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  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,167
    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    yosi wrote:
    Where has Santana gone? Why does he suck so much recently? Its absolutely killing me.

    It appears his velocity was down. He threw 25 pitches at 90 or above and none over 91. In the nine-run fourth, his final 13 pitches were in the mid to high 80s and only one was at 90 (the Matsui home run).

    The Santana that I've seen throws slightly harder than that and a slight loss in velocity combined with poor location/execution is a deadly combination for anyone.

    That being said, Santana's track record would lead me to believe that this was just a blip. (assuming he's not hurt).

    I would believe that its just a blip too, if his 3 or so starts before yesterday weren't so mediocre too. I really believe he's injured the Mets just aren't saying anything... It definitely wouldn't be the first time...
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  • Phantom Pain
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    HOLY CRAP !!!

    Reyes has surgery, expected to miss 12-18 months


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  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    To bad it wasn't jose.
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,448
    metsfan wrote:
    To bad it wasn't jose.

    way to wish your starting shortstop to be injured for a year and a half, i mean especially since alex cora is so good as the leadoff hitter.........
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  • Gary Carter
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    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    To bad it wasn't jose.

    way to wish your starting shortstop to be injured for a year and a half, i mean especially since alex cora is so good as the leadoff hitter.........
    least cora isn't immature and is actually a leader. I've hated jose from day one. He's got all the talent in the world but yet doesn't realize it. He rather showboat and make simple baserunning errors. I'd be the first person to not miss jose.
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  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,448
    metsfan wrote:
    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    To bad it wasn't jose.

    way to wish your starting shortstop to be injured for a year and a half, i mean especially since alex cora is so good as the leadoff hitter.........
    least cora isn't immature and is actually a leader. I've hated jose from day one. He's got all the talent in the world but yet doesn't realize it. He rather showboat and make simple baserunning errors. I'd be the first person to not miss jose.

    not if the replacement is alex cora, there's a reason why certain guys are backups.
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  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    I'd take cora anyday of the week over jose. Least cora would run to 1st base on infield pop fly. Jose would just stand there and stare at it.
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  • spat
    spat Posts: 644
    metsfan wrote:
    I'd take cora anyday of the week over jose. Least cora would run to 1st base on infield pop fly. Jose would just stand there and stare at it.

    wasn't that hernandez? (one of the hernandez's) unless jose did it too
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  • The Champ
    The Champ Posts: 4,063
    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    Pedro's asking price is too high for teams. It's one thing to give an incentive-laden five million deal to him, quite another to guarantee that amount, especially when you can't guarantee how healthy he is, which we saw during the last three years of his deal.

    Yeah, I wish he'd drop the asking price..I mean, what is it with these fucking people? They are already millionaires..is there really such a difference between 5 million and 2 million per year, especially just to play a game..jesus fuck..guess he really doesn't want to play..
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  • The Champ
    The Champ Posts: 4,063
    yosi wrote:
    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    yosi wrote:
    Where has Santana gone? Why does he suck so much recently? Its absolutely killing me.

    It appears his velocity was down. He threw 25 pitches at 90 or above and none over 91. In the nine-run fourth, his final 13 pitches were in the mid to high 80s and only one was at 90 (the Matsui home run).

    The Santana that I've seen throws slightly harder than that and a slight loss in velocity combined with poor location/execution is a deadly combination for anyone.

    That being said, Santana's track record would lead me to believe that this was just a blip. (assuming he's not hurt).

    I would believe that its just a blip too, if his 3 or so starts before yesterday weren't so mediocre too. I really believe he's injured the Mets just aren't saying anything... It definitely wouldn't be the first time...

    Yeah, what else could be a logical reason? It's not just one bad outing..he better fucking step up big against Tampa..

    Oh, and a gigantic handwave to the uttah nonsense talk about Cora filling Jose's shoes..ridiculous, though I do like Cora's fighting spirit..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,167
    The Champ wrote:
    yosi wrote:
    I would believe that its just a blip too, if his 3 or so starts before yesterday weren't so mediocre too. I really believe he's injured the Mets just aren't saying anything... It definitely wouldn't be the first time...

    Yeah, what else could be a logical reason? It's not just one bad outing..he better fucking step up big against Tampa..

    Oh, and a gigantic handwave to the uttah nonsense talk about Cora filling Jose's shoes..ridiculous, though I do like Cora's fighting spirit..

    Cora has done a commendable job, but seriously, this talk about Cora taking Jose's place is just a way for people to jump on the bash Reyes bandwagon, even though he's a great player.

    Sigh... I just want the Mets to go on a 10 game winning streak, we really could use one of those right now...
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  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,448
    Oh, and a gigantic handwave to the uttah nonsense talk about Cora filling Jose's shoes..ridiculous, though I do like Cora's fighting spirit..[/quote]

    I like the fighting spirit, but it would qualify as a giant handwave. Today's gem was someone trying to say the cause of Santana's bad starts were the bad karma he created by commenting on Murphy dropping the flyball in Florida in the second start of the season.
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    Chicago 2007
    Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
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    Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
    Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
    Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
    Fenway 2, 2018
    MSG 2022
    St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
    MSG 2024, MSG 2024
    Philadelphia 2024
    "I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
    can do. I don't go and say,
    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
  • The Champ
    The Champ Posts: 4,063
    Nice win tonight. I can't believe that we have been able to somewhat keep pace and stay alive given our extensive injury situation..only 3 games back now....anyone else see Wright blow up on Pelfrey in the dugout? He is the fucking leader of this club without a doubt..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,167
    The Champ wrote:
    I can't believe that we have been able to somewhat keep pace and stay alive given our extensive injury situation..only 3 games back now....

    Its pretty ridiculous, the way the teams been playing, we don't even really deserve to be that close.
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  • spat
    spat Posts: 644
    The Champ wrote:
    Nice win tonight. I can't believe that we have been able to somewhat keep pace and stay alive given our extensive injury situation..only 3 games back now....anyone else see Wright blow up on Pelfrey in the dugout? He is the fucking leader of this club without a doubt..

    I missed the game, what happened with Wright and Pelfrey?
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  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,167
    spat wrote:
    The Champ wrote:
    Nice win tonight. I can't believe that we have been able to somewhat keep pace and stay alive given our extensive injury situation..only 3 games back now....anyone else see Wright blow up on Pelfrey in the dugout? He is the fucking leader of this club without a doubt..

    I missed the game, what happened with Wright and Pelfrey?

    Wright basically got in Pelfrey's face in the dugout and was like "you pitched well, but you shouldn't be satisfied with how you pitched. You're a great pitcher and you can do even better." Wright is really beginning to step into the leadership role on and off the field too. He's been going out to the mound a bunch recently to try and settle the pitchers down. Its great to see.
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  • The Champ
    The Champ Posts: 4,063
    Well, I guess that's it guys as it looks like Beltran will go on the DL before too long..there is always next year..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    You can think our genius gm mr. Omar for this mess. He's done nothing but put this back a few years. Farm system is dry as it could be. I hope the muts miss the playoffs again and wilpon cleans house. I'd get rid of omar and manuel and trade away reyes. Its time to make a major move. This core is going on 4 years now and hasn't done a thing but choke.
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,448
    as one caller said to francesa today, that really is a value team out on the field tonight...
    Reading 2004
    Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
    Chicago 2007
    Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
    Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
    Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
    Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
    Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
    Fenway 2, 2018
    MSG 2022
    St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
    MSG 2024, MSG 2024
    Philadelphia 2024
    "I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
    can do. I don't go and say,
    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
  • The Champ
    The Champ Posts: 4,063
    metsfan wrote:
    You can think our genius gm mr. Omar for this mess. He's done nothing but put this back a few years. Farm system is dry as it could be. I hope the muts miss the playoffs again and wilpon cleans house. I'd get rid of omar and manuel and trade away reyes. Its time to make a major move. This core is going on 4 years now and hasn't done a thing but choke.

    They should build around Beltran and Wright..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'

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