As for Sansa you picked the moment i think she changes. Perhaps it is at the sept during the beheading tha the gears start turning, but Sansa has to grow up very quickly. She is alone in a very dangerous place and all she can do is smile on the outside while she dies on the inside. Her whole idea of her perfect life shatters before her. When she almost pushes joffrey is when i started to say hmmm maybe i can like her.
I think in book one i hated sansa. Book two i started to sympathize and moveing forward i started rooting for her.
I dont remember sansa very much from the books anymore, but from the show and what i do remember i really think sansa got what she deserved. if she had any honor or respect for those around her heresituation wouldnt be what it is. i feel bad for everyone else that had to pay a price cause of sansa but she deserved what she got. if she wasnt such a whiny little liar that cant get her head out of the clouds, most of what happened could have been avoided, but nope she wanted her little fairy tale in a real world, and did anything to keep that childish dream alive.
i thinks that is just Sansa's journey so far.. like Daenerys started out as timid and her brother's pawn but found her strength and her identity as the "real dragon", Sansa started out as this superficial girl who likes fairytales and prince charming. she trusted the queen but is now disillusioned by her and Joffrey and realizes her mistake.. at least that's how i see.. i kind of feel bad for her and hope she gets to redeem herself in the future..
also.. is it just me or did she get really tall?
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mmm. Sansa started out all about the fairy tale now she is much smarter and knows what she has to do to survive and not be treated like a traitor (except by the prick Joffrey). I think they make that very clear.
Again, this episode was all over the place. If I didn't read the books I would be so lost!
Looking forward to next week cause a lot of shit is going down!
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Harrenhall looked good too. Enjoyed Arya's "prayers" at night.
So I finished the first audiobook over the weekend, and started listening to "A Clash of Kings" on my ride home from Portland, Maine yesterday evening in a lashing rainstorm. I was completely immersed in the book.
I had been at an agility tournament with the unlost dogs, and it was running late, so I ran them in the last class, jumped into the car, and drove home even before the scores were out. Had to be seated on the couch for GoT!
Not having read ahead of the TV show, that last scene was :shock: Major "WTF" moment.
And as I was showering this morning, I kept hearing "Joffrey. Cersei. Ilyn Paine. The Hound."
I'm really loving the opening sequence - I got all excited when they added Harrenhall this week. Arya's prayers were awesome, and it strayed from the book again, but I think it was all very well done.
My only question - why oh why do they keep skipping through the battle scenes??!!!
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mmm. Sansa started out all about the fairy tale now she is much smarter and knows what she has to do to survive and not be treated like a traitor (except by the prick Joffrey). I think they make that very clear.
Again, this episode was all over the place. If I didn't read the books I would be so lost!
Looking forward to next week cause a lot of shit is going down!
that makes me feel a bit better...I am ALWAYS lost!!!
So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
damn... I know I keep saying this every weekend, but I really need to sit down and catch up with the show... I haven't seen any of season 2 yet... between a dance with dragons and the hockey playoffs I've had no time...
hearing of Harrenhall and the shadow baby really makes me want to sit down and watch the new season though... maybe tonight I'll try and sneak in an episode...
On a side note - was anyone else as frustrated as i am with a dance with dragons and the timeline issues? I really don't like the fact that he essentially stepped back in time to re-tell the stories of those he left out of a clash with kings... knowing what's happened in other parts of the realm while following characters that are before that point in time... grr.... I really hope I'm in for a surprise with Davos is all I have to say!
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mmm. Sansa started out all about the fairy tale now she is much smarter and knows what she has to do to survive and not be treated like a traitor (except by the prick Joffrey). I think they make that very clear.
Again, this episode was all over the place. If I didn't read the books I would be so lost!
Looking forward to next week cause a lot of shit is going down!
that makes me feel a bit better...I am ALWAYS lost!!!
I re-watched season 1 after reading the book, and everything was much, much easier to follow and made a lot more sense... I'd highly recommend it!
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I'm really loving the opening sequence - I got all excited when they added Harrenhall this week. Arya's prayers were awesome, and it strayed from the book again, but I think it was all very well done.
My only question - why oh why do they keep skipping through the battle scenes??!!!
Money- they don't have the budget to do them all- but I read they put a lot of the budget towards the Blackwater episode.. thankfully
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I'm really loving the opening sequence - I got all excited when they added Harrenhall this week. Arya's prayers were awesome, and it strayed from the book again, but I think it was all very well done.
My only question - why oh why do they keep skipping through the battle scenes??!!!
Money- they don't have the budget to do them all- but I read they put a lot of the budget towards the Blackwater episode.. thankfully
I was thinking the same thing _ they must be prohibitively expensive to try to do on a TV show budget.
I guess overall, I'd rather have them skip the battle scenes than try to do them cheaply and have it come off poorly executed. (No pun intended.)
I'm really loving the opening sequence - I got all excited when they added Harrenhall this week. Arya's prayers were awesome, and it strayed from the book again, but I think it was all very well done.
My only question - why oh why do they keep skipping through the battle scenes??!!!
Money- they don't have the budget to do them all- but I read they put a lot of the budget towards the Blackwater episode.. thankfully
I was thinking the same thing _ they must be prohibitively expensive to try to do on a TV show budget.
I guess overall, I'd rather have them skip the battle scenes than try to do them cheaply and have it come off poorly executed. (No pun intended.)
100% agree. I'd rather have them go light on the multiple "mini-battles" and go big for the big battle...
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I'm really loving the opening sequence - I got all excited when they added Harrenhall this week. Arya's prayers were awesome, and it strayed from the book again, but I think it was all very well done.
My only question - why oh why do they keep skipping through the battle scenes??!!!
Money- they don't have the budget to do them all- but I read they put a lot of the budget towards the Blackwater episode.. thankfully
I think money is one of the issues, but I think it also has a lot to do with the characters too.
Of the characters GRRM uses to tell the story, most of them aren't usually involved in the big battles... For the most part, they are on the sides when the war is raging and we here about battles after, at the same time they do... at least through the first two books...
The battle of the blackwater is where that really starts to change though, as both Tyrion and Davos give first hand accounts of that battle... So I would anticipate a few big budget scenes when that heats up...
This changes a little bit after A clash of kings and as you get into a storm of swords... even more so in a feast for crows...
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I'm really loving the opening sequence - I got all excited when they added Harrenhall this week. Arya's prayers were awesome, and it strayed from the book again, but I think it was all very well done.
My only question - why oh why do they keep skipping through the battle scenes??!!!
Money- they don't have the budget to do them all- but I read they put a lot of the budget towards the Blackwater episode.. thankfully
Aww chit I hope so - that's going to be AMAZING!
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I watched the first 2 episodes of S02 back to back last night... hoping to get to episodes 3 and 4 tomorrow... unfortunately game 7's take priority...
not sure how I feel about a lot of the new characters... I pictured Stannis to be bigger, more imtimidating and balder... the red priestess to not be so attractive... Craster to be much more hideous...
I really like the casting of Davos and Sallador Saan... very nice editions...
Not too sure how I feel about the variations from the book either... but I guess it was enevitable.... I don't remember Stannis screwing the red priestess (I guess they're trying to better explain the shadow baby)... and I know Jon Snow seeing craster sacrifice a son to the white walkers didn't happen in the books... it was only ever implied...
That scene where they killed all Robert's bastards was intense.... and the direwolves look awesome...
I'm excited to see all the new characters they will have to roll out in the coming episodes with Catelyn going to see Renly... I don't know how I'm going to wait until the third season for them to bring out the Red Viper, and season 4 for the rest of the characters from Dorne....
anyway, hopefully I'll catch up to everyone else tomorrow night!
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I'd like to see a face-off between King Joffrey armed with his crossbow vs. Carl Grimes from "The Walking Dead" toting the handgun he stole from Daryl Dixon.
Those two annoying boys, in The Arena from "The Hunger Games."
If they screw up the red viper in any way im giving up on the show at that point.
I really like all the characters from Dorne that get introduced in the 4th book too... I hope they don't screw any of them up...
I also hope they do a good job casting Darkstar.... I know he's had such an insignificant role so far, but I think GRRM is going to do something big with him eventually... I mean with all the character build up, he seems so badass.... although maybe he'll re-appear in ADWD... hopefully! i've still got 600 pages left to go...
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I'd like to see a face-off between King Joffrey armed with his crossbow vs. Carl Grimes from "The Walking Dead" toting the handgun he stole from Daryl Dixon.
Those two annoying boys, in The Arena from "The Hunger Games."
Only one can come out alive.
:corn:
Oh you just went full nerd there.
and I love it
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I'd like to see a face-off between King Joffrey armed with his crossbow vs. Carl Grimes from "The Walking Dead" toting the handgun he stole from Daryl Dixon.
Those two annoying boys, in The Arena from "The Hunger Games."
Only one can come out alive.
:corn:
Oh you just went full nerd there.
and I love it
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I dont remember sansa very much from the books anymore, but from the show and what i do remember i really think sansa got what she deserved. if she had any honor or respect for those around her heresituation wouldnt be what it is. i feel bad for everyone else that had to pay a price cause of sansa but she deserved what she got. if she wasnt such a whiny little liar that cant get her head out of the clouds, most of what happened could have been avoided, but nope she wanted her little fairy tale in a real world, and did anything to keep that childish dream alive.
also.. is it just me or did she get really tall?
Oh. Just watched it. Oh. That last image...
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Again, this episode was all over the place. If I didn't read the books I would be so lost!
Looking forward to next week cause a lot of shit is going down!
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So I finished the first audiobook over the weekend, and started listening to "A Clash of Kings" on my ride home from Portland, Maine yesterday evening in a lashing rainstorm. I was completely immersed in the book.
I had been at an agility tournament with the unlost dogs, and it was running late, so I ran them in the last class, jumped into the car, and drove home even before the scores were out. Had to be seated on the couch for GoT!
Not having read ahead of the TV show, that last scene was :shock: Major "WTF" moment.
And as I was showering this morning, I kept hearing "Joffrey. Cersei. Ilyn Paine. The Hound."
And I'm glad Daenerys is out of the desert.
I'm liking The Hound. He's kind to Sansa.
is this what is being referred to in the WOW comment previously?
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My only question - why oh why do they keep skipping through the battle scenes??!!!
that makes me feel a bit better...I am ALWAYS lost!!!
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
hearing of Harrenhall and the shadow baby really makes me want to sit down and watch the new season though... maybe tonight I'll try and sneak in an episode...
On a side note - was anyone else as frustrated as i am with a dance with dragons and the timeline issues? I really don't like the fact that he essentially stepped back in time to re-tell the stories of those he left out of a clash with kings... knowing what's happened in other parts of the realm while following characters that are before that point in time... grr.... I really hope I'm in for a surprise with Davos is all I have to say!
I re-watched season 1 after reading the book, and everything was much, much easier to follow and made a lot more sense... I'd highly recommend it!
Money- they don't have the budget to do them all- but I read they put a lot of the budget towards the Blackwater episode.. thankfully
I was thinking the same thing _ they must be prohibitively expensive to try to do on a TV show budget.
I guess overall, I'd rather have them skip the battle scenes than try to do them cheaply and have it come off poorly executed. (No pun intended.)
100% agree. I'd rather have them go light on the multiple "mini-battles" and go big for the big battle...
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I think money is one of the issues, but I think it also has a lot to do with the characters too.
Of the characters GRRM uses to tell the story, most of them aren't usually involved in the big battles... For the most part, they are on the sides when the war is raging and we here about battles after, at the same time they do... at least through the first two books...
The battle of the blackwater is where that really starts to change though, as both Tyrion and Davos give first hand accounts of that battle... So I would anticipate a few big budget scenes when that heats up...
This changes a little bit after A clash of kings and as you get into a storm of swords... even more so in a feast for crows...
Aww chit I hope so - that's going to be AMAZING!
not sure how I feel about a lot of the new characters... I pictured Stannis to be bigger, more imtimidating and balder... the red priestess to not be so attractive... Craster to be much more hideous...
I really like the casting of Davos and Sallador Saan... very nice editions...
Not too sure how I feel about the variations from the book either... but I guess it was enevitable.... I don't remember Stannis screwing the red priestess (I guess they're trying to better explain the shadow baby)... and I know Jon Snow seeing craster sacrifice a son to the white walkers didn't happen in the books... it was only ever implied...
That scene where they killed all Robert's bastards was intense.... and the direwolves look awesome...
I'm excited to see all the new characters they will have to roll out in the coming episodes with Catelyn going to see Renly... I don't know how I'm going to wait until the third season for them to bring out the Red Viper, and season 4 for the rest of the characters from Dorne....
anyway, hopefully I'll catch up to everyone else tomorrow night!
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Those two annoying boys, in The Arena from "The Hunger Games."
Only one can come out alive.
:corn:
I really like all the characters from Dorne that get introduced in the 4th book too... I hope they don't screw any of them up...
I also hope they do a good job casting Darkstar.... I know he's had such an insignificant role so far, but I think GRRM is going to do something big with him eventually... I mean with all the character build up, he seems so badass.... although maybe he'll re-appear in ADWD... hopefully! i've still got 600 pages left to go...
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