***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Thread***

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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:
    will be interesting to see if the phils trade singleton since he's blocked by the $125 million man. we know that contract isn't going anywhere any time soon

    didn't they move him to the outfield this year?

    I kind of think they gave up on that and moved him back to 1B.

    correct. from what I read they moved him back after the minor league all star break. his numbers were down a bit in the first half. since moving him back to first he is crushing the ball again...and he's still young for his level (19 at high A)
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,730
    The Fixer wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    I love this shit fellas. The business side of baseball is the best. Kind of like trading baseball cards back in the day, just with a whole lot more on the line.

    Love my job, but if I could pick one job it would be a baseball GM

    For sure, it would be awesome. I feel like what they do is just as much of a game as what goes on on the field.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,730
    I will say, I think it will be really interesting to see what Amaro does moving forward to keep his team competitive. He has obviously done a great job at putting a good team together, but he has his work cut out for him keeping the team comeptitive and around $175 million in payroll. For your sake, hopefully he has learned from his contract mistakes, those kind of thing will hurt them a lot more in the next couple years. It probably the most interesting team out there in terms of keeping the team good with the obligations and what they need.

    Edit: And by competitive I mean in the top 5 teams in baseball.
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    I will say, I think it will be really interesting to see what Amaro does moving forward to keep his team competitive. He has obviously done a great job at putting a good team together, but he has his work cut out for him keeping the team comeptitive and around $175 million in payroll. For your sake, hopefully he has learned from his contract mistakes, those kind of thing will hurt them a lot more in the next couple years. It probably the most interesting team out there in terms of keeping the team good with the obligations and what they need.

    yeah man. he has made some great trades to fill holes, but this will be his toughest offseason yet. lot of difficult decisions to be made (rollins, madson, hamels, LF, oswalt)
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,730
    The Fixer wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    I will say, I think it will be really interesting to see what Amaro does moving forward to keep his team competitive. He has obviously done a great job at putting a good team together, but he has his work cut out for him keeping the team comeptitive and around $175 million in payroll. For your sake, hopefully he has learned from his contract mistakes, those kind of thing will hurt them a lot more in the next couple years. It probably the most interesting team out there in terms of keeping the team good with the obligations and what they need.

    yeah man. he has made some great trades to fill holes, but this will be his toughest offseason yet. lot of difficult decisions to be made (rollins, madson, hamels, LF, oswalt)

    The trades have been great, the contracts not so much. Much tougher decisions coming up. Oswalt has to have his option declined, no way they can pay him that after his injuries this year. Rollins and Hamels will be interesting. I could see Rollins thinking he is worth more than he is, he has never had a big payday. They have to get Hamels done somehow.

    And speaking of Ed Wade, I don't know why this came back to me just now, but I read a couple weeks back the Freidman from the Rays will be getting paid shit load next season to be Houstons GM and that it is his dream job, being from Houston. Best news ever for the AL East.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,577
    George: I like sports. I could do something in sports.
    Jerry: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. In what capacity?
    George: You know, like the general manager of a baseball team or something.
    Jerry: Yeah. Well, that - that could be tough to get.
    George: Well, it doesn't even have to be the general manager. Maybe I could be like, an announcer. Like a colour man. You know how I always make those interesting comments during the game.
    Jerry: Yeah. Yeah. You make good comments.
    George: What about that?
    Jerry: Well, they tend to give those jobs to ex-ballplayers and people that are, you know, in broadcasting.
    George: Well, that's really not fair.
    Jerry: I know. Well, okay. Okay. What else do you like?
    George: Movies. I like to watch movies.
    Jerry: Yeah. Yeah.
    George: Do they pay people to watch movies?
    Jerry: Projectionists.
    George: That's true.
    Jerry: But you gotta know how to work the projector.
    George: Right.
    Jerry: And it's probably a union thing.
    George: (scoffs) Those unions. (sighs) Okay. Sports, movies what about a talk show host?
    Jerry: Talk show host. That's good.
    George: I think I'd be good at that. I talk to people all the time. Someone even told me once they thought I'd be a good talk show host.
    Jerry: Really?
    George: Yeah. A couple of people. I don't get that, though. Where do you start?
    Jerry: Well, that's where it gets tricky.
    George: You can't just walk into a building and say "I wanna be a talk show host".
    Jerry: I wouldn't think so.
    George: It's all politics.
    Jerry: All right, okay. Sports, movies, talk show host. What else?
    George: This could have been a huge mistake.
    Jerry: Well, it doesn't sound like you completely thought this through.
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    So much for that vaunted philly rotation :P
    81 is now off the air

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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    81 wrote:
    So much for that vaunted philly rotation :P

    bit your tongue.

    are those Dancing on Air commercials a joke?? wtf
  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    You have the chicago feed?

    You see the fraud philly fan with a philly jersey and cubs hat
    81 is now off the air

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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,385
    81 wrote:
    So much for that vaunted philly rotation :P

    No hitter.
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,385
    81 wrote:
    So much for that vaunted philly rotation :P

    No hitter.

    Thru 4.

    So nice to see Victorino in CF.
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    No no no
    81 is now off the air

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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    81 wrote:
    You have the chicago feed?

    You see the fraud philly fan with a philly jersey and cubs hat

    Nope. I'm coming to you live from havertown tonight. there is some cheesy commercial for an 80s dance show on the philly station. has to be some kind of joke
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,385
    Terrible K for Utley.
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 41,823
    The Fixer wrote:
    81 wrote:
    So much for that vaunted philly rotation :P

    bit your tongue.

    are those Dancing on Air commercials a joke?? wtf


    i saw that and was also like WTF? is this a joke but then it just occurred to me. Isn't that game retro 80's night at CBP?
    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Terrible K for Utley.

    yeah, but he did have 2 strikes when martinez ended up on third.

    he is struggling though. his avg is down 20 points in the last 2-3 weeks. he was just hitting 280.

    how do you get jammed on a 3-1 pitch??? should never ever happen
  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    How much are you paying howard to swing at air
    81 is now off the air

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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,853
    So how'd ya like Howard's AB, Fixer?
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024Philly 2

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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:
    81 wrote:
    So much for that vaunted philly rotation :P

    bit your tongue.

    are those Dancing on Air commercials a joke?? wtf


    i saw that and was also like WTF? is this a joke but then it just occurred to me. Isn't that game retro 80's night at CBP?

    not sure. there has to be some kind of explanation
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    So how'd ya like Howard's AB, Fixer?

    just posted that a ML hitter should NEVER get jammed on a 3-1 pitch.

    ah, serenity now
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,853
    81 wrote:
    How much are you paying howard to swing at air

    I play MLB The Show for PS3 online all the time, and Howard looked like a noob who gets nervous on 3-2 and just swings hoping it's a fastball down the middle. As Matt Vasgersian, the play by play guy on the game, would say, "looks like he's swinging a garden-hose."
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,385
    The Fixer wrote:
    Terrible K for Utley.

    yeah, but he did have 2 strikes when martinez ended up on third.

    he is struggling though. his avg is down 20 points in the last 2-3 weeks. he was just hitting 280.

    how do you get jammed on a 3-1 pitch??? should never ever happen

    These two guys both look awful.
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:
    Terrible K for Utley.

    yeah, but he did have 2 strikes when martinez ended up on third.

    he is struggling though. his avg is down 20 points in the last 2-3 weeks. he was just hitting 280.

    how do you get jammed on a 3-1 pitch??? should never ever happen

    These two guys both look awful.

    This lineup blows
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,853
    The Fixer wrote:
    This lineup blows

    Oh come on. It's a good line-up that's just not hitting right now. They're top 10 in the NL in most batting categories as a team. That's all ya need with a starting staff like this.
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024Philly 2

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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:
    This lineup blows

    Oh come on. It's a good line-up that's just not hitting right now. They're top 10 in the NL in most batting categories as a team. That's all ya need with a starting staff like this.

    Not sure if the top 10 comment was sarcasm or not.

    Their lineup was much better last year and we know how that worked out.

    I do think the phils are gonna win this game. they just gotta get garza out of the game and the cubs pen will win it for them
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,853
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    This lineup blows

    Oh come on. It's a good line-up that's just not hitting right now. They're top 10 in the NL in most batting categories as a team. That's all ya need with a starting staff like this.

    Not sure if the top 10 comment was sarcasm or not.

    Their lineup was much better last year and we know how that worked out.

    I do think the phils are gonna win this game. they just gotta get garza out of the game and the cubs pen will win it for them

    No I wasn't being sarcastic. They are in the top 10 in the National League in virtually every stat (http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable.jsp#s ... am+hitting). And just because they're not hitting well now doesn't mean they won't be hitting well in September/October. They could come around.
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024Philly 2

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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:

    Oh come on. It's a good line-up that's just not hitting right now. They're top 10 in the NL in most batting categories as a team. That's all ya need with a starting staff like this.

    Not sure if the top 10 comment was sarcasm or not.

    Their lineup was much better last year and we know how that worked out.

    I do think the phils are gonna win this game. they just gotta get garza out of the game and the cubs pen will win it for them

    No I wasn't being sarcastic. They are in the top 10 in the National League in virtually every stat (http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable.jsp#s ... am+hitting). And just because they're not hitting well now doesn't mean they won't be hitting well in September/October. They could come around.

    there are only 16 teams in the NL. being in the top 10 isn't anything special. they're still in the bottom half of most categories.

    the thing about this lineup is that it's a bunch of older players. a lot of them are still big names, but not the players they used to be. they could come around...hopefully they will. I'm just preparing myself for a repeat of last year's playoff frustration because the offense isn't as good as it was then.

    the thing that bothers me more than anything is the approach this team takes. garza was all over the place tonight and he still went 7 innings. utley and chooch are the only ones that know how to work a count. they really miss werth in that respect.
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,385
    Gload. :roll: Glad Cholly took Cliff out.

    Top 10 in NL? There are only 16 teams. Including teams in pitchers parks like Giants, Braves, Dodgers, Padres, Nats, and Mets.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,853
    The Fixer wrote:
    there are only 16 teams in the NL. being in the top 10 isn't anything special. they're still in the bottom half of most categories.

    the thing about this lineup is that it's a bunch of older players. a lot of them are still big names, but not the players they used to be. they could come around...hopefully they will. I'm just preparing myself for a repeat of last year's playoff frustration because the offense isn't as good as it was then.

    the thing that bothers me more than anything is the approach this team takes. garza was all over the place tonight and he still went 7 innings. utley and chooch are the only ones that know how to work a count. they really miss werth in that respect.

    Yeah but bottom-half of the NL isn't the end of the world when you've got pitching like this. You're right that the hitting has to come around for them to truly contend in October. But i just can't fathom all this talent is gonna fizzle out like this. And you're right that they're older. But as a unit, there's no reason that this group isn't giving SOME run support. I'll worry if they're still hitting like this a month from now.
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    ibanez and brown are high comedy in the field
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