***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Thread***

Jearlpam0925

And apparently he looked worse in left. I'd actually try him out in center - just for my own crazy reasonings.

Johnny Abruzzo

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

And apparently he looked worse in left. I'd actually try him out in center - just for my own crazy reasonings.

Something about his lefthandedness looked really weird in RF. I don't know.

Wobbie

what's this I hear about pence being sub-par defensively? :shock: :fp:

Johnny Abruzzo

imalive wrote:

what's this I hear about pence being sub-par defensively? :shock: :fp:

Enjoy the show. It's something like "A Nightmare in Right Field".

One comment I read said that it was 12 years too late for Hunter Pence to play outfield in Candlestick Park.

Other thing I read said Pence is a marginal offensive upgrade for the Giants, offset by his poorer defense. Think the Dodgers will be more helped by the Victorino acquisition.

Enjoy!

Wobbie

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Other thing I read said Pence is a marginal offensive upgrade for the Giants, offset by his poorer defense. Think the Dodgers will be more helped by the Victorino acquisition.

Enjoy!

I have no doubt pence's so-called "power" will disappear at at&t park. it ain't a bandbox like cbp or enron.

that said, I don't see the addition of victorino as much to worry about.

your shitty season may turn out to be a blessing in disguise....get some prospects, play some young guys, etc.

Johnny Abruzzo

imalive wrote:

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Other thing I read said Pence is a marginal offensive upgrade for the Giants, offset by his poorer defense. Think the Dodgers will be more helped by the Victorino acquisition.

Enjoy!

I have no doubt pence's so-called "power" will disappear at at&t park. it ain't a bandbox like cbp or enron.

that said, I don't see the addition of victorino as much to worry about.

your shitty season may turn out to be a blessing in disguise....get some prospects, play some young guys, etc.

Hey, this Shierholtz guy sure can catch the ball. :P

Jearlpam0925

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

imalive wrote:

I have no doubt pence's so-called "power" will disappear at at&t park. it ain't a bandbox like cbp or enron.

that said, I don't see the addition of victorino as much to worry about.

your shitty season may turn out to be a blessing in disguise....get some prospects, play some young guys, etc.

Hey, this Shierholtz guy sure can catch the ball. :P

I immediately texted like 10 people last night saying, "Pence doesn't make that catch."

Wobbie

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Hey, this Shierholtz guy sure can catch the ball. :P

EXCELLENT defensively. I already have remorse. :?

Johnny Abruzzo

imalive wrote:

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Hey, this Shierholtz guy sure can catch the ball. :P

EXCELLENT defensively. I already have remorse. :?

He did not have friendly words for Bochy.

The Fixer

imalive wrote:

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Hey, this Shierholtz guy sure can catch the ball. :P

EXCELLENT defensively. I already have remorse. :?

wait until pence misreads a routine fly ball in the playoffs. inevitability can be fun. unless is the realization is that certain contracts suck (funny here) and your GM is completely inept (not funny here). wait, neither scenario is funny.

good times!!

where are the pom pom wavers that popped up after the sweep of penco tech of the blind?? shit, those wins didn't mean anything??

like I said when trade went down...big schierholtz fan. solid all around player. best case - jayson werth ...worst case - jim eisenreich. good and good.

now trade the big pear. he is so fat and so shitty. and so overpaid

JK_Livin

So in the 3rd or 4th when the Nats scored their 2nd and 3rd runs did anyone see the errors by Chase and Jimmy that the official scorers called hits? But the ball Wiggy hit to Zim was an error, wtf?

Jearlpam0925

JK_Livin wrote:

So in the 3rd or 4th when the Nats scored their 2nd and 3rd runs did anyone see the errors by Chase and Jimmy that the official scorers called hits? But the ball Wiggy hit to Zim was an error, wtf?

Homefield advantage.

And, by the way, people in this town really are idiots. Apparently they've never heard of a trade waiver before, let alone know how one works.

JK_Livin

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

JK_Livin wrote:

So in the 3rd or 4th when the Nats scored their 2nd and 3rd runs did anyone see the errors by Chase and Jimmy that the official scorers called hits? But the ball Wiggy hit to Zim was an error, wtf?

Homefield advantage.

And, by the way, people in this town really are idiots. Apparently they've never heard of a trade waiver before, let alone know how one works.

I know, it was funny following twitter when that happened. My wife freaked out. I said relax, your boyfriend isn't going anywhere.

neilybabes86

what is it? and why did the phillies do it ?

Jearlpam0925

neilybabes86 wrote:

what is it? and why did the phillies do it ?

Because 100% of the teams in the league put about 90% of their MLB roster on trade waivers. If for no other reason but to keep those player available to see what kind of interest said players garner in a possible trade, even though the regular trade deadline has passed. You can bet that probably all 25 players for the Yanks were places on trade waivers too - the thing is, usually, that info doesn't get out.

The way it works is you place a player - say Cliff Lee - on trade waivers.(Now forgive me, I might be slightly wrong on some of the details) Lee then becomes available on trade waivers, meaning anyone - starting with worst record in the NL and then in the AL - have a chance to claim Lee, therefore picking up his salary too. But, Philly can pull him off waivers at any point. If no one claims Lee, then the Phils can trade him to who ever. I'm probably slightly off on my explanation.

neilybabes86

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

neilybabes86 wrote:

what is it? and why did the phillies do it ?

Because 100% of the teams in the league put about 90% of their MLB roster on trade waivers. If for no other reason but to keep those player available to see what kind of interest said players garner in a possible trade, even though the regular trade deadline has passed. You can bet that probably all 25 players for the Yanks were places on trade waivers too - the thing is, usually, that info doesn't get out.

The way it works is you place a player - say Cliff Lee - on trade waivers.(Now forgive me, I might be slightly wrong on some of the details) Lee then becomes available on trade waivers, meaning anyone - starting with worst record in the NL and then in the AL - have a chance to claim Lee, therefore picking up his salary too. But, Philly can pull him off waivers at any point. If no one claims Lee, then the Phils can trade him to who ever. I'm probably slightly off on my explanation.

yea but then the phils took a chance at losing him if thats the case? i think

Jearlpam0925

neilybabes86 wrote:

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

neilybabes86 wrote:

what is it? and why did the phillies do it ?

Because 100% of the teams in the league put about 90% of their MLB roster on trade waivers. If for no other reason but to keep those player available to see what kind of interest said players garner in a possible trade, even though the regular trade deadline has passed. You can bet that probably all 25 players for the Yanks were places on trade waivers too - the thing is, usually, that info doesn't get out.

The way it works is you place a player - say Cliff Lee - on trade waivers.(Now forgive me, I might be slightly wrong on some of the details) Lee then becomes available on trade waivers, meaning anyone - starting with worst record in the NL and then in the AL - have a chance to claim Lee, therefore picking up his salary too. But, Philly can pull him off waivers at any point. If no one claims Lee, then the Phils can trade him to who ever. I'm probably slightly off on my explanation.

yea but then the phils took a chance at losing him if thats the case? i think

Nah, if a team claims him, they(Phils) can always pull him back off waivers. Only way they let him go is if they want to just shed his salary by letting him go. But they won't do that. But then again, I don't doubt Amaro's lack of intellect.

Wobbie

The Fixer wrote:

wait until pence misreads a routine fly ball in the playoffs.

I'm afraid the only way he misreads a ball in the playoffs is from his couch. :x

probably just another sabean deadline deal that doesn't work out and mortgages our future.

Johnny Abruzzo

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

neilybabes86 wrote:

what is it? and why did the phillies do it ?

Because 100% of the teams in the league put about 90% of their MLB roster on trade waivers. If for no other reason but to keep those player available to see what kind of interest said players garner in a possible trade, even though the regular trade deadline has passed. You can bet that probably all 25 players for the Yanks were places on trade waivers too - the thing is, usually, that info doesn't get out.

The way it works is you place a player - say Cliff Lee - on trade waivers.(Now forgive me, I might be slightly wrong on some of the details) Lee then becomes available on trade waivers, meaning anyone - starting with worst record in the NL and then in the AL - have a chance to claim Lee, therefore picking up his salary too. But, Philly can pull him off waivers at any point. If no one claims Lee, then the Phils can trade him to who ever. I'm probably slightly off on my explanation.

That's pretty much my understanding.

If a team claims him, the Phillies can 1- pull him back from waivers, 2- negotiate a trade with that team, or 3- let that team have him and his full salary. Sometimes teams claim players just to keep another team above them in the standings from getting the player. It's really just a technical thing that teams do. If they wanted to trade him they probably would've done so by July 31.

Jearlpam0925

Blanton clears waivers and is traded to the Dodgers. Actually think he'll be decent in that ballpark.