Outside Lands is the end of August. PJ is probably contracted to not announce any other shows in the area until after the festival. It's common knowledge about how festivals are run.
I would expect PJ to DEFINATELY be doing some sort of show on 10/22 in Seattle proper - a place they haven't played in years oddly enough.
Also - El Corazon (the old Off Ramp) I would imagine would be the site for Cameron Crowe to shoot some footage that day as well. I do not think PJ will be playing there that night, but perhaps walk around that place during the day and talking about that first ever show on 10/22, 20 years to the date.
But something is in the air for this week I can feel it!!!!!!!1
I lot of people are going to be watching the Conan premeire.. It would be a good sales idea for the band to release something rather soon. The public has short memories. At least have it on airwaves the next week and a single released a few weeks later.
That was my argument for why I think the album will come out sooner than the fall. I don't understand why they would do a big show like this and wait until the fall to release the album.
i just like how this seems so new and fresh compared to their normal way of doing things with new albums....just enjoy it!
Outside Lands is the end of August. PJ is probably contracted to not announce any other shows in the area until after the festival. It's common knowledge about how festivals are run.
I would expect PJ to DEFINATELY be doing some sort of show on 10/22 in Seattle proper - a place they haven't played in years oddly enough.
Also - El Corazon (the old Off Ramp) I would imagine would be the site for Cameron Crowe to shoot some footage that day as well. I do not think PJ will be playing there that night, but perhaps walk around that place during the day and talking about that first ever show on 10/22, 20 years to the date.
But something is in the air for this week I can feel it!!!!!!!1
I'm jumping in late here, so I might be misunderstanding what you are saying. But 20 years to the date would be in 2010. As in, over a year from now.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
Outside Lands is the end of August. PJ is probably contracted to not announce any other shows in the area until after the festival. It's common knowledge about how festivals are run.
Although I think your main point is valid (re: contractual terms of announcing shows within a certain radius of festival dates), I don't think they have to wait until the end of August to announce more shows. It certainly looks like any more shows in the US will either be in September or October. Even if we are talking October, I can't imagine that they are going to announce a bunch of October dates on say August 31st. That will be only a month of advance notice for many of these shows. That seems highly unlikely to me.
I think we'll hear about any October shows by the beginning of July at the very latest.
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I lot of people are going to be watching the Conan premeire.. It would be a good sales idea for the band to release something rather soon. The public has short memories. At least have it on airwaves the next week and a single released a few weeks later.
That was my argument for why I think the album will come out sooner than the fall. I don't understand why they would do a big show like this and wait until the fall to release the album.
i just like how this seems so new and fresh compared to their normal way of doing things with new albums....just enjoy it!
Outside Lands is the end of August. PJ is probably contracted to not announce any other shows in the area until after the festival. It's common knowledge about how festivals are run.
I would expect PJ to DEFINATELY be doing some sort of show on 10/22 in Seattle proper - a place they haven't played in years oddly enough.
Also - El Corazon (the old Off Ramp) I would imagine would be the site for Cameron Crowe to shoot some footage that day as well. I do not think PJ will be playing there that night, but perhaps walk around that place during the day and talking about that first ever show on 10/22, 20 years to the date.
But something is in the air for this week I can feel it!!!!!!!1
I'm jumping in late here, so I might be misunderstanding what you are saying. But 20 years to the date would be in 2010. As in, over a year from now.
LOL!!! I may have gotten way ahead of myself hahaha. Yea, whoops on that whole thing!
You wanna know how i know nothing is going to be released on June 2nd.....this thread hasn't been locked/deleted yet
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"I SAW STONE ON MSNBC VI SATELLITE..FOR THE POSSIBLE EXTINTION OF TURTLES..... STONE SAID SEPT."
Sept is going to be a great month.
I saw Stone on MSNBC and he didn't look sure that it would be Sept. Mike has said somewhere recently that they were listening to the final mix.
exactly. you need to finish off an album, give it a couple of months build up with a single on the radio and some marketing across the board and then release the album to the public. I know everyones hoping for a summer album but by music biz standards, we're looking at a fall release.
by JP33
"I SAW STONE ON MSNBC VI SATELLITE..FOR THE POSSIBLE EXTINTION OF TURTLES..... STONE SAID SEPT."
Sept is going to be a great month.
I saw Stone on MSNBC and he didn't look sure that it would be Sept. Mike has said somewhere recently that they were listening to the final mix.
exactly. you need to finish off an album, give it a couple of months build up with a single on the radio and some marketing across the board and then release the album to the public. I know everyones hoping for a summer album but by music biz standards, we're looking at a fall release.
not necessarily at all. radiohead announced it a week before, as did the raconteurs with their recent disc. there are no "music biz standards" in the traditional sense anymore. artists are creative in their distribution. pearl jam could send it out digitally next week, and release a physical version (at target?) in a few months.
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you have a point about the digital releases but, i think bands like radiohead are putting their music out there on digital format to try to avoid an unexpected early release (ie - someone uploading an unfinished version of the album online). The album Hail to the thief was named that in reference to all the people that got a hold of their previous stuff and were burning it illegally.
I don't think Pearl Jam are too concerned about digital releases. They've always been about the hard copy format. But that's just my opinion.
Maybe, but aren't Toronto and Chicago already sold out. So it's not like they're going to sell anymore tickets if they release the album beforehand.
Right, but a lot of casual fans hold those tickets, people who will be more inclined to go buy the album the next day if they liked what they heard at the show. Plus, you also get a lot of radio play when a band is about to play in a big city, and ideally you'd have the CD available for listeners who like it and want to buy it.
Also, on a more basic level, don't you think the guys are excited to play these new songs?
We're probably all wasting our time with these guesses, as I for one have no clue about what goes into it from all the mastering/distribution/artwork angles. But to me, it's a 100% no-brainer that they'll get this album out as soon as they can without compromising quality.
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Outside Lands is the end of August. PJ is probably contracted to not announce any other shows in the area until after the festival. It's common knowledge about how festivals are run.
I would expect PJ to DEFINATELY be doing some sort of show on 10/22 in Seattle proper - a place they haven't played in years oddly enough.
Also - El Corazon (the old Off Ramp) I would imagine would be the site for Cameron Crowe to shoot some footage that day as well. I do not think PJ will be playing there that night, but perhaps walk around that place during the day and talking about that first ever show on 10/22, 20 years to the date.
But something is in the air for this week I can feel it!!!!!!!1
there's my "a" game.
deal with it.
nice!
i just like how this seems so new and fresh compared to their normal way of doing things with new albums....just enjoy it!
I'm jumping in late here, so I might be misunderstanding what you are saying. But 20 years to the date would be in 2010. As in, over a year from now.
for the least they could possibly do
I think we'll hear about any October shows by the beginning of July at the very latest.
Like how?
LOL!!! I may have gotten way ahead of myself hahaha. Yea, whoops on that whole thing!
But anyways, tomorrow's the Conan night...leading into Tuesday, June 2nd.
We'll see what happens.
8/7/08, 6/9/09
Maybe there will be an advertising campaign to coincide with the Conan appearance?
"I SAW STONE ON MSNBC VI SATELLITE..FOR THE POSSIBLE EXTINTION OF TURTLES..... STONE SAID SEPT."
Sept is going to be a great month.
you've got an excellent point.
EDIT: assuming this whole tar*** thing is true
I saw Stone on MSNBC and he didn't look sure that it would be Sept. Mike has said somewhere recently that they were listening to the final mix.
J/K
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that picture is great.
But it reminds me of when those fake tour dates make the rounds on the boards....when they're completely unrealistic...they don't get deleted...
hmm...
Maybe someone should make a topic about September Release Date....and see how long it lasts haha.
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exactly. you need to finish off an album, give it a couple of months build up with a single on the radio and some marketing across the board and then release the album to the public. I know everyones hoping for a summer album but by music biz standards, we're looking at a fall release.
not necessarily at all. radiohead announced it a week before, as did the raconteurs with their recent disc. there are no "music biz standards" in the traditional sense anymore. artists are creative in their distribution. pearl jam could send it out digitally next week, and release a physical version (at target?) in a few months.
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2022 Camden
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I don't think Pearl Jam are too concerned about digital releases. They've always been about the hard copy format. But that's just my opinion.
made him ... want to be everywhere
there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
My thoughts too.
Maybe, but aren't Toronto and Chicago already sold out. So it's not like they're going to sell anymore tickets if they release the album beforehand.
More likely they'd sell more bootlegs if the shows contained songs from the still unreleased album.
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I don't think there's a bootleg system planned for these shows.
Right, but a lot of casual fans hold those tickets, people who will be more inclined to go buy the album the next day if they liked what they heard at the show. Plus, you also get a lot of radio play when a band is about to play in a big city, and ideally you'd have the CD available for listeners who like it and want to buy it.
Also, on a more basic level, don't you think the guys are excited to play these new songs?
We're probably all wasting our time with these guesses, as I for one have no clue about what goes into it from all the mastering/distribution/artwork angles. But to me, it's a 100% no-brainer that they'll get this album out as soon as they can without compromising quality.
made him ... want to be everywhere
there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."