They are gambling...simple as that...Reuben hasnt impressed me so far...you'd think a new GM coming in would want to make a splash and he hasnt done squat..not singed the big potential free agents (Hamels and Howard), hasnt signed a big name (CC, Lowe, Manny), hasnt resigned fan favorites (Moyer, Burrell)...so far he gets a D- for his first month on the job
Other then Epstein trading for Schilling and Beckett and Lowell over Thanksgiving the last few offseasons and the bidding wars for Contreras and Dice K, usually nothing happens until the Winter Meetings next week.
So I'll give Amaro some time here, but I'm on record here saying I disagree with the Burrell decision. Everything else he's done so far (which has been virtually nothing) is fine. I think the rule 5 draft is also next week so hopefully the Phils can find another diamond in the rough ala Victorino.
They are gambling...simple as that...Reuben hasnt impressed me so far...you'd think a new GM coming in would want to make a splash and he hasnt done squat..not singed the big potential free agents (Hamels and Howard), hasnt signed a big name (CC, Lowe, Manny), hasnt resigned fan favorites (Moyer, Burrell)...so far he gets a D- for his first month on the job
no one has signed anyone - relax. they didn't offer Burrell arbitration because if the accepts it then they are stuck with him and a huge contract. I think they felt if they offer it he might take it and then they are stuck with a guy they don't want with a large contract. and this new gm doesn't have to make a splash, tweaks here and there. This team won a championship, one or two new pitchers and a decent left fielder and they are fine. the core stars are here for at least 2-3 more years.
They are gambling...simple as that...Reuben hasnt impressed me so far...you'd think a new GM coming in would want to make a splash and he hasnt done squat..not singed the big potential free agents (Hamels and Howard), hasnt signed a big name (CC, Lowe, Manny), hasnt resigned fan favorites (Moyer, Burrell)...so far he gets a D- for his first month on the job
You don't lock Hamels up until after the Winter meetings.. you never lock Howard up unless its at your price... can't sign CC, Lowe, or Manny and honestly I don't want Manny... Moyer, if the terms (length or salary) aren't in your favor, you wait a see what shakes out.. you don't just run out there and sign any big name just because they are breathing (ala the Yankees, Mets).... all that guarantees you is a high payroll.
Again, as you said... its his FIRST month on the job after a WORLD SERIES WIN.... cut the guy alittle slack.
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Would be more than nice....I think they're realizing the only way to repeat is with pitching....High caliber pitching....I'm thrilled that at least the Phils recognize this and want to repeat just as bad as we want to.
Would be more than nice....I think they're realizing the only way to repeat is with pitching....High caliber pitching....I'm thrilled that at least the Phils recognize this and want to repeat just as bad as we want to.
The way you win championships has always been defense and pitching... I like to think that this was something Rueben and the organization realized over the last 4 months when the pitching staff and bullpen carried this team or at least kept them in games.
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The way you win championships has always been defense and pitching... I like to think that this was something Rueben and the organization realized over the last 4 months when the pitching staff and bullpen carried this team or at least kept them in games.
You don't have to tell me that. Look at their previous four years in this ballpark. All they wanted to do was market the long ball and think you could be competitive by hitting homers in The Bank. The playoffs alone should have shown them otherwise - even though they did hit like 29 homers in the playoffs.
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i hope they are serious about this lowe offer and not just trying to improve their positioning with moyer or something. i could definitely deal with a platoon in left if we have lowe in our rotation. can you imagine:
hamels
lowe
myers
blanton
that is one heluva rotation. let carasco and kendrick and whomever else battle it out for the 5th spot.
Like I said - if you can land Lowe AND Moyer I would settle with a platoon in left of Dobbs/Stairs/Jenkins/Baldelli(?). This way you can put Carrasco in the pen as long man and groom him into a serious starter in a year or two. This way players become collateral for wheeling and dealing. These are the reasons teams like the Angels and BoSox have been good for a while - also why the Phillies are there now. Bring in a few solid free agents, and build your team around farm players like Carrasco.
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***The Official US Champion Philadelphia Phillies 2009 Thread***
as its much more correct.
I'm going to support your team next year as well.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
***The Official US Champion Philadelphia Phillies 2009 Thread***
as its much more correct.
I'm going to support your team next year as well.
You're more than welcome to support. It's a lot cooler than going the broad range of supporting the Yankees or Red Sox.....Loooot cooler. So the deal is ya come to Philly and you go to a game at our awesome ballpark, take you around the city, and then I'll take you to North Philly at 4 in the morning and drop you off in the middle of Diamond Street..."You mind if we dance wit yo dates?"
Ahahahahaha...they closed the thread....Too funny.
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yep... i'm supporting you guys.. my in-laws were in Philadelphia last year, said it was beautiful! do you have the slavery museum there? i'd like to see that.
stay cool guys!
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
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Other then Epstein trading for Schilling and Beckett and Lowell over Thanksgiving the last few offseasons and the bidding wars for Contreras and Dice K, usually nothing happens until the Winter Meetings next week.
So I'll give Amaro some time here, but I'm on record here saying I disagree with the Burrell decision. Everything else he's done so far (which has been virtually nothing) is fine. I think the rule 5 draft is also next week so hopefully the Phils can find another diamond in the rough ala Victorino.
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no one has signed anyone - relax. they didn't offer Burrell arbitration because if the accepts it then they are stuck with him and a huge contract. I think they felt if they offer it he might take it and then they are stuck with a guy they don't want with a large contract. and this new gm doesn't have to make a splash, tweaks here and there. This team won a championship, one or two new pitchers and a decent left fielder and they are fine. the core stars are here for at least 2-3 more years.
You don't lock Hamels up until after the Winter meetings.. you never lock Howard up unless its at your price... can't sign CC, Lowe, or Manny and honestly I don't want Manny... Moyer, if the terms (length or salary) aren't in your favor, you wait a see what shakes out.. you don't just run out there and sign any big name just because they are breathing (ala the Yankees, Mets).... all that guarantees you is a high payroll.
Again, as you said... its his FIRST month on the job after a WORLD SERIES WIN.... cut the guy alittle slack.
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NO!
and for the record:
Jeremy Affeldt, RP signed with SF
And
Ryan Dempster, SP resigned with Chi
so theres been some movement
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NO! I can't! I'm from Philly!
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I picked up 2 sets !!
One as a gift and one for myself
The ONLY thing better than a glass of beer is tea with Miss McGill
A protuberance of flesh above the waistband of a tight pair of trousers
Hey now!!
Awesome... Good looking out. Just ordered mine!!
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/Phils_hot_on_Lowe.html
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillies_zone/Report_Phils_Make_Offer_to_Lowe.html
Yeah.
would be nice.. let's see what comes of it.
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Would be more than nice....I think they're realizing the only way to repeat is with pitching....High caliber pitching....I'm thrilled that at least the Phils recognize this and want to repeat just as bad as we want to.
The way you win championships has always been defense and pitching... I like to think that this was something Rueben and the organization realized over the last 4 months when the pitching staff and bullpen carried this team or at least kept them in games.
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You don't have to tell me that. Look at their previous four years in this ballpark. All they wanted to do was market the long ball and think you could be competitive by hitting homers in The Bank. The playoffs alone should have shown them otherwise - even though they did hit like 29 homers in the playoffs.
hamels
lowe
myers
blanton
that is one heluva rotation. let carasco and kendrick and whomever else battle it out for the 5th spot.
any shot they get moyer AND lowe??
Definitely.
Itd be great if they could pull it off!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVIJVMZZMiQ&feature=related
Love the enthusiasm - in more than one thread. And, yes, it does.
No matter what happens on Sunday or in the future they can't take THIS away from us!
Hamels
Lowe
Myers
Blanton
Carrasco / Kendrick / Moyer?
WOW
now all we need is a LF locked up
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Like I said - if you can land Lowe AND Moyer I would settle with a platoon in left of Dobbs/Stairs/Jenkins/Baldelli(?). This way you can put Carrasco in the pen as long man and groom him into a serious starter in a year or two. This way players become collateral for wheeling and dealing. These are the reasons teams like the Angels and BoSox have been good for a while - also why the Phillies are there now. Bring in a few solid free agents, and build your team around farm players like Carrasco.
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***The Official US Champion Philadelphia Phillies 2009 Thread***
as its much more correct.
I'm going to support your team next year as well.
I really dont want them guy...I dont trust his health
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Like I said I don't mind him if you land Lowe AND Moyer.
You're more than welcome to support. It's a lot cooler than going the broad range of supporting the Yankees or Red Sox.....Loooot cooler. So the deal is ya come to Philly and you go to a game at our awesome ballpark, take you around the city, and then I'll take you to North Philly at 4 in the morning and drop you off in the middle of Diamond Street..."You mind if we dance wit yo dates?"
Thats the spirit...now since they will be representing you in America you can officially call it the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP
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yep... i'm supporting you guys.. my in-laws were in Philadelphia last year, said it was beautiful! do you have the slavery museum there? i'd like to see that.
stay cool guys!
That's actually out in West Chester. Don't worry - a lot less poor people out there. But yeah, we helped the Harriet Tubman's of the world.
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