly see it as win-win for conan and the band....all about excitement and buzz......and i could easily see conan mentioning all the shows pj has planned on the horizon and yea....perhaps actually mentioning the new album for september, maybe even hinting how he hopes he can get em back when it happens. whatever....it's all good......as long as we get a CD first.
It doesn't really seem unreasonable to play a few new songs on Conan, let the youtube/internet buzz spread the videos virally for a month or so, release a radio single during summer, and then finally release the record in the early fall after live recordings are circulating virally from the august shows. This doesn't seem unrealistic at all, and sounds like good marketing if they keep the momentum up until the release.
momentum is VERY tough to keep going these days. If an album goes to number 1 and sells about 150K during its first week, it can dwindle to 50K the next, 25K the next, 10K the next, and so on...and just fade on out.
I agree, so it's important to use the time ahead of a release to build interest. When they released the ten redux it got a lot of attention, but Interest is starting to abate. The Conan performance is a great opportunity for publicity. With the short attention span the general population has with music, momentum has always been tough to keep up. It's all about timing, and staying in public view.
I agree, so it's important to use the time ahead of a release to build interest. When they released the ten redux it got a lot of attention, but Interest is starting to abate. The Conan performance is a great opportunity for publicity. With the short attention span the general population has with music, momentum has always been tough to keep up. It's all about timing, and staying in public view.
To be perfectly honest I'm not sure how much attention Ten reissue got (at least in the NY/NJ market). Sure, Brother was on the radio, but it wasn't well known what format it would be available under, where to get it, how to get it. There wasn't enough advertising on the spectrum of what editions contained what, which would be tough yes, but in my area, people just thought Brother just kinda surfaced and that was that.
I agree, so it's important to use the time ahead of a release to build interest. When they released the ten redux it got a lot of attention, but Interest is starting to abate. The Conan performance is a great opportunity for publicity. With the short attention span the general population has with music, momentum has always been tough to keep up. It's all about timing, and staying in public view.
To be perfectly honest I'm not sure how much attention Ten reissue got (at least in the NY/NJ market). Sure, Brother was on the radio, but it wasn't well known what format it would be available under, where to get it, how to get it. There wasn't enough advertising on the spectrum of what editions contained what, which would be tough yes, but in my area, people just thought Brother just kinda surfaced and that was that.
But we'll see where this Conan appearance goes!
Fair enough, I felt like the Ten reissue got a lot of attention here in Portland, Brother is still in good rotation on the rock radio station. Regardless of marketing and publicity, I'm just excited to hear a new record, and hoping for a larger tour to support it post-release.
Fair enough, I felt like the Ten reissue got a lot of attention here in Portland, Brother is still in good rotation on the rock radio station. Regardless of marketing and publicity, I'm just excited to hear a new record, and hoping for a larger tour to support it post-release.
That's great, but here in NY, we lost our major rock format radio station 92.3 K-Rock shortly after Brother hit the airwaves. They were playing it a ton, but all that was left was classic rock station which would only play some cuts from Ten, but not mentioning of the re-release or Brother because it's "new" and then another alt-rock station whos format is like an ipod, but the library at that station is so vast, and since payola is no longer an option, if and when Brother was played, it was just kinda lost in the format shuffle.
Cool to hear how the different coasts have been with marketing ploys. Could be another reason why PJ is looking to do more shows in the west this year than last year! Could the marketing distribution have anything to do with tour locations...hmmmmm.....
Fair enough, I felt like the Ten reissue got a lot of attention here in Portland, Brother is still in good rotation on the rock radio station. Regardless of marketing and publicity, I'm just excited to hear a new record, and hoping for a larger tour to support it post-release.
That's great, but here in NY, we lost our major rock format radio station 92.3 K-Rock shortly after Brother hit the airwaves. They were playing it a ton, but all that was left was classic rock station which would only play some cuts from Ten, but not mentioning of the re-release or Brother because it's "new" and then another alt-rock station whos format is like an ipod, but the library at that station is so vast, and since payola is no longer an option, if and when Brother was played, it was just kinda lost in the format shuffle.
Cool to hear how the different coasts have been with marketing ploys. Could be another reason why PJ is looking to do more shows in the west this year than last year! Could the marketing distribution have anything to do with tour locations...hmmmmm.....
You may be onto something. Sorry to hear that you guys lost your major rock station, our alt-rock station isn't that great either.
oh and i too would wait for the hard copy. i am not buying a DL of a pj album.
Then if that was the case, why didn't they stop their music from being distributed via Itunes? It's there for more than just another way for a fan to access the songs.
It is? What is it there for then? What is the "more"? Seems to me it's simply a matter of a lot of people liking the itunes music store and PJ not wanting to be inaccessible that way. What is the ulterior motive?
I don't know what I'd do if PJ went digitial. I downloaded the Slip when it came out and bought the cd later, but I don't know if I'd do the same. If it was a matter of paying twice for the album, no way would I opt for the digital. If they included a digital download option, I'd consider it but not particularly enthusiastically. I know I'm buying the new PJ album, I wasn't so sure about NIN back then, so I downloaded to see what I thought. I only downloaded the free portion of Ghosts to see what I thought, then waited to buy the whole thing on cd later. Ditto for Radiohead... paid a pittance for the download to see what I thought of it.
Let's also not forget that Radiohead and NIN are the EXCEPTION, not the rule. 99% of music acts still release hard copy album and digital versions on the same day as they always have. The Tragically Hip (a band I'd consider closest to PJ in terms of spirit, fans, and business model) just had a hard release. Wilco has announced no plans for an early/exlusive ditigal release. REM didnt do it. Springsteen hasn't done it. U2 didn't do it. It's not like a physical cd release is some sort of rare specimen. What is rare is getting a digital copy before the actual album. Radiohead did it as a publicity stunt. NIN did it to generate interest and give easy/cheap access to his music after a period of flying under the radar a bit (plus, he's just miles ahead of anyone in playing with ways to use technology like this). I see no reason why PJ would go this route.
oh and i too would wait for the hard copy. i am not buying a DL of a pj album.
Then if that was the case, why didn't they stop their music from being distributed via Itunes? It's there for more than just another way for a fan to access the songs.
It is? What is it there for then? What is the "more"? Seems to me it's simply a matter of a lot of people liking the itunes music store and PJ not wanting to be inaccessible that way. What is the ulterior motive?
I don't know what I'd do if PJ went digitial. I downloaded the Slip when it came out and bought the cd later, but I don't know if I'd do the same. If it was a matter of paying twice for the album, no way would I opt for the digital. If they included a digital download option, I'd consider it but not particularly enthusiastically. I know I'm buying the new PJ album, I wasn't so sure about NIN back then, so I downloaded to see what I thought. I only downloaded the free portion of Ghosts to see what I thought, then waited to buy the whole thing on cd later. Ditto for Radiohead... paid a pittance for the download to see what I thought of it.
Let's also not forget that Radiohead and NIN are the EXCEPTION, not the rule. 99% of music acts still release hard copy album and digital versions on the same day as they always have. The Tragically Hip (a band I'd consider closest to PJ in terms of spirit, fans, and business model) just had a hard release. Wilco has announced no plans for an early/exlusive ditigal release. REM didnt do it. Springsteen hasn't done it. U2 didn't do it. It's not like a physical cd release is some sort of rare specimen. What is rare is getting a digital copy before the actual album. Radiohead did it as a publicity stunt. NIN did it to generate interest and give easy/cheap access to his music after a period of flying under the radar a bit (plus, he's just miles ahead of anyone in playing with ways to use technology like this). I see no reason why PJ would go this route.
Yes Those 2 bands are exceptions not the rule, but we're also dealing with the band that still writes their own rulebook, so who knows. And you said that Radiohead did it for the headlines.....it's something to think about.....had they not had the headlines, would they still have the sales of the album? I hear house of cards more times a day than any other song!
You keep acting as if PJ doesn't know their head from their asses when it comes to computers....think about back in 2000 they were posting videos up on the website after each show....their staff knows computers very well - hell they did all the editing for TB2K and that was almost 10 years ago now! PJ knows computers as well, their lives are written on protools these days. I don't see them being too far away from just surprising everyone with being technologically savvy one day out of the blue. Sure Trent communicates with fans directly while PJ doesn't, but that doesn't take away from them not being savvy in the internet spectrum.
The band says it themselves, it's an exciting time and the options are limitless.
some of us simply do not find the idea of a digital release before a hard copy release *exciting* is all.....differing perspectives..........
I'm with ya on that!
just cant deny the possibility
who did? :?
i don't think anyone said outright it is outside the realm of possibility.....but you asked 'why not?' in regards to a june 2nd release date...and many, including myself, gave our reasons why. also, when you countered about there being 'no point' to a conan appearance without a release of some form immediately following, again....did not say it was outside possibility, just merely the two are not mutually exclusive, at all. and while possible...many of us do not believe it probable, nor necessarily desirable. there is a difference between disagreement and denial of possibility. i have disagreed, not denied.
some of us simply do not find the idea of a digital release before a hard copy release *exciting* is all.....differing perspectives..........
I'm with ya on that!
just cant deny the possibility
who did? :?
i don't think anyone said outright it is outside the realm of possibility.....but you asked 'why not?' in regards to a june 2nd release date...and many, including myself, gave our reasons why. also, when you countered about there being 'no point' to a conan appearance without a release of some form immediately following, again....did not say it was outside possibility, just merely the two are not mutually exclusive, at all. and while possible...many of us do not believe it probable, nor necessarily desirable. there is a difference between disagreement and denial of possibility. i have disagreed, not denied.
haha it's all good. I was just reiterating my point yet again, not saying anyone denied, but made sure no one can
those of us not hung up on nostalgia would appreciate the early digital d/l and everyone else can just wait like normal... dont see the problem... i love going through the packaging and everything as much as anyone else, but these days i usual d/l first then buy the vinyl after anyway... doesnt cheapen the physical experience by hearing the music first IMO
those of us not hung up on nostalgia would appreciate the early digital d/l and everyone else can just wait like normal... dont see the problem... i love going through the packaging and everything as much as anyone else, but these days i usual d/l first then buy the vinyl after anyway... doesnt cheapen the physical experience by hearing the music first IMO
But the band might be hung up on that nostalgic way of thought.
We all saw those pics of Ed in the Lance Mercer book, must've been the late 90's in his moon chair with built in speakers for his turntable, listening to vinyl.
those of us not hung up on nostalgia would appreciate the early digital d/l and everyone else can just wait like normal... dont see the problem... i love going through the packaging and everything as much as anyone else, but these days i usual d/l first then buy the vinyl after anyway... doesnt cheapen the physical experience by hearing the music first IMO
But the band might be hung up on that nostalgic way of thought.
We all saw those pics of Ed in the Lance Mercer book, must've been the late 90's in his moon chair with built in speakers for his turntable, listening to vinyl.
Oh and the promo photos for the Avocado album in front of the record store, as well as holding up records!
hey, i welcome the discussion! it's been a good read, on-topic for the most part...and absolutely civil. :shock: amazing.....haha. it's been passing some very slow workdays, always a plus...and besides, as we await news, i DO fully embrace the technology that allows me to discuss, in great detail, endless possibilities and desires......:)
sgossard...it's not nostalgia, it's merely a preference. pj is gonna do what pj wants to do....and that's all good and as it shoud be. just expressing hopes. and yes, i personally hope that hard copies always come first b/c i personally prefer that musical experience be from a CD on my home stereo system rather than a DL. absolutely get tho that many feel and think exactly as you do, and that will probably grow evermore as the industry moves further and further away from physical copies - of anything really - and more and more into the realm of digital.....
those of us not hung up on nostalgia would appreciate the early digital d/l and everyone else can just wait like normal... dont see the problem... i love going through the packaging and everything as much as anyone else, but these days i usual d/l first then buy the vinyl after anyway... doesnt cheapen the physical experience by hearing the music first IMO
But the band might be hung up on that nostalgic way of thought.
We all saw those pics of Ed in the Lance Mercer book, must've been the late 90's in his moon chair with built in speakers for his turntable, listening to vinyl.
Oh and the promo photos for the Avocado album in front of the record store, as well as holding up records!
oh im totally aware theyre all oldschool audiophiles... but i dont think theyre naive about the trends in music today either - and eager to test the water... id be incredibly surprised to not see SOMETHING digital with this release... it just makes sense for a band whose sales are down... its pure profit for them... not to mention the money they can make off of a limited edition signed vinyl copy or something like that... hard to deny things arent being looked at from a business perspective these days... im definitely expecting a "ghosts" style release
oh im totally aware theyre all oldschool audiophiles... but i dont think theyre naive about the trends in music today either - and eager to test the water... id be incredibly surprised to not see SOMETHING digital with this release... it just makes sense for a band whose sales are down... its pure profit for them... not to mention the money they can make off of a limited edition signed vinyl copy or something like that... hard to deny things arent being looked at from a business perspective these days... im definitely expecting a "ghosts" style release
absolutely!
hey, i am all FOR digital releases....exactly....it does make total sense from a business perspective. only difference is i also want to see hard copy releases, CDs and vinyls, with digital DLs to follow, that's all. i too agree they'd be insane to not embrace the technology out there for their benefits, and to the beneift and desire of many fans.....just that i hope they don't lose thie old school ways too. i think it's possible to balance both ANd be profitable to boot.
oh im totally aware theyre all oldschool audiophiles... but i dont think theyre naive about the trends in music today either - and eager to test the water... id be incredibly surprised to not see SOMETHING digital with this release... it just makes sense for a band whose sales are down... its pure profit for them... not to mention the money they can make off of a limited edition signed vinyl copy or something like that... hard to deny things arent being looked at from a business perspective these days... im definitely expecting a "ghosts" style release
absolutely!
hey, i am all FOR digital releases....exactly....it does make total sense from a business perspective. only difference is i also want to see hard copy releases, CDs and vinyls, with digital DLs to follow, that's all. i too agree they'd be insane to not embrace the technology out there for their benefits, and to the beneift and desire of many fans.....just that i hope they don't lose thie old school ways too. i think it's possible to balance both ANd be profitable to boot.
They better release physical copies as well! But i wonder if physical copies will come later (a month?) after digital copies. June 2nd is coming soon enough, we'll know real quick haha.
oh im totally aware theyre all oldschool audiophiles... but i dont think theyre naive about the trends in music today either - and eager to test the water... id be incredibly surprised to not see SOMETHING digital with this release... it just makes sense for a band whose sales are down... its pure profit for them... not to mention the money they can make off of a limited edition signed vinyl copy or something like that... hard to deny things arent being looked at from a business perspective these days... im definitely expecting a "ghosts" style release
absolutely!
hey, i am all FOR digital releases....exactly....it does make total sense from a business perspective. only difference is i also want to see hard copy releases, CDs and vinyls, with digital DLs to follow, that's all. i too agree they'd be insane to not embrace the technology out there for their benefits, and to the beneift and desire of many fans.....just that i hope they don't lose thie old school ways too. i think it's possible to balance both ANd be profitable to boot.
They better release physical copies as well! But i wonder if physical copies will come later (a month?) after digital copies. June 2nd is coming soon enough, we'll know real quick haha.
how novel, a man with a one-track mind.....just apparently not on the usual topic.......;)
Just wanted to put my two cents in that I think the album will be out before the fall. I don't think it will be released June 2, but I definitely think it will be out this summer. I think they will do a surprise thing a la NIN. The main reason I think this is that I don't think they will play a bunch of songs on Conan and then wait four months to release the album. I don't think they would play new songs on such a high profile show without the album following soon after. (Sorry if this has been posted, I didn't read through all the thread.)
Just wanted to post this so if I'm right I can point to my prediction!!!
Just wanted to put my two cents in that I think the album will be out before the fall. I don't think it will be released June 2, but I definitely think it will be out this summer. I think they will do a surprise thing a la NIN. The main reason I think this is that I don't think they will play a bunch of songs on Conan and then wait four months to release the album. I don't think they would play new songs on such a high profile show without the album following soon after. (Sorry if this has been posted, I didn't read through all the thread.)
Just wanted to post this so if I'm right I can point to my prediction!!!
Just wanted to put my two cents in that I think the album will be out before the fall. I don't think it will be released June 2, but I definitely think it will be out this summer. I think they will do a surprise thing a la NIN. The main reason I think this is that I don't think they will play a bunch of songs on Conan and then wait four months to release the album. I don't think they would play new songs on such a high profile show without the album following soon after. (Sorry if this has been posted, I didn't read through all the thread.)
Just wanted to post this so if I'm right I can point to my prediction!!!
You're really goin out on a limb there.
you think? I can't remember a time, especially in this digital age of a band playing new songs on a show as big as the Tonight Show and not releasing an album shortly after.
I'm not saying I'm right, I'm probably wrong. I just want proof that I thought of it early, if it does come true because i am shallow and self-centered.
**Edit**(Before anyone jumps to reply - please read this ongoing discussion before you contribute, a lot has been covered, the thread has not been hijacked, bring your A-game people, and feel free to chime in!)
from the looks of it, there's a commercial in the works for a retail chain store, whether it's exclusive distribution could be up for speculation as well.
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It's funny I still keep forgetting about the EV solo shows. You're right with keeping buzz alive for that, but i still think we're going to hear something about june 2nd...doesn't have to be the whole album, but something's going down. I still can't see conan as being a just because type of appearance, sure it's great if it is, and shocking as well, but there's something else buried within it....who knows what haha
and i say...........maybe.
but deep down, i don't see anything personally. difference of opinion and we'll see soon enough! have a single release on june 2nd would be cool....radio play, great....i just personally don't want to see pj go this route with actual album release....but again, i take pj how i can get it. we just happen to see this whole conan appearance in an entirely different light, that's to be sure. i absolutly see it as win-win for conan and the band....all about excitement and buzz......and i could easily see conan mentioning all the shows pj has planned on the horizon and yea....perhaps actually mentioning the new album for september, maybe even hinting how he hopes he can get em back when it happens.
Let's just breathe...
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I agree, so it's important to use the time ahead of a release to build interest. When they released the ten redux it got a lot of attention, but Interest is starting to abate. The Conan performance is a great opportunity for publicity. With the short attention span the general population has with music, momentum has always been tough to keep up. It's all about timing, and staying in public view.
To be perfectly honest I'm not sure how much attention Ten reissue got (at least in the NY/NJ market). Sure, Brother was on the radio, but it wasn't well known what format it would be available under, where to get it, how to get it. There wasn't enough advertising on the spectrum of what editions contained what, which would be tough yes, but in my area, people just thought Brother just kinda surfaced and that was that.
But we'll see where this Conan appearance goes!
Fair enough, I felt like the Ten reissue got a lot of attention here in Portland, Brother is still in good rotation on the rock radio station. Regardless of marketing and publicity, I'm just excited to hear a new record, and hoping for a larger tour to support it post-release.
That's great, but here in NY, we lost our major rock format radio station 92.3 K-Rock shortly after Brother hit the airwaves. They were playing it a ton, but all that was left was classic rock station which would only play some cuts from Ten, but not mentioning of the re-release or Brother because it's "new" and then another alt-rock station whos format is like an ipod, but the library at that station is so vast, and since payola is no longer an option, if and when Brother was played, it was just kinda lost in the format shuffle.
Cool to hear how the different coasts have been with marketing ploys. Could be another reason why PJ is looking to do more shows in the west this year than last year! Could the marketing distribution have anything to do with tour locations...hmmmmm.....
You may be onto something. Sorry to hear that you guys lost your major rock station, our alt-rock station isn't that great either.
It is? What is it there for then? What is the "more"? Seems to me it's simply a matter of a lot of people liking the itunes music store and PJ not wanting to be inaccessible that way. What is the ulterior motive?
I don't know what I'd do if PJ went digitial. I downloaded the Slip when it came out and bought the cd later, but I don't know if I'd do the same. If it was a matter of paying twice for the album, no way would I opt for the digital. If they included a digital download option, I'd consider it but not particularly enthusiastically. I know I'm buying the new PJ album, I wasn't so sure about NIN back then, so I downloaded to see what I thought. I only downloaded the free portion of Ghosts to see what I thought, then waited to buy the whole thing on cd later. Ditto for Radiohead... paid a pittance for the download to see what I thought of it.
Let's also not forget that Radiohead and NIN are the EXCEPTION, not the rule. 99% of music acts still release hard copy album and digital versions on the same day as they always have. The Tragically Hip (a band I'd consider closest to PJ in terms of spirit, fans, and business model) just had a hard release. Wilco has announced no plans for an early/exlusive ditigal release. REM didnt do it. Springsteen hasn't done it. U2 didn't do it. It's not like a physical cd release is some sort of rare specimen. What is rare is getting a digital copy before the actual album. Radiohead did it as a publicity stunt. NIN did it to generate interest and give easy/cheap access to his music after a period of flying under the radar a bit (plus, he's just miles ahead of anyone in playing with ways to use technology like this). I see no reason why PJ would go this route.
Yes Those 2 bands are exceptions not the rule, but we're also dealing with the band that still writes their own rulebook, so who knows. And you said that Radiohead did it for the headlines.....it's something to think about.....had they not had the headlines, would they still have the sales of the album? I hear house of cards more times a day than any other song!
You keep acting as if PJ doesn't know their head from their asses when it comes to computers....think about back in 2000 they were posting videos up on the website after each show....their staff knows computers very well - hell they did all the editing for TB2K and that was almost 10 years ago now! PJ knows computers as well, their lives are written on protools these days. I don't see them being too far away from just surprising everyone with being technologically savvy one day out of the blue. Sure Trent communicates with fans directly while PJ doesn't, but that doesn't take away from them not being savvy in the internet spectrum.
The band says it themselves, it's an exciting time and the options are limitless.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
I'm with ya on that!
just cant deny the possibility
who did? :?
i don't think anyone said outright it is outside the realm of possibility.....but you asked 'why not?' in regards to a june 2nd release date...and many, including myself, gave our reasons why. also, when you countered about there being 'no point' to a conan appearance without a release of some form immediately following, again....did not say it was outside possibility, just merely the two are not mutually exclusive, at all. and while possible...many of us do not believe it probable, nor necessarily desirable. there is a difference between disagreement and denial of possibility. i have disagreed, not denied.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
haha it's all good. I was just reiterating my point yet again, not saying anyone denied, but made sure no one can
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But the band might be hung up on that nostalgic way of thought.
We all saw those pics of Ed in the Lance Mercer book, must've been the late 90's in his moon chair with built in speakers for his turntable, listening to vinyl.
Oh and the promo photos for the Avocado album in front of the record store, as well as holding up records!
sgossard...it's not nostalgia, it's merely a preference. pj is gonna do what pj wants to do....and that's all good and as it shoud be. just expressing hopes. and yes, i personally hope that hard copies always come first b/c i personally prefer that musical experience be from a CD on my home stereo system rather than a DL. absolutely get tho that many feel and think exactly as you do, and that will probably grow evermore as the industry moves further and further away from physical copies - of anything really - and more and more into the realm of digital.....
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
http://seanbriceart.com/
absolutely!
hey, i am all FOR digital releases....exactly....it does make total sense from a business perspective. only difference is i also want to see hard copy releases, CDs and vinyls, with digital DLs to follow, that's all. i too agree they'd be insane to not embrace the technology out there for their benefits, and to the beneift and desire of many fans.....just that i hope they don't lose thie old school ways too. i think it's possible to balance both ANd be profitable to boot.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
They better release physical copies as well! But i wonder if physical copies will come later (a month?) after digital copies. June 2nd is coming soon enough, we'll know real quick haha.
how novel, a man with a one-track mind.....just apparently not on the usual topic.......;)
shit-stirrer........
hahahaha.
vive la CDs! and hard copy releases FIRST!
have a good evening all....i am out!
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
i'm sure we'll pick back up tomorrow.
Just wanted to post this so if I'm right I can point to my prediction!!!
You're really goin out on a limb there.
you think? I can't remember a time, especially in this digital age of a band playing new songs on a show as big as the Tonight Show and not releasing an album shortly after.
I'm not saying I'm right, I'm probably wrong. I just want proof that I thought of it early, if it does come true because i am shallow and self-centered.
asap i say!