Does anybody else think, that the explosion that destroyed the Swan Station in 2004, was caused by the bomb they're trying to detonate in the 70's? It makes sense if they don't succeed in detonating it.
I think that. But then again I get a lot of things wrong. I can't wait for tonight's show..it's 2 hours?
Three if you include that recap episode that they're also doing.
I guess there were two of them on the Island, and whoever was trapped in that cabin is who we have seen and thought was jacob. I can't wait to see where they go with it next year
...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
it's still the best suspense show going... but i was kind of disappointed.
there's no way seeing jacob could have lived up to the hype we've created for 5 years. (insert goulet picture here).
it looked like bernard aged 50 years, not 3...haha.
best line of the night (ben): "I lied, it's what i do"
i thought it was pretty cheesy that jack said he was doing the bomb thing because of kate, too.
still great, though....curious what happens next. i think i just need to watch it again.
i thought it was pretty cheesy that jack said he was doing the bomb thing because of kate, too.
I totally agree. I also thought it was a little cheesy that Juliet changed her mind because of Kate.
I thought it would have been better for her to change her mind because if the island didn't exist, she never would have left her sister, but hey I'm not going to argue too much with the writers.
i thought it was pretty cheesy that jack said he was doing the bomb thing because of kate, too.
I totally agree. I also thought it was a little cheesy that Juliet changed her mind because of Kate.
I thought it would have been better for her to change her mind because if the island didn't exist, she never would have left her sister, but hey I'm not going to argue too much with the writers.
right. there were definitely a few minutes there when lost was turning into a sappy love drama.
So Locke's still dead, Jacob's dead, and the island blew up. Great cliffhangers to discuss for 9 months.
Don't forget who was that guy talking to Jacob in the opening and how did he look like Locke? Also, if he had the ability to look like Locke, then was he also appearing as Christian?
I thought the show really went downhill this year, but after that episode all is forgiven! That is the freakin' Lost that I love. I loved Jacob being with all the passengers during vital parts of their life. I was totally shocked by Locke in the box.
So Locke's still dead, Jacob's dead, and the island blew up. Great cliffhangers to discuss for 9 months.
Don't forget who was that guy talking to Jacob in the opening and how did he look like Locke? Also, if he had the ability to look like Locke, then was he also appearing as Christian?
Does anyone else think that guy is the smoke moster?
So Locke's still dead, Jacob's dead, and the island blew up. Great cliffhangers to discuss for 9 months.
Don't forget who was that guy talking to Jacob in the opening and how did he look like Locke? Also, if he had the ability to look like Locke, then was he also appearing as Christian?
Does anyone else think that guy is the smoke moster?
That would make a lot of sense. I mean the smoke monster did tell Ben to listen to John and John told Ben to kill Jacob. I'm not sure why Jacob just didn't tell Ben that that wasn't really John.
Sobek (also known as Sebek, Sebek-Ra, Sobeq, Suchos, Sobki, and Soknopais) was the ancient god of crocodiles. He is first mentioned in the Pyramid Texts and his worship continued until the Roman period. Some sects believed that Sobek was the creator of the world who arose from the "Dark Water" and created the order in the universe. Sobek was a god of the Nile who brought fertility to the land. As the "Lord of the Waters" he was thought to have risen from the primeval waters of Nun to create the world and made the Nile from his sweat. One creation myth stated that Sobek laid eggs on the bank of the waters of Nun thus creating the world. However, as well as being a force for creation, he was seen as an unpredictable deity who sometimes allied himself with the forces of Chaos.
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In some areas, a tame crocodile was worshiped as the earthly embodiment of Sobek himself, while in other places crocodiles were reviled, hunted and killed. It seems likely that Sobek began as a dark god who had to be appeased, but that his protective qualities and his strength were valued when they were used in defence of the Pharaoh and the people. He could protect the justified dead in the netherworld, restoring their sight and reviving their senses. Because of his ferocity, he was considered to be the patron of the army.
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He was depicted as a crocodile, a mummified crocodile or a man with the head of a crocodile. He often wore a plumed headdress with a horned sun disk or the atef crown (associating him with Amon-Ra) and carried the Was sceptre (representing power) and the Ankh (representing the breath of life). Mummified crocodiles representing the god have been found in many ancient tombs. The Egyptians mummified both infant and mature crocodiles and even interred crocodile eggs and foetuses with the deceased in order to enlist the protection of Sobek in the afterlife.
ok, i've had time to digest and even rewatched a few scenes last night. the brilliance of the show has once again been restored.
so is that other guy like jacob's other half? he's the one that has been living in the cabin while jacob has been living in the foot? also, it seems the 'evil' jacob is able to take on the human form of dead people...so he was christian shepard (again explains the cabin) and he was alex (telling ben to follow locke...since he was actually locke, too).
i really hope jacob isn't dead. i like how he appeared to them all at pivotal points.
lots of questions about ilana, though, now. what was her favor to jacob? was it bringing sayid back? how do her and jacob know each other?
it was good stuff. lots to think about. i don't want to wait until 2010.
So Locke's still dead, Jacob's dead, and the island blew up. Great cliffhangers to discuss for 9 months.
Don't forget who was that guy talking to Jacob in the opening and how did he look like Locke? Also, if he had the ability to look like Locke, then was he also appearing as Christian?
I'm going on the assumption that Jacob's "buddy" can take on the appearance of anyone who's body is on the island, and he was obviously Locke last night, and has been Christian in the past as well as Alex talking to Benry a couple of weeks ago, Yemmi and others who we've seen over the past 5 years.
So is his buddy the devil or Satan's Little Helper (Pit pun intended), and Jacob is an angel or something?
And he can't kill Jacob himself, so had to enlist Benry to wield the knife.
And also...its one thing for this site to be down during ticket onsales, but damn crashing the morning after the Lost finale should never happen, Kat and Sea of all people should know this.
So Locke's still dead, Jacob's dead, and the island blew up. Great cliffhangers to discuss for 9 months.
Don't forget who was that guy talking to Jacob in the opening and how did he look like Locke? Also, if he had the ability to look like Locke, then was he also appearing as Christian?
Does anyone else think that guy is the smoke moster?
Yes....I believe that is quite possible.....does/did Smokey ever touch any of the Losties visited by Jacob????
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
I'm going on the assumption that Jacob's "buddy" can take on the appearance of anyone who's body is on the island, and he was obviously Locke last night, and has been Christian in the past as well as Alex talking to Benry a couple of weeks ago, Yemmi and others who we've seen over the past 5 years.
So is his buddy the devil or Satan's Little Helper (Pit pun intended), and Jacob is an angel or something?
And he can't kill Jacob himself, so had to enlist Benry to wield the knife.
an angel...that's interesting. i was saying this morning that i need to brush up on my bible knowledge. i took a class in college and remember jacob had a jealous brother...but i forget their whole story. there were a lot of biblical references last night. he looked like an angel, the way he put his hand on locke to 'heal' him. so are any of these people going to remember meeting jacob?
And also...its one thing for this site to be down during ticket onsales, but damn crashing the morning after the Lost finale should never happen, Kat and Sea of all people should know this.
And also...its one thing for this site to be down during ticket onsales, but damn crashing the morning after the Lost finale should never happen, Kat and Sea of all people should know this.
Totally agree.
I'm glad Phil met his demise last night, but I kinda wanted Sawyer to take him out instead of the electromagnetic field.
So who was the big death last night? I had read a couple of things on EW before the finale that a big death was going to be part of the episode or a major character. Was it Sayid, Juliet or finding out that Locke is really dead?
And if the bomb changed history, does that mean Jacob is still alive? Because if 815 crashes, Locke never gets to the island, never dies, never gets possessed and never convinces Ben to kill Jacob because Ben would have died in the explosion in 1977.
an angel...that's interesting. i was saying this morning that i need to brush up on my bible knowledge. i took a class in college and remember jacob had a jealous brother...but i forget their whole story. there were a lot of biblical references last night. he looked like an angel, the way he put his hand on locke to 'heal' him. so are any of these people going to remember meeting jacob?
My Biblical knowledge has shrunken to near nil over the years, all that popped into my head was this line from U2's "Bullet the Blue Sky":
Jacob wrestled the angel and the angel was overcome
I'm going on the assumption that Jacob's "buddy" can take on the appearance of anyone who's body is on the island, and he was obviously Locke last night, and has been Christian in the past as well as Alex talking to Benry a couple of weeks ago, Yemmi and others who we've seen over the past 5 years.
So is his buddy the devil or Satan's Little Helper (Pit pun intended), and Jacob is an angel or something?
And he can't kill Jacob himself, so had to enlist Benry to wield the knife.
an angel...that's interesting. i was saying this morning that i need to brush up on my bible knowledge. i took a class in college and remember jacob had a jealous brother...but i forget their whole story. there were a lot of biblical references last night. he looked like an angel, the way he put his hand on locke to 'heal' him. so are any of these people going to remember meeting jacob?
From what I remember, Jacob's older brother was Esau. They were the sons of Isaac and Jacob was the younger brother. Jacob was Isaac's father favorite but Esau was in line to inherit everything because he was the older.
Esau came back from hunting one night and was really hungry and Jacob had made some food but wouldn't give any to his brother unless he sold him his birthrite. So when Isaac died, Jacob impersonated Esau to get his inheritance and then fathered 12 sons by 2 wives and those became the 12 tribes or Israel.
(Taking bible classes were easy electives in college - especially at a non-Catholic college after 13 years of Catholic grade and high school.)
Jacob dying might mean that Whitmore and Eloise can return, and probably means that Ben is supposed to/'can' be there again. They (Whitmore and Eloise) may have been working toward this as their plan?
Sayid is the skeleton in the Dharma van found in 2004?
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Yep, I can't wait to see how this plays out.
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
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- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
Awesome. What a show! And I am so glad to see you know who. But it was kind of weird with his two Losties. Seemed to be just thrown in there.
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
there's no way seeing jacob could have lived up to the hype we've created for 5 years. (insert goulet picture here).
it looked like bernard aged 50 years, not 3...haha.
best line of the night (ben): "I lied, it's what i do"
i thought it was pretty cheesy that jack said he was doing the bomb thing because of kate, too.
still great, though....curious what happens next. i think i just need to watch it again.
I totally agree. I also thought it was a little cheesy that Juliet changed her mind because of Kate.
I thought it would have been better for her to change her mind because if the island didn't exist, she never would have left her sister, but hey I'm not going to argue too much with the writers.
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
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- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
Great, great episode. Maybe the best ever.
This is mentioned so much here. I can think of a lot of shows that kill people off.
Does anyone else think that guy is the smoke moster?
btw, the statue w/ the crocodile head = Sobek
so is that other guy like jacob's other half? he's the one that has been living in the cabin while jacob has been living in the foot? also, it seems the 'evil' jacob is able to take on the human form of dead people...so he was christian shepard (again explains the cabin) and he was alex (telling ben to follow locke...since he was actually locke, too).
i really hope jacob isn't dead. i like how he appeared to them all at pivotal points.
lots of questions about ilana, though, now. what was her favor to jacob? was it bringing sayid back? how do her and jacob know each other?
it was good stuff. lots to think about. i don't want to wait until 2010.
So is his buddy the devil or Satan's Little Helper (Pit pun intended), and Jacob is an angel or something?
And he can't kill Jacob himself, so had to enlist Benry to wield the knife.
And also...its one thing for this site to be down during ticket onsales, but damn crashing the morning after the Lost finale should never happen, Kat and Sea of all people should know this.
Totally agree.
I'm glad Phil met his demise last night, but I kinda wanted Sawyer to take him out instead of the electromagnetic field.
So who was the big death last night? I had read a couple of things on EW before the finale that a big death was going to be part of the episode or a major character. Was it Sayid, Juliet or finding out that Locke is really dead?
And if the bomb changed history, does that mean Jacob is still alive? Because if 815 crashes, Locke never gets to the island, never dies, never gets possessed and never convinces Ben to kill Jacob because Ben would have died in the explosion in 1977.
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
I'm a good Catholic...not.
From what I remember, Jacob's older brother was Esau. They were the sons of Isaac and Jacob was the younger brother. Jacob was Isaac's father favorite but Esau was in line to inherit everything because he was the older.
Esau came back from hunting one night and was really hungry and Jacob had made some food but wouldn't give any to his brother unless he sold him his birthrite. So when Isaac died, Jacob impersonated Esau to get his inheritance and then fathered 12 sons by 2 wives and those became the 12 tribes or Israel.
(Taking bible classes were easy electives in college - especially at a non-Catholic college after 13 years of Catholic grade and high school.)
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
Grandfather Paradox or typo?
I meant to put favorite there and then put it into the next sentence ... lol.
Let me fix that.
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
Sayid is the skeleton in the Dharma van found in 2004?