Interesting move. You get Halladay long term and Lee is obviously not going to sign an extension before next off season so you end up with an oustanding pitcher for the next 5 years probably. Don't know how much better it makes them tomorrow but overall a very solid move.
Why in the world would u trade Lee,happ and brown for halladay? Thats what im hearing. re-sign Lee and be done with it keep Happ and any others.
Lee has made it clear he is not signing an extension before next year from everything I have read
If they paid him what he wants which is probably top of the line money like hallady is asking then he would. makes no sense to get a pitcher that is as good and sign him to a huge contract and trdae a really good young pitcher and a top prospect. Sign lee to the money he deserves keep happ and brown end of story. Lee is worth it he already proved his worth here and in cleveland. Theres no chance a pitcher can pitch better in the playoffs then he did last postseason.
Why in the world would u trade Lee,happ and brown for halladay? Thats what im hearing. re-sign Lee and be done with it keep Happ and any others.
You wouldn't.. you would trade Lee to a 3rd team for players that Toronto wanted.. then trade those players and maybe Happ or Brown to Toronto for Halladay and cash...
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Why in the world would u trade Lee,happ and brown for halladay? Thats what im hearing. re-sign Lee and be done with it keep Happ and any others.
You wouldn't.. you would trade Lee to a 3rd team for players that Toronto wanted.. then trade those players and maybe Happ or Brown to Toronto for Halladay and cash...
same thing your trading all 3 for halladay pretty much just sign LEE
Why in the world would u trade Lee,happ and brown for halladay? Thats what im hearing. re-sign Lee and be done with it keep Happ and any others.
You wouldn't.. you would trade Lee to a 3rd team for players that Toronto wanted.. then trade those players and maybe Happ or Brown to Toronto for Halladay and cash...
same thing your trading all 3 for halladay pretty much just sign LEE
Lee wants HUGE money and will test FA to make sure he gets the best deal for him... with a trade and extension of Halladay, the Phils have more leverage and aren't involved in basically a highest bidder wins auction. And you would only lose one prospect with Lee, not three or more.. this organization has a window bigger than just two years.
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Looks like it is a done deal. Lee to Seattle (although Heyman is now not confirming it) and Halladay to Philly.
Very good move long term but definitely does not make the Phillies much better tomorrow. Still relying on Hamels.
And I'm fine with that.. Hamels will be a stud. I think the short offseason, paired with so much going on around him (new kid(s), post WS engagements, signings, appearances and whatnot, lack of offseason training) produced what we saw last season. Now that he's been through it and seen that he has to workout in the offseason to be effective, we'll see the Cole of two years ago out there.
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Looks like it is a done deal. Lee to Seattle (although Heyman is now not confirming it) and Halladay to Philly.
Very good move long term but definitely does not make the Phillies much better tomorrow. Still relying on Hamels.
Ya really can't argue with ANYTHING that Amaro's done so far. I'm assuming with this move, the Phils didn't give up THEIR farm system to get him, signing Doc long term, and now you have a 1/2 punch of Doc/Hamels for the next 5 years or so. That's fucking amazing. And then you have your prospects to work in. It's still not a bad thing to have Doc/Cole as a 1/2. I think we were getting ahead of ourselves to think we would have all three on board for a year without getting fucked in the long run. I absolutely love the direction this team is going, and have no qualms with RAJ at all. For better or worse, this is great.
For Christ's sakes, I go to a meeting and come out 90 minutes later to find all this. Jesus, Lord, thank you.
Getting Halladay long term is awesome though - will see who they gave up - if none of the top prospects than a great move by Amaro although having Lee and Halladay together for a year would have been insane.
As a Met fan, I'm not totally crushed by this news..I mean, you really can't pitch any better than Lee did for you down the stretch..He was lights out in big spots..
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As a Met fan, I'm not totally crushed by this news..I mean, you really can't pitch any better than Lee did for you down the stretch..He was lights out in big spots..
We will trade prospects to toronto they will send us halladay then we will get prospects from seattle for lee. Thats what my friend said he heard.
Then why would Seatlle even be included? Toronto has to be getting something from Seattle otherwise it would just be two seperate trades with the Phillies restocking their farm.
As a Met fan, I'm not totally crushed by this news..I mean, you really can't pitch any better than Lee did for you down the stretch..He was lights out in big spots..
I feel the same way as a Phillies fan
Lee was crazy in the playoffs !!
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We will trade prospects to toronto they will send us halladay then we will get prospects from seattle for lee. Thats what my friend said he heard.
if Amaro pulled this off without giving up Happ, Brown or Drabek it would incredible. Not sure if that is going to be possible but can't wait to hear the news. Securing Halladay for at least 3 years is huge for this team.
We will trade prospects to toronto they will send us halladay then we will get prospects from seattle for lee. Thats what my friend said he heard.
Then why would Seatlle even be included? Toronto has to be getting something from Seattle otherwise it would just be two seperate trades with the Phillies restocking their farm.
Exactly. It has to be Seattle trading most of the prospect. MAYBE the Phils include one at best.
We will trade prospects to toronto they will send us halladay then we will get prospects from seattle for lee. Thats what my friend said he heard.
Then why would Seatlle even be included? Toronto has to be getting something from Seattle otherwise it would just be two seperate trades with the Phillies restocking their farm.
most likely it will be a combo of prospects from Seattle and the Phillies to Toronto
We will trade prospects to toronto they will send us halladay then we will get prospects from seattle for lee. Thats what my friend said he heard.
Then why would Seatlle even be included? Toronto has to be getting something from Seattle otherwise it would just be two seperate trades with the Phillies restocking their farm.
no clue im sure he's wrong. I read we would send lee to sea and michael Taylor to toronto
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Lee has made it clear he is not signing an extension before next year from everything I have read
Lee has never had a big pay day and wants a deal similar to what C.C. got or at the very least better than Burnett's deal.
Remember Lee's agent is also Burnett's agent and Burnett opted out of his contract with Toronto to become a free agent last year.
And the Phils traditionally don't sign pitchers to more than 3 or 4 year deals so the odds were always very small of Lee resigning.
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You wouldn't.. you would trade Lee to a 3rd team for players that Toronto wanted.. then trade those players and maybe Happ or Brown to Toronto for Halladay and cash...
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Lee wants HUGE money and will test FA to make sure he gets the best deal for him... with a trade and extension of Halladay, the Phils have more leverage and aren't involved in basically a highest bidder wins auction. And you would only lose one prospect with Lee, not three or more.. this organization has a window bigger than just two years.
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Looks like it is a done deal. Lee to Seattle (although Heyman is now not confirming it) and Halladay to Philly.
Very good move long term but definitely does not make the Phillies much better tomorrow. Still relying on Hamels.
And I'm fine with that.. Hamels will be a stud. I think the short offseason, paired with so much going on around him (new kid(s), post WS engagements, signings, appearances and whatnot, lack of offseason training) produced what we saw last season. Now that he's been through it and seen that he has to workout in the offseason to be effective, we'll see the Cole of two years ago out there.
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Sources say Halladay will agree to a contract extension to complete the deal. It's expected to be a formality.
The Phillies have discussed Cliff Lee in trades, but it isn't confirmed who the Mariners would be receiving in this deal.
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Ya really can't argue with ANYTHING that Amaro's done so far. I'm assuming with this move, the Phils didn't give up THEIR farm system to get him, signing Doc long term, and now you have a 1/2 punch of Doc/Hamels for the next 5 years or so. That's fucking amazing. And then you have your prospects to work in. It's still not a bad thing to have Doc/Cole as a 1/2. I think we were getting ahead of ourselves to think we would have all three on board for a year without getting fucked in the long run. I absolutely love the direction this team is going, and have no qualms with RAJ at all. For better or worse, this is great.
For Christ's sakes, I go to a meeting and come out 90 minutes later to find all this. Jesus, Lord, thank you.
I dont think Happ will be part of it.
Sign Halladay long term and let Lee Walk
Are we that much better with Halladay and losing Lee ?
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and I'll overdo it'
True. Now imagine that past just one more year.
Then why would Seatlle even be included? Toronto has to be getting something from Seattle otherwise it would just be two seperate trades with the Phillies restocking their farm.
I feel the same way as a Phillies fan
Lee was crazy in the playoffs !!
The ONLY thing better than a glass of beer is tea with Miss McGill
A protuberance of flesh above the waistband of a tight pair of trousers
if Amaro pulled this off without giving up Happ, Brown or Drabek it would incredible. Not sure if that is going to be possible but can't wait to hear the news. Securing Halladay for at least 3 years is huge for this team.
Exactly. It has to be Seattle trading most of the prospect. MAYBE the Phils include one at best.
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most likely it will be a combo of prospects from Seattle and the Phillies to Toronto