dear gawd....if you take those seriously...there's no hope. truly. hahahahahahaha.
expressing love of country, patriotism, respect, unity....all sorts of things, you'd have to ask each individual american who flyies their flag why they do so.
and even if others share your opinion...it's STILL opinion!
and alrighty then! who told you not to discuss? i merely questioned why...and now you answered...basically for the fuck of it. gotcha.
why do we talk about ANYTHING? Unless we do something about what we're talking about, we're only discussing it for the fuck of it. Am I wrong???
And you should know, I take very little seriously.
It may be still opinion but it's not just MY opinion... why does it bother you so much that I said something and forgot to put 'IN MY OPINION' after it???
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
so you didn't see jaegler's constant posts about how we're anti-american? :? dunno how you could miss them. You say it's your choice for freedom of expression... good for you... but I still fail to see what it is you're expressing?
o.
my "constant posts?" are you fucking nuts helen? i hinted at it in ONE post. then you said you were not. then i dropped it. if your definition of "constant" is one, and a follow up post to defend myself, then i apologize. i just dont see why you and dunk are so preoccupied with what we americans do over here. if you dont care about it, why keep posting and posting and posting about it? i dont get you crazy europeans sometimes
oh, and the fucking point of this whole thread was to talk about the united state's biased media....not some offhanded comment the jeagler made after the fact. you guys are nuts! love ya!
it's a discussion board!!!!
because we can discuss!!!!
you don't need to care about a topic at all to post continually about it!!!!
it's all just because we're on a discussion board to discuss things...no matter the topic.....no matter the cares.......and it doesn't mean anything!!!
btw - i think someone seriously needs to alert ringling bros and barnum bailey circus how arrogant and silly and out of hand insulting they are by calling their circus show 'the greatest show on earth!' how dare they! did they go and see 64,232.0023142 more shows to compare before making that proclamation...insulting countless other circuses?! someone alert the media........
of course, the media is so biased....i think they've been supporting cirque de soleil for years now.......;)
oh, and the fucking point of this whole thread was to talk about the united state's biased media....not some offhanded comment the jeagler made after the fact. you guys are nuts! love ya!
Look what you did, just look at it!!!! 25+ pages, WTF!!!
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
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what ever???? now thats serious fucking debating...
well yes, that's ignorant. i'm not arguing that! it's on both sides here.
well i do get a lot of that in threads of this nature.
i dont get the idea of 'tipping'.. so i say so... and i get replies to me after that of "cheap ass scots" and things like that...
i dont get the idea of needing a gun... i say so.,.. i get told america is the freest nation in the world so shut up.
i dont get needless boasting like 'greatest nation in the world.. so i say i dont and we end up with this... a thread in which americans try and tell me its their culture and it does you no harm, so why bother?
i bother because i can...
its a very very rare thing that an american will be on this forum who doesnt like an aspect of their culture and is prepared to say it .. probably for fear of them being labelled unpatriotic... whereas i dont care.. be it scotland or the US... if something doesnt sit right with me, i like to probe it and question why.
british/irish people will say about things in their culture that they dont particulary like... not once would they get a retort from a fellow countryman of being unpatriotic... but an american could and probably has been labelled unpatriotic on here... it was probably Commy but thats cos he questions a lot of things in his society.
Dream, i dont believe anyone has been harmed by bad spelling... but it 'irks' you doesnt it.... so why bother saying about it? why not just do whats being asked of me here... sit back, shut up and say nothing.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
oh, and the fucking point of this whole thread was to talk about the united state's biased media....not some offhanded comment the jeagler made after the fact. you guys are nuts! love ya!
Look what you did, just look at it!!!! 25+ pages, WTF!!!
dear gawd....if you take those seriously...there's no hope. truly. hahahahahahaha.
expressing love of country, patriotism, respect, unity....all sorts of things, you'd have to ask each individual american who flyies their flag why they do so.
and even if others share your opinion...it's STILL opinion!
and alrighty then! who told you not to discuss? i merely questioned why...and now you answered...basically for the fuck of it. gotcha.
why do we talk about ANYTHING? Unless we do something about what we're talking about, we're only discussing it for the fuck of it. Am I wrong???
And you should know, I take very little seriously.
It may be still opinion but it's not just MY opinion... why does it bother you so much that I said something and forgot to put 'IN MY OPINION' after it???
make up your mind....you quote the jeagler as giving lots of anti-american posts...so i assume you are using said comments as 'serious' debate....then you say you take little seriously.....so then, huh? don't put forth a serious argument using things you don't take seriously.
you make a declarative statement that it IS silly, there is NO reason.....people give you reasons...and yet, still not enough...you say more of the same.......so yes, parading opinion as fact, i dislike...always have. dunk should add that to the list he's compiled of things that irk me and that i debate passionately. :P it's not so much that you need to continaully add 'imo'......just not present yours or even others' opinions as something declarative, as if it *proves* it's silly, or serves no purpose/reason...b/c it doesn't. btw - chiqui clearly stated that in the post you missed.
btw - i think someone seriously needs to alert ringling bros and barnum bailey circus how arrogant and silly and out of hand insulting they are by calling their circus show 'the greatest show on earth!' how dare they! did they go and see 64,232.0023142 more shows to compare before making that proclamation...insulting countless other circuses?! someone alert the media........
personally i'd sue them for that claim. but maybe it is and maybe it isnt the greatest show on earth...
and anyway.. its a silly showbiz slogan... imagine comparing your great nation to a fleet of travelling carnies who perform tricks for money... how unpatriotic of you
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
when were there any irrational tangents??? Sounds like you're a bit paranoid.
nope, just accurate. comparing flag waving to female circumcision, presuming that americans are all the same. pretty damn irrational.
I didn't do that... nor did dunk. It wasn't a good choice in comparison... but he meant there are things about other countries or cultures that we don't like... and since when is the moving train about sitting back and shutting up. There's been some debating here and that's welcome... but there's also been plenty of 'what's it to you?' and 'you obviously hate america'.
HAHAHAHA... "dunk didn't do that... but when he did it was a bad choice." Only you could type that with a straight face.
what ever???? now thats serious fucking debating...
well yes, that's ignorant. i'm not arguing that! it's on both sides here.
well i do get a lot of that in threads of this nature.
i dont get the idea of 'tipping'.. so i say so... and i get replies to me after that of "cheap ass scots" and things like that...
i dont get the idea of needing a gun... i say so.,.. i get told america is the freest nation in the world so shut up.
i dont get needless boasting like 'greatest nation in the world.. so i say i dont and we end up with this... a thread in which americans try and tell me its their culture and it does you no harm, so why bother?
i bother because i can...
its a very very rare thing that an american will be on this forum who doesnt like an aspect of their culture and is prepared to say it .. probably for fear of them being labelled unpatriotic... whereas i dont care.. be it scotland or the US... if something doesnt sit right with me, i like to probe it and question why.
british/irish people will say about things in their culture that they dont particulary like... not once would they get a retort from a fellow countryman of being unpatriotic... but an american could and probably has been labelled unpatriotic on here... it was probably Commy but thats cos he questions a lot of things in his society.
Dream, i dont believe anyone has been harmed by bad spelling... but it 'irks' you doesnt it.... so why bother saying about it? why not just do whats being asked of me here... sit back, shut up and say nothing.
spare me.
i have CLEARLY stated numerous times over that i think tipping is a ridiculous practice. there are many things about my country and culture that i will criticize, as do many. i don't participate in gun debates b/c i don't see much to debate.....i'm pretty anti-gun.
as to what 'riks' me dunk...i addressed that when you first posted about it....not going to post it for ya again.
this thread was meant to be about media bias.....many times people tried to bring it back to that track...but the flag-waving and god bless america took over....so sure, i weighed in numerous times.....b/c i can. and for the umpteenth time no one is saying to shut up about it, not discuss....we're actually trying to understand WHY it irks you so. i got all the bind patriotism stuff, but ya know...that's a ssuming a lot. i am not blindly patriotic, not in the least. so beyond that point....since we ARE discussing the topic, for me, the point is to gain some understanding as to 'why'.....it is so irksome. i guess i just can't imagine being so 'irked' by something harmless, that has no effect on me...whereas bad spelling adoes effect me, deeply.
OK, since americans obviously can't take any slight criticism of their country... well the few of you here anyway... you've managed to take the fun out of any debate... so i'm out of this... you can all stick your flags up your..................... chimney... for all I care
Since you all CARE so much about this debate, there's no point in me being here cos it's not something I care about... I'm gonna go back to discussing cats that look like hitler... cos that makes me CARE.
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
its a very very rare thing that an american will be on this forum who doesnt like an aspect of their culture and is prepared to say it .
g.
the very purpose of this thread was me, AN AMERICAN, voicing my distaste of AMERICA'S BIASED MEDIA.
ladies and gentlemen...i present to you....the very definition of....IRONY
thanks dunk. you just made my day! hahaha
..oh, and your avatar sucks. sorry!
irony? are you Alanis Morisette? :P
your biased media is hardly one of the countries great cultural identities is it?
p.s. our media is actually much better than yours
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
i've also not asked that it be stopped... just dont get it nor the need to do it.
The problem isn't that you don't get it, the problem is that you refuse to even listen to or attempt to understand what it means to this culture. As when we tried to explain that 'God bless America' is simply a cultural idiom with as much religious meaning as Santa Clause anymore... but when we offer this explanation to help you understand what it means here, you say "no, it clearly means that Americans believe God only cares about the US and says fuck all the rest." Which is as ridiculous as me telling you that the phrase 'taking the piss' means literally that people in Ireland literally try to steal each other's urine.
OK, since americans obviously can't take any slight criticism of their country... well the few of you here anyway... you've managed to take the fun out of any debate... so i'm out of this.RE.
beat it helen!.....by the way, as i just pointed out to dunk, the whole point of me created this thread was to voice my displeasure over my country's biased media, but whatever. have a good weekend!
i counted more than 4.. i also never once saw anyone who had suggested it was FACT.. just their opinion that flying a flag on your own doorstep of the country you live in is just a bit odd... to us... just as grown men chasing a giant circular cheese down a hill in Yorkshire every year is a bit odd... funny, but a bit weird.
i agree with the last sentence though...
You've not said 'just a bit odd.' You've said wrong, pompous and arrogant. I appreciate the obvious fact that you're trying to backpedal now though.
OK, since americans obviously can't take any slight criticism of their country... well the few of you here anyway... you've managed to take the fun out of any debate... so i'm out of this... you can all stick your flags up your..................... chimney... for all I care quote]
Flagpole will be fine thanks! The fact is there are myriad reasons someone would fly the stars and stripes. Hell , I've even seen someone fly it UPSIDE DOWN. that being a signal that somethings wrong with the situation.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
your biased media is hardly one of the countries great cultural identities is it?
p.s. our media is actually much better than yours
our media sucks. i hate it. hence the reason for this thread that you and helen hijacked.
nd it greatly affects just about every aspect of our culture. oooohhhh no! dunk! look an american who somehow disagrees with something in his country!!! oh no!!
btw - i think someone seriously needs to alert ringling bros and barnum bailey circus how arrogant and silly and out of hand insulting they are by calling their circus show 'the greatest show on earth!' how dare they! did they go and see 64,232.0023142 more shows to compare before making that proclamation...insulting countless other circuses?! someone alert the media........
personally i'd sue them for that claim. but maybe it is and maybe it isnt the greatest show on earth...
and anyway.. its a silly showbiz slogan... imagine comparing your great nation to a fleet of travelling carnies who perform tricks for money... how unpatriotic of you
and maybe to some americans, it IS the greatest country on earth. i mean, seriously, it is not a sentiment based on weights and measures. as some have said, it's like saying pearl jam is the greatest band, etc...it is based on emotion more than anything else...or so i have always thought. that's the point. when it's said, in speeches, to fellow americans...it's meant to be unifying, a rally-call, what have you.......i mean, i have not seen a president go and say 'god bless america' to a foreign crowd, etc....it's directed at americans, for americans.
ya know, as ed sings....this is not for you.
so yea.....the flag waving at home, the displays, the anthems, the speeches......not for you. for us. too bad that's not OK with you.
and christ! we can take criticism, but have criticism of something that truly effects anyone! criticize the government, criticize our tipping customs, lack of universal healthcare....ya know......things that actualy impact people's lives. and hey, criticize the flag waving too...but allow the reciprocal courtesy for us to criticize the criticizm. we enjoy it, so fuck it........*waves flag* amazing! debating back is not being able to handle criticizm..i'll have to remember that.
i counted more than 4.. i also never once saw anyone who had suggested it was FACT.. just their opinion that flying a flag on your own doorstep of the country you live in is just a bit odd... to us... just as grown men chasing a giant circular cheese down a hill in Yorkshire every year is a bit odd... funny, but a bit weird.
i agree with the last sentence though...
You've not said 'just a bit odd.' You've said wrong, pompous and arrogant. I appreciate the obvious fact that you're trying to backpedal now though.
i wonder if helen and dunk man have a problem with a mr. michael mcready riffing on the star spangled banner at the end of nearly every pj show during yl.....hmmmm
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
i dont get the idea of 'tipping'.. so i say so... and i get replies to me after that of "cheap ass scots" and things like that...
i dont get the idea of needing a gun... i say so.,.. i get told america is the freest nation in the world so shut up.
I'm your biggest tipping foil and I've always said it's reasonable for you to think it's a bad system and I don't recall ever claiming the Scottish were cheapskates. A living wage would be cool. All I've ever said is that when you're here it's shitty to take it out on the poor server who can't do fuck-all about it because you don't like the system. And, as I recall, you agreed and admitted that you wouldn't do that.
As to guns, there are few people more irrational than American NRA types... you can't hold that against all of us! They act the same way to other reasonable Americans.
i wonder if helen and dunk man have a problem with a mr. michael mcready riffing on the star spangled banner at the end of nearly every pj show during yl.....hmmmm
Good point... what a fucking prick right? Shoving American songs down everyone's throats!
i counted more than 4.. i also never once saw anyone who had suggested it was FACT.. just their opinion that flying a flag on your own doorstep of the country you live in is just a bit odd... to us... just as grown men chasing a giant circular cheese down a hill in Yorkshire every year is a bit odd... funny, but a bit weird.
i agree with the last sentence though...
You've not said 'just a bit odd.' You've said wrong, pompous and arrogant. I appreciate the obvious fact that you're trying to backpedal now though.
this is about the 4th time i've had to respond to one of your posts where you think i have said something that i clearly havent... and you're going to be a lawyer? sheesh.. you can't introduce witness statements detailing things that no-one has actually said.
hey mr lawyerman... find me a post where i said that flag waving was "pompous and arrogant"
i've said it about "greatest country in the world" and most probably about "god bless america"... but not about flag waving...
use facts... they help... and that obvious 'fact' i;m backpedalling now doesnt hold as much water now does it... considering your propensity for making it up as you go along.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
your biased media is hardly one of the countries great cultural identities is it?
p.s. our media is actually much better than yours
our media sucks. i hate it. hence the reason for this thread that you and helen hijacked.
nd it greatly affects just about every aspect of our culture. oooohhhh no! dunk! look an american who somehow disagrees with something in his country!!! oh no!!
damn europeans
that is because we no longer have a media...i don't think it exists. we simply have entertainment parading as news.
actually, made it never really did....but they did a far better job of disguising that fact. idk.
i wonder if helen and dunk man have a problem with a mr. michael mcready riffing on the star spangled banner at the end of nearly every pj show during yl.....hmmmm
nearly every pj show? yeah in the states maybe.... he'd get booed of the stage in any other country
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
this is about the 4th time i've had to respond to one of your posts where you think i have said something that i clearly havent... and you're going to be a lawyer? sheesh.. you can't introduce witness statements detailing things that no-one has actually said.
hey mr lawyerman... find me a post where i said that flag waving was "pompous and arrogant"
i've said it about "greatest country in the world" and most probably about "god bless america"... but not about flag waving...
use facts... they help... and that obvious 'fact' i;m backpedalling now doesnt hold as much water now does it... considering your propensity for making it up as you go along.
My bad, I presumed your sentiments on all three were pretty much the same. I addressed the God Bless America issue elsewhere.
I also apologize for the fact that I don't treat this place like a court of law bound by rules of evidence and sworn depositions... how careless of me.
i wonder if helen and dunk man have a problem with a mr. michael mcready riffing on the star spangled banner at the end of nearly every pj show during yl.....hmmmm
nearly every pj show? yeah in the states maybe.... he'd get booed of the stage in any other country
well since most of em do occur here...perhaps, as usual ...the jeagler was taking liberties with that statement.
altho really, since i'ts so irksome that we fly our own flag in our own country, sing our own national anthem in our own country...it isn't too much of a stretch to think you might find it 'irksome' that mccready does that riff, even in his home country.
i dont get the idea of 'tipping'.. so i say so... and i get replies to me after that of "cheap ass scots" and things like that...
i dont get the idea of needing a gun... i say so.,.. i get told america is the freest nation in the world so shut up.
I'm your biggest tipping foil and I've always said it's reasonable for you to think it's a bad system and I don't recall ever claiming the Scottish were cheapskates. A living wage would be cool. All I've ever said is that when you're here it's shitty to take it out on the poor server who can't do fuck-all about it because you don't like the system. And, as I recall, you agreed and admitted that you wouldn't do that.
As to guns, there are few people more irrational than American NRA types... you can't hold that against all of us! They act the same way to other reasonable Americans.
i'll make a concession... if i go into a restaurant and i see an US flag, or they bless america or somewhere their promo material says "greatest steaks in the world served in the greatest country in the world" then i wont tip...
if none of the above is mentioned i'll most definitely tip and wish the waiter/waitress all the best.
thats fair huh?
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
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and i can, and will say, the last line as well, sweetheart.
And you should know, I take very little seriously.
It may be still opinion but it's not just MY opinion... why does it bother you so much that I said something and forgot to put 'IN MY OPINION' after it???
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
it's a discussion board!!!!
because we can discuss!!!!
you don't need to care about a topic at all to post continually about it!!!!
it's all just because we're on a discussion board to discuss things...no matter the topic.....no matter the cares.......and it doesn't mean anything!!!
btw - i think someone seriously needs to alert ringling bros and barnum bailey circus how arrogant and silly and out of hand insulting they are by calling their circus show 'the greatest show on earth!' how dare they! did they go and see 64,232.0023142 more shows to compare before making that proclamation...insulting countless other circuses?! someone alert the media........
of course, the media is so biased....i think they've been supporting cirque de soleil for years now.......;)
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
well i do get a lot of that in threads of this nature.
i dont get the idea of 'tipping'.. so i say so... and i get replies to me after that of "cheap ass scots" and things like that...
i dont get the idea of needing a gun... i say so.,.. i get told america is the freest nation in the world so shut up.
i dont get needless boasting like 'greatest nation in the world.. so i say i dont and we end up with this... a thread in which americans try and tell me its their culture and it does you no harm, so why bother?
i bother because i can...
its a very very rare thing that an american will be on this forum who doesnt like an aspect of their culture and is prepared to say it .. probably for fear of them being labelled unpatriotic... whereas i dont care.. be it scotland or the US... if something doesnt sit right with me, i like to probe it and question why.
british/irish people will say about things in their culture that they dont particulary like... not once would they get a retort from a fellow countryman of being unpatriotic... but an american could and probably has been labelled unpatriotic on here... it was probably Commy
Dream, i dont believe anyone has been harmed by bad spelling... but it 'irks' you doesnt it.... so why bother saying about it? why not just do whats being asked of me here... sit back, shut up and say nothing.
its these crazy europeans man! i'm tellin' ya...
make up your mind....you quote the jeagler as giving lots of anti-american posts...so i assume you are using said comments as 'serious' debate....then you say you take little seriously.....so then, huh? don't put forth a serious argument using things you don't take seriously.
you make a declarative statement that it IS silly, there is NO reason.....people give you reasons...and yet, still not enough...you say more of the same.......so yes, parading opinion as fact, i dislike...always have. dunk should add that to the list he's compiled of things that irk me and that i debate passionately. :P it's not so much that you need to continaully add 'imo'......just not present yours or even others' opinions as something declarative, as if it *proves* it's silly, or serves no purpose/reason...b/c it doesn't. btw - chiqui clearly stated that in the post you missed.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
the very purpose of this thread was me, AN AMERICAN, voicing my distaste of AMERICA'S BIASED MEDIA.
ladies and gentlemen...i present to you....the very definition of....IRONY
thanks dunk. you just made my day! hahaha
..oh, and your avatar sucks. sorry!
personally i'd sue them for that claim.
and anyway.. its a silly showbiz slogan... imagine comparing your great nation to a fleet of travelling carnies who perform tricks for money... how unpatriotic of you
HAHAHAHA... "dunk didn't do that... but when he did it was a bad choice." Only you could type that with a straight face.
spare me.
i have CLEARLY stated numerous times over that i think tipping is a ridiculous practice. there are many things about my country and culture that i will criticize, as do many. i don't participate in gun debates b/c i don't see much to debate.....i'm pretty anti-gun.
as to what 'riks' me dunk...i addressed that when you first posted about it....not going to post it for ya again.
this thread was meant to be about media bias.....many times people tried to bring it back to that track...but the flag-waving and god bless america took over....so sure, i weighed in numerous times.....b/c i can. and for the umpteenth time no one is saying to shut up about it, not discuss....we're actually trying to understand WHY it irks you so. i got all the bind patriotism stuff, but ya know...that's a ssuming a lot. i am not blindly patriotic, not in the least. so beyond that point....since we ARE discussing the topic, for me, the point is to gain some understanding as to 'why'.....it is so irksome. i guess i just can't imagine being so 'irked' by something harmless, that has no effect on me...whereas bad spelling adoes effect me, deeply.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Since you all CARE so much about this debate, there's no point in me being here cos it's not something I care about... I'm gonna go back to discussing cats that look like hitler... cos that makes me CARE.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
irony? are you Alanis Morisette? :P
your biased media is hardly one of the countries great cultural identities is it?
p.s. our media is actually much better than yours
The problem isn't that you don't get it, the problem is that you refuse to even listen to or attempt to understand what it means to this culture. As when we tried to explain that 'God bless America' is simply a cultural idiom with as much religious meaning as Santa Clause anymore... but when we offer this explanation to help you understand what it means here, you say "no, it clearly means that Americans believe God only cares about the US and says fuck all the rest." Which is as ridiculous as me telling you that the phrase 'taking the piss' means literally that people in Ireland literally try to steal each other's urine.
beat it helen!.....by the way, as i just pointed out to dunk, the whole point of me created this thread was to voice my displeasure over my country's biased media, but whatever. have a good weekend!
You've not said 'just a bit odd.' You've said wrong, pompous and arrogant. I appreciate the obvious fact that you're trying to backpedal now though.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
our media sucks. i hate it. hence the reason for this thread that you and helen hijacked.
nd it greatly affects just about every aspect of our culture. oooohhhh no! dunk! look an american who somehow disagrees with something in his country!!! oh no!!
damn europeans
and maybe to some americans, it IS the greatest country on earth. i mean, seriously, it is not a sentiment based on weights and measures. as some have said, it's like saying pearl jam is the greatest band, etc...it is based on emotion more than anything else...or so i have always thought. that's the point. when it's said, in speeches, to fellow americans...it's meant to be unifying, a rally-call, what have you.......i mean, i have not seen a president go and say 'god bless america' to a foreign crowd, etc....it's directed at americans, for americans.
ya know, as ed sings....this is not for you.
so yea.....the flag waving at home, the displays, the anthems, the speeches......not for you. for us. too bad that's not OK with you.
and christ! we can take criticism, but have criticism of something that truly effects anyone! criticize the government, criticize our tipping customs, lack of universal healthcare....ya know......things that actualy impact people's lives. and hey, criticize the flag waving too...but allow the reciprocal courtesy for us to criticize the criticizm. we enjoy it, so fuck it........*waves flag*
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
he's been pedaling sideways for a while now...
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I'm your biggest tipping foil and I've always said it's reasonable for you to think it's a bad system and I don't recall ever claiming the Scottish were cheapskates. A living wage would be cool. All I've ever said is that when you're here it's shitty to take it out on the poor server who can't do fuck-all about it because you don't like the system. And, as I recall, you agreed and admitted that you wouldn't do that.
As to guns, there are few people more irrational than American NRA types... you can't hold that against all of us! They act the same way to other reasonable Americans.
Good point... what a fucking prick right? Shoving American songs down everyone's throats!
this is about the 4th time i've had to respond to one of your posts where you think i have said something that i clearly havent... and you're going to be a lawyer? sheesh.. you can't introduce witness statements detailing things that no-one has actually said.
hey mr lawyerman... find me a post where i said that flag waving was "pompous and arrogant"
i've said it about "greatest country in the world" and most probably about "god bless america"... but not about flag waving...
use facts... they help... and that obvious 'fact' i;m backpedalling now doesnt hold as much water now does it... considering your propensity for making it up as you go along.
that is because we no longer have a media...i don't think it exists. we simply have entertainment parading as news.
actually, made it never really did....but they did a far better job of disguising that fact. idk.
god bless ya jeagler.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
nearly every pj show? yeah in the states maybe.... he'd get booed of the stage in any other country
My bad, I presumed your sentiments on all three were pretty much the same. I addressed the God Bless America issue elsewhere.
I also apologize for the fact that I don't treat this place like a court of law bound by rules of evidence and sworn depositions... how careless of me.
well since most of em do occur here...perhaps, as usual
altho really, since i'ts so irksome that we fly our own flag in our own country, sing our own national anthem in our own country...it isn't too much of a stretch to think you might find it 'irksome' that mccready does that riff, even in his home country.
just sayin'.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
i'll make a concession... if i go into a restaurant and i see an US flag, or they bless america or somewhere their promo material says "greatest steaks in the world served in the greatest country in the world" then i wont tip...
if none of the above is mentioned i'll most definitely tip and wish the waiter/waitress all the best.
thats fair huh?