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June 2nd Release Date? I'd think so

Guitarhero27Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
edited June 2009 in The Porch
Why not?

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  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,070
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    Why not?
    because Mike said last week- the fall :mrgreen:
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    My guess is Aug 24/25.
  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,070
    DewieCox wrote:
    My guess is Aug 24/25.
    sounds about right- I do think it will happen right before ACL
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  • Guitarhero27Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    LukinFan wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    My guess is Aug 24/25.
    sounds about right- I do think it will happen right before ACL

    Then why bother with the Conan show June 1st? Ok, Pearl Jam is playing new songs, to promote an upcoming album 3 months away? You don't take such a high profile show to promote something that's not ready for the public within a reasonable amount of time.

    Ok, so digital download available June 2nd while hard copy/expanded cd available in the fall.

    Let's see.
    9/29/96, 8/29/98, 9/8,11/98, 7/28/99, 8/23,24,25/00, 10/13/00, 4/15/03, 4/30/03, 7/8,9,12,14/03, 10/1/04, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 5/4,5,13,27,28/06, 6/1,3/06, 6/19,20,22,24,25,27/08, 7/1/08, 8/4,5,7,16/08, 8/21/09, 10/27,28,30,31/09, 5/15,17,18,20,21/10, 9/2/12, 10/18,19,21,22,25/13
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    LukinFan wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    My guess is Aug 24/25.
    sounds about right- I do think it will happen right before ACL

    Then why bother with the Conan show June 1st? Ok, Pearl Jam is playing new songs, to promote an upcoming album 3 months away? You don't take such a high profile show to promote something that's not ready for the public within a reasonable amount of time.

    Ok, so digital download available June 2nd while hard copy/expanded cd available in the fall.

    Let's see.

    Both make plenty of sense.
  • Hawk123Hawk123 Posts: 2,294
    June 2nd seems a bit early. I could see sometime in July at the earliest, most likely Aug/Sept though.
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,223
    Not sure about the credibility of this, but this was posted on the thread about the Europe shows..
    http://www.pearl-jam.de/index.php?topic ... #msg266727
    If that's an authentic poster, it's looking like September!
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

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  • Guitarhero27Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    a lot of things are temporary at the moment, seems as if UMG has the distribution rights to it, in which case if 10C decided to release it under the 10C/Monkeywrench label themselves, UMG would have no bother in promoting that, because they'd make their money through distribution sales, number of albums shipped etc.

    I'd say its very plausible for PJ to "pull a radiohead" in the sense of releasing the album to 10Clubbers first...

    But let's definately agree on the fact that the single (to be played on Conan) will be available June 2nd. Theres NO REASON why it would be any other date.
    9/29/96, 8/29/98, 9/8,11/98, 7/28/99, 8/23,24,25/00, 10/13/00, 4/15/03, 4/30/03, 7/8,9,12,14/03, 10/1/04, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 5/4,5,13,27,28/06, 6/1,3/06, 6/19,20,22,24,25,27/08, 7/1/08, 8/4,5,7,16/08, 8/21/09, 10/27,28,30,31/09, 5/15,17,18,20,21/10, 9/2/12, 10/18,19,21,22,25/13
  • brolocobroloco Posts: 1,237
    i don't. ha, ha.
    anyway thanks benjs for posting the poster up there. looks very legit, especially with the Universal logo. yeah, all real signs point toward the fall. these little appearances over the summer (Conan included) are just warm-ups of what's to come. fleshing stuff out, tweaking, etc.

    FALL
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,223
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    a lot of things are temporary at the moment, seems as if UMG has the distribution rights to it, in which case if 10C decided to release it under the 10C/Monkeywrench label themselves, UMG would have no bother in promoting that, because they'd make their money through distribution sales, number of albums shipped etc.

    I'd say its very plausible for PJ to "pull a radiohead" in the sense of releasing the album to 10Clubbers first...

    But let's definately agree on the fact that the single (to be played on Conan) will be available June 2nd. Theres NO REASON why it would be any other date.
    Also, in terms of "pulling a Radiohead", I'm pretty sure Radiohead had the record label only involved for the physical distribution of their album - not the digital download. I don't know about the technicalities behind doing "package" deals involving digital and physical mediums, but I wouldn't doubt that the band are looking doing something like that, where the band can deal with the digital distribution themselves, and let a label handle the physical distributions.
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

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  • finnanniefinnannie Posts: 1,186
    benjs wrote:
    Not sure about the credibility of this, but this was posted on the thread about the Europe shows..
    http://www.pearl-jam.de/index.php?topic ... #msg266727
    If that's an authentic poster, it's looking like September!
    :) yep.. looks like September.
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  • TravelarTravelar Kalamazoo, USA Posts: 3,413
    According to the guy who listened to the disc yesterday, the album doesn't even have a name yet. It's be a pretty big stretch to come up with a name and print a few hundred thousand copies and then ship them for distribution.
  • dislocateddislocated Posts: 599
    It will be released when it's released, I promise. Meanwhile enjoy the shit-tons (is that a word?) of PJ music that is already available to us.
  • Guitarhero27Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    TrAvELAr wrote:
    According to the guy who listened to the disc yesterday, the album doesn't even have a name yet. It's be a pretty big stretch to come up with a name and print a few hundred thousand copies and then ship them for distribution.

    hence a digital release in june with hard copies in sept
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  • U R A Crazy BreedU R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    broloco wrote:
    i don't. ha, ha.
    anyway thanks benjs for posting the poster up there. looks very legit, especially with the Universal logo. yeah, all real signs point toward the fall. these little appearances over the summer (Conan included) are just warm-ups of what's to come. fleshing stuff out, tweaking, etc.

    FALL

    i agree! fall release with a spring tour! (who the fuck wants to tour in the winter?)
  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,070
    benjs wrote:
    Not sure about the credibility of this, but this was posted on the thread about the Europe shows..
    http://www.pearl-jam.de/index.php?topic ... #msg266727
    If that's an authentic poster, it's looking like September!
    great find!!!!
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  • Guitarhero27Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    june 2nd...something will be released
    single/conan appearance/digital album/album sampler

    something will be avail for us.
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    finnannie wrote:
    benjs wrote:
    Not sure about the credibility of this, but this was posted on the thread about the Europe shows..
    http://www.pearl-jam.de/index.php?topic ... #msg266727
    If that's an authentic poster, it's looking like September!
    :) yep.. looks like September.



    Hmmm... and under Universal instead of Sony or J. I think Universal is the largest of all of them, if I remember correctly.
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,486
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    TrAvELAr wrote:
    According to the guy who listened to the disc yesterday, the album doesn't even have a name yet. It's be a pretty big stretch to come up with a name and print a few hundred thousand copies and then ship them for distribution.

    hence a digital release in june with hard copies in sept

    My guess, no way they will release the album digitally, and certainly not three months ahead of the official release date. They have always put a lot of effort into designing a package that you can hold and appreciate when you listen-I don't see that changing. But hey anything is possible!
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,223
    Get_Right wrote:
    Guitarhero27 wrote:
    TrAvELAr wrote:
    According to the guy who listened to the disc yesterday, the album doesn't even have a name yet. It's be a pretty big stretch to come up with a name and print a few hundred thousand copies and then ship them for distribution.

    hence a digital release in june with hard copies in sept

    My guess, no way they will release the album digitally, and certainly not three months ahead of the official release date. They have always put a lot of effort into designing a package that you can hold and appreciate when you listen-I don't see that changing. But hey anything is possible!
    First of all, it's not AT ALL like a digital release is exclusively digital.
    Second of all, if they want to get this album into the hands of the fans sooner rather than later, I don't see why they couldn't release it digitally early (giving the fans the ability to hear it early) and then physically later (giving the band the time they require to make this album's artwork the way they want it).
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
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  • Ryan_WFCRyan_WFC Posts: 1,350
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Hmmm... and under Universal instead of Sony or J. I think Universal is the largest of all of them, if I remember correctly.

    That's probably just for overseas distribution, but time will tell.

    I'd strongly assume they'll release at least a single 6/2 after playing it on Conan. After that, I'd think you'd want to keep that momentum going by having the album out no later than August -- which also makes sense in terms of having it out before the tour.
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  • DPrival78DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Hmmm... and under Universal instead of Sony or J. I think Universal is the largest of all of them, if I remember correctly.

    which explains the real reason they're doing conan.
    i'm more a fan of popular bands.. like the bee-gees, pearl jam
  • Guitarhero27Guitarhero27 Posts: 2,146
    Ryan_WFC wrote:
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Hmmm... and under Universal instead of Sony or J. I think Universal is the largest of all of them, if I remember correctly.

    That's probably just for overseas distribution, but time will tell.

    I'd strongly assume they'll release at least a single 6/2 after playing it on Conan. After that, I'd think you'd want to keep that momentum going by having the album out no later than August -- which also makes sense in terms of having it out before the tour.


    oh to also wish for a bonus dvd of the writing/recording process with the album would be every pj fan's dream....something similiar to QOTSA lullabies cd/dvd would be great!
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  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    I remember seeing a site showing release dates for upcoming albums. It sad Pearl Jam in June.

    Maybe MIke and Stone were fucking with us and its more completed then we think. I personally think it will be out in July.
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  • Ryan_WFCRyan_WFC Posts: 1,350
    12345AGNST1 wrote:
    I remember seeing a site showing release dates for upcoming albums. It sad Pearl Jam in June.

    Maybe MIke and Stone were fucking with us and its more completed then we think. I personally think it will be out in July.

    That's an interesting thought. All we really know for sure is they have two huge motivators (Conan and the tour) for releasing it before the fall.
    "They said ... timing was everything
    made him ... want to be everywhere
    there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    i'm thinking the autumn. why? b/c mike recently said autumn, actually late autumn. i'm not thinking late autumn, probably more like september.


    why do conan now? why not?
    it's a big coup for them both. big name band for his opening night....band linked with big opening show of new tonight show. win-win for both! generate buzz for both! this is for june 1st...who's to say pj can't play conan again in 3-4 months time when the new album releases? personally, i do not forsee a digital release preemptive of a hard copy, but who knows.....that's another discussion.
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  • Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,614
    End of June, early July.
    Turn this anger into
    Nuclear fission
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,486
    benjs wrote:
    if they want to get this album into the hands of the fans sooner rather than later,.

    who says they do? My guess is they are more interested in releasing physical copies of the new music, artwork and packaging included.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    My money's still on 2010.
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Get_Right wrote:
    benjs wrote:
    if they want to get this album into the hands of the fans sooner rather than later,.

    who says they do? My guess is they are more interested in releasing physical copies of the new music, artwork and packaging included.



    yea...i don't get the rush, now. 3 years have already gone by sinc eht elast album release, we're in the home stretch....what's the rush, or to think they'd want to hurry, to get it in fan's hands NOW? perhaps i am old school, but i really hope they release the hard copy album first, or at least simultaneously, with any digital DLs offerred. i don't need it *today*...i just want pj to put out the best album they can, on their schedule....and enjoy the build-up and anticipation to it's release.


    i don't understand why so many think playing conan on june 1st precludes instant album release. i think it's a great tease is all......... :mrgreen:
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