*****The Official 2009 Philadelphia Eagles Thread*****

The Juggler

petrocs wrote:

I have officially called it a season on this team...I tried and tried and tried to stick by these 2 but they are going NOWHERE with McNabb and Reid..wake me up when they're gone

will do.

come on man. you know this team's MO. the 2nd half schedule does not appear to be as tough as it originally looked. yes, we looked awful yesterday. but i would not be surprised if we win our next few games. i think we'll be in the hunt right to the end. we're only a game out of first and in the playoffs if it ended today.

all that said--i still say we need to make a coaching change if we don't at least make it as far as we did last year. yes, we've had lots of injuries this year. but you can realistically pin all 3 close losses squarely on the shoulders of the fat man.

i'm not giving up on the season though. no way.

Flagg

I still think this thing comes down to Cowboys/Eagles in the last game of the year. Eagles are trying hard to prove me wrong, and so did Dallas yesterday, but I agree with Jeagler on this one thing. The Eagles have a tendency to fall apart mid-way through and then rally. It coincides with the Dallas MO of rallying early and tren falling apart late.

The Juggler

Flagg wrote:

I still think this thing comes down to Cowboys/Eagles in the last game of the year. Eagles are trying hard to prove me wrong, and so did Dallas yesterday, but I agree with Jeagler on this one thing. The Eagles have a tendency to fall apart mid-way through and then rally. It coincides with the Dallas MO of rallying early and tren falling apart late.

yup. this season seems strangely familiar.

pearljgirl2010

The Jeagler wrote:

petrocs wrote:

I have officially called it a season on this team...I tried and tried and tried to stick by these 2 but they are going NOWHERE with McNabb and Reid..wake me up when they're gone

will do.

come on man. you know this team's MO. the 2nd half schedule does not appear to be as tough as it originally looked. yes, we looked awful yesterday. but i would not be surprised if we win our next few games. i think we'll be in the hunt right to the end. we're only a game out of first and in the playoffs if it ended today.

all that said--i still say we need to make a coaching change if we don't at least make it as far as we did last year. yes, we've had lots of injuries this year. but you can realistically pin all 3 close losses squarely on the shoulders of the fat man.

i'm not giving up on the season though. no way.

but...but...that's what I was gonna say!!! Andy made poor coaching decisions during games that the team wasn't looking good...bad combination, that is.

I'll still be wearing my Eagles gear and rooting for my team...I think we still have a chance and I can't wait to watch these next few wins!!!!

The Juggler

pearljgirl2010 wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

petrocs wrote:

I have officially called it a season on this team...I tried and tried and tried to stick by these 2 but they are going NOWHERE with McNabb and Reid..wake me up when they're gone

will do.

come on man. you know this team's MO. the 2nd half schedule does not appear to be as tough as it originally looked. yes, we looked awful yesterday. but i would not be surprised if we win our next few games. i think we'll be in the hunt right to the end. we're only a game out of first and in the playoffs if it ended today.

all that said--i still say we need to make a coaching change if we don't at least make it as far as we did last year. yes, we've had lots of injuries this year. but you can realistically pin all 3 close losses squarely on the shoulders of the fat man.

i'm not giving up on the season though. no way.

but...but...that's what I was gonna say!!! Andy made poor coaching decisions during games that the team wasn't looking good...bad combination, that is.

I'll still be wearing my Eagles gear and rooting for my team...I think we still have a chance and I can't wait to watch these next few wins!!!!

ever the optimist! :thumbup:

pjhawks

man some of you jump ship awfully quick - we went through this last year. We lost a game to a good team on the road - the world is not ending. This team will be fine - and Reid and McNabb are the best we ever had - stop it people. Not running the ball had nothing to do with losing the game - another tired argument by so-called Eagles fans and the media. we didn't score touchdowns - that is why we lost. We will be fine - 10-6 right there for the division title again for like the 10th out of 11 years for Andy and Donovan.

pjhawks

petrocs wrote:

I have officially called it a season on this team...I tried and tried and tried to stick by these 2 but they are going NOWHERE with McNabb and Reid..wake me up when they're gone

i'm sure you did the same last year but were right there during the NFC Championship with your jersey and saying what a great fan you are. see bandwagon, don't hurt your ankles too much jumping on and off

The Juggler

pjhawks wrote:

petrocs wrote:

I have officially called it a season on this team...I tried and tried and tried to stick by these 2 but they are going NOWHERE with McNabb and Reid..wake me up when they're gone

i'm sure you did the same last year but were right there during the NFC Championship with your jersey and saying what a great fan you are. see bandwagon, don't hurt your ankles too much jumping on and off

oh jesus....you're the bandwagon guy from last year right?

pjhawks

The Jeagler wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

petrocs wrote:

I have officially called it a season on this team...I tried and tried and tried to stick by these 2 but they are going NOWHERE with McNabb and Reid..wake me up when they're gone

i'm sure you did the same last year but were right there during the NFC Championship with your jersey and saying what a great fan you are. see bandwagon, don't hurt your ankles too much jumping on and off

oh jesus....you're the bandwagon guy from last year right?

yes I am - sorry it is just nauseating to listen to 'so-called' fans jump ship and rip on this team every time they lose a game. Of course each year they all come back when Andy and Donovon lead another charge into the playoffs - please don't deny what I am saying is true.

The Juggler

pjhawks wrote:

man some of you jump ship awfully quick - we went through this last year. We lost a game to a good team on the road - the world is not ending. This team will be fine - and Reid and McNabb are the best we ever had - stop it people. Not running the ball had nothing to do with losing the game - another tired argument by so-called Eagles fans and the media. we didn't score touchdowns - that is why we lost. We will be fine - 10-6 right there for the division title again for like the 10th out of 11 years for Andy and Donovan.

so you don't think running the ball 13 times for 30 yards or so had nothing to do with the chargers not buying that pathetic play fake at the goal line? :roll:

look, i agree, we'll be right in the mix at the end like always. i said as much earlier. i also agree reid and mcnabb are the best we've ever had. but if the season ends the way the last 11 have, it's time for a change. like banner said last year, you can't keep doing the same thing and expect different results.

mike shannahan was the best the broncos ever had. he won 2 super bowls and still got fired....and he did it with elway when his prior coaches could not do it. i think its only logical to think he may be able to do the same with donovan if we don't get to the promised land again this year. same offensive philosophy too--except shannahan actually believes in the run.

.....but alas, this is a conversation for january. i think we'll right the ship and be in the mix. last game of the season is going to be FUN

The Juggler

pjhawks wrote:

The Jeagler wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

oh jesus....you're the bandwagon guy from last year right?

yes I am - sorry it is just nauseating to listen to 'so-called' fans jump ship and rip on this team every time they lose a game. Of course each year they all come back when Andy and Donovon lead another charge into the playoffs - please don't deny what I am saying is true.

at what point did i say that was not true?....

petrocs

Bandwagon? no. I've lived and died with this team and every team I follow. I've been frustrated with teams in the past and I've gotten angry over losses and said things out of frustration but this time I've had enough of Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb. Its time for a change. Thanks for the 5 NFC Championship games. Thanks for the Super Bowl appearance. Now theres the door. I dont jump on bandwagons.

pjhawks

petrocs wrote:

Bandwagon? no. I've lived and died with this team and every team I follow. I've been frustrated with teams in the past and I've gotten angry over losses and said things out of frustration but this time I've had enough of Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb. Its time for a change. Thanks for the 5 NFC Championship games. Thanks for the Super Bowl appearance. Now theres the door. I dont jump on bandwagons.

ok ill file this away and come back to this thread at the end of the season to see if you are back or are truly 'done with this team' - my guess is you will be back

petrocs

pjhawks wrote:

petrocs wrote:

Bandwagon? no. I've lived and died with this team and every team I follow. I've been frustrated with teams in the past and I've gotten angry over losses and said things out of frustration but this time I've had enough of Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb. Its time for a change. Thanks for the 5 NFC Championship games. Thanks for the Super Bowl appearance. Now theres the door. I dont jump on bandwagons.

ok ill file this away and come back to this thread at the end of the season to see if you are back or are truly 'done with this team' - my guess is you will be back

You guess all you want. If the Eagles make it to the Super Bowl this season and Andy Reid and McNabb get to ride down the street on a float good for them..just make sure you get them to pack their bags before the celebration so they can get THE HELL OUT afterwards. But I dont see that happening. I'd eve keep McNabb for another season..MAYBE..I just want Reid and his terrible play calling OUT

jamminpearls

I would never give up on the eagles. And i wouldnt be suprised if they went on a run like last year. But i do think its time for change and there are many good coaches sitting out there at the moment. Andy Reid is a damn good coach but his way wins games not titles. D-Mac is the greatest Eagles qb ever but he wins games not titles. And i know u have to win games to even sniff a title but its the same story with the same ending. I will root for this team like they are 9-0 but in my opinion think that even if they make a run and make it to the superbowl next year change is needed.

Phantom Pain

pjhawks wrote:

man some of you jump ship awfully quick - we went through this last year. We lost a game to a good team on the road - the world is not ending. This team will be fine - and Reid and McNabb are the best we ever had - stop it people. Not running the ball had nothing to do with losing the game - another tired argument by so-called Eagles fans and the media. we didn't score touchdowns - that is why we lost. We will be fine - 10-6 right there for the division title again for like the 10th out of 11 years for Andy and Donovan.

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid

"So close..oh we were just a play away..oh we had the game in our hands...if it wasnt for that damn late interception..if we only had a timeout" excuses for the last 11 years

Playoffs are great..obviously you're happy with getting close every year and not winning..you're the perfect fan for this organ-i-zation..you fit the Gold Standard of being an Eagle Fan

Some fans are fed up with the same old shit every year..call me a bandwagon fan if you want but we're living in reality

pearljgirl2010

Phantom Pain wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid

"So close..oh we were just a play away..oh we had the game in our hands...if it wasnt for that damn late interception..if we only had a timeout" excuses for the last 11 years

Playoffs are great..obviously you're happy with getting close every year and not winning..you're the perfect fan for this organ-i-zation..you fit the Gold Standard of being an Eagle Fan

Some fans are fed up with the same old shit every year..call me a bandwagon fan if you want but we're living in reality

Man, some of you guys are awfully cranky this morning!!!! OF COURSE we don't like losing. YES, we want to win a Superbowl and not just win games...I don't think there's a fan of any sport that is alright with just doing average.

I'm also not going to go cry in my cornflakes and say "woe is me, we didn't win, blah blah blah." I'm going to look forward to the next game and expect to win. I always expect them to win...I get bummed when we lose or when we play bad, and I get stoked when we win...isn't that what most fans do?

jamminpearls

pearljgirl2010 wrote:

Phantom Pain wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid

"So close..oh we were just a play away..oh we had the game in our hands...if it wasnt for that damn late interception..if we only had a timeout" excuses for the last 11 years

Playoffs are great..obviously you're happy with getting close every year and not winning..you're the perfect fan for this organ-i-zation..you fit the Gold Standard of being an Eagle Fan

Some fans are fed up with the same old shit every year..call me a bandwagon fan if you want but we're living in reality

Man, some of you guys are awfully cranky this morning!!!! OF COURSE we don't like losing. YES, we want to win a Superbowl and not just win games...I don't think there's a fan of any sport that is alright with just doing average.

I'm also not going to go cry in my cornflakes and say "woe is me, we didn't win, blah blah blah." I'm going to look forward to the next game and expect to win. I always expect them to win...I get bummed when we lose or when we play bad, and I get stoked when we win...isn't that what most fans do?

I dont think anyone is crying,just stating concerns that pop up EVERY year. In years past it wasnt such a big deal because we were so much better then the other nfc teams.But when a slightly above average team keeps making these same mistakes fans arent as forgiven. Which is why the past couple of years the reid and mcnabb abuse has gotten worse. Im not gonna cry about the lose but express concern and hope that the front office has seen enough to say thank you for 11 or so great years but its time to move on. Being good is fine for a while but at some point u want greatness. And i dont believe these 2 together can bring greatness here anymore. Theres no doubt that they can give us good seasons,and i know that any team can get hot a win the superbowl. But this group has showed that even when they are great its just not enough. d-Mac and Andy are a very pretty silver medal that just cant reach gold and gold is the goal when u start out the season. Which makes silver a loser just like all the rest. Silver was good years ago but once u are silver only gold will do. Ty andy and d-mac wish u all the best whether its here or else where but imo i want change and im as big as a EAGLES fan as anyone.

Jearlpam0925

This team is riddled with injuries and other miscellanea of crap. You're not going to win when you throw the ball 55 times, run ELDRA FUCKING BUCKLEY on the 1 inch line instead of handing off to 250+ lbs of Leonard Weaver more than once, and concede to your offensive line that you have no confidence in them and kick field goals all day. Receiving corps is down to 4 receivers with one being incompetent(Reggie Brown), offensive line is thin, a linebacking group that has Gocong in the middle and Moises Fokou at Sam back, secondary has Sheldon Brown absent figuratively, Hanson absent literally, Samuel sucking his thumb, and DMITRI PATTERSON GETTING A MAJORITY OF SNAPS. No, this is not going to end well. Injuries have killed this season. There's no way they only lose two more games.

petrocs

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

This team is riddled with injuries and other miscellanea of crap. You're not going to win when you throw the ball 55 times, run ELDRA FUCKING BUCKLEY on the 1 inch line instead of handing off to 250+ lbs of Leonard Weaver more than once, and concede to your offensive line that you have no confidence in them and kick field goals all day. Receiving corps is down to 4 receivers with one being incompetent(Reggie Brown), offensive line is thin, a linebacking group that has Gocong in the middle and Moises Fokou at Sam back, secondary has Sheldon Brown absent figuratively, Hanson absent literally, Samuel sucking his thumb, and DMITRI PATTERSON GETTING A MAJORITY OF SNAPS. No, this is not going to end well. Injuries have killed this season. There's no way they only lose two more games.

Then it is up to the GENERAL MANAGER to have compitent backups. Teams have injuries..it happens...but when you have to relie up unused or just plain terrible backups its difficult to field a team. Andy Reid has always been to blame for the teams makeup..give the job up to someone else and let them be responsible and you concentrate on updating that playbook. On a side note and nothing to do with my previous comment..Can you honestly believe we wasted a roster position on Vick?! Use the friggin guy! He comes in to hand off? He looks timid and the plays NEVER WORK.