***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Thread***

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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,950
    Anyway, I hope you guys can slip in.
    I hope we can too. The Gs are a very flawed team and missing their two best hitters (Buster and Sanchez). The offense is anemic. Still, we're in first. Everyone in the lineup is capable of hitting better, so I think we'll be there at the end.

    and then, like I said, you will want no part of us!
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,985
    imalive wrote:
    Anyway, I hope you guys can slip in.
    I hope we can too. The Gs are a very flawed team and missing their two best hitters (Buster and Sanchez). The offense is anemic. Still, we're in first. Everyone in the lineup is capable of hitting better, so I think we'll be there at the end.

    and then, like I said, you will want no part of us!

    Funny thing is I actually would .
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,435
    imalive wrote:
    Anyway, I hope you guys can slip in.
    I hope we can too. The Gs are a very flawed team and missing their two best hitters (Buster and Sanchez). The offense is anemic. Still, we're in first. Everyone in the lineup is capable of hitting better, so I think we'll be there at the end.

    and then, like I said, you will want no part of us!

    i'd love to phils to play giants in the nlcs again. as said above ligthning doesn't strike twice.
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,950
    you had to like the props our boy gave Doc:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5-47hAr ... re=related

    admit it....a small part of you LIKES Brian Wilson :lol:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,389
    imalive wrote:
    you had to like the props our boy gave Doc:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5-47hAr ... re=related

    admit it....a small part of you LIKES Brian Wilson :lol:

    not really
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    imalive wrote:
    you had to like the props our boy gave Doc:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5-47hAr ... re=related

    admit it....a small part of you LIKES Brian Wilson :lol:


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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,950
    imalive wrote:
    you had to like the props our boy gave Doc:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5-47hAr ... re=related

    admit it....a small part of you LIKES Brian Wilson :lol:

    not really
    not even a little? :? :lol:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,389
    imalive wrote:
    not even a little? :? :lol:

    Maybe 10% more than Barry Bonds. Unfortunately, 0 x 1.1 = 0.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,581
    :lol: ....pjhawks' new avatar :lol:
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  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    :lol: ....pjhawks' new avatar :lol:
    Most under appreciated Monster out there.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,581
    :lol: ....pjhawks' new avatar :lol:
    Most under appreciated Monster out there.

    it's a cool picture
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  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    :lol: ....pjhawks' new avatar :lol:
    Most under appreciated Monster out there.

    it's a cool picture
    I agree!!!
    Go Birds!!!!
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,985
    Anybody actually read the article yet? Pretty awesome. No, fucking awesome is more like it.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/ ... /index.htm
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,435
    Anybody actually read the article yet? Pretty awesome. No, fucking awesome is more like it.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/ ... /index.htm

    wow i agree what a fucking awesome article. chooch is the man.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,581
    i prefer "The Ace Catcher" over "The Ace Receiver" though..


    ....apparently SI has a couple other big Phils pieces slated for the 2nd half of the season....
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,730
    Gotta do it...sorry. I will leave it at this though.

    http://deadspin.com/5820878/ryan-howard ... ill-conlin
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,985
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Gotta do it...sorry. I will leave it at this though.

    http://deadspin.com/5820878/ryan-howard ... ill-conlin

    What I love about the WAR stat the most, and those that choose to totally exclude it, is the eerie similarity to religious freaks not wanting to accept evolution. It's the baseball version of "Inherit The Wind". :lol:
  • PureandEasyPureandEasy Posts: 5,799
    Anybody actually read the article yet? Pretty awesome. No, fucking awesome is more like it.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/ ... /index.htm


    I agree, that was a fucking awesome article. Love Chooch. I'd love to see him do Charlie. :lol:
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,730
    Anybody actually read the article yet? Pretty awesome. No, fucking awesome is more like it.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/ ... /index.htm


    I agree, that was a fucking awesome article. Love Chooch. I'd love to see him do Charlie. :lol:

    Say what?
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,985
    Anybody actually read the article yet? Pretty awesome. No, fucking awesome is more like it.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/ ... /index.htm


    I agree, that was a fucking awesome article. Love Chooch. I'd love to see him do Charlie. :lol:

    I'd love to see him do anything not baseball-related. I would love to get hammered with that man.

    EDIT: After reading Cliff's response, yes, I mean anything.
  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Gotta do it...sorry. I will leave it at this though.

    http://deadspin.com/5820878/ryan-howard ... ill-conlin

    What I love about the WAR stat the most, and those that choose to totally exclude it, is the eerie similarity to religious freaks not wanting to accept evolution. It's the baseball version of "Inherit The Wind". :lol:
    What exactly has the War teams won? If i told ya player A was gonna hit 42hrs and 140rbis,how can any stat prove that's not productive?
    Go Birds!!!!
  • PureandEasyPureandEasy Posts: 5,799
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Anybody actually read the article yet? Pretty awesome. No, fucking awesome is more like it.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/ ... /index.htm


    I agree, that was a fucking awesome article. Love Chooch. I'd love to see him do Charlie. :lol:

    Say what?


    I knew someone would react like that, but I didn't know how else to phrase it. :lol:
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,985
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Gotta do it...sorry. I will leave it at this though.

    http://deadspin.com/5820878/ryan-howard ... ill-conlin

    What I love about the WAR stat the most, and those that choose to totally exclude it, is the eerie similarity to religious freaks not wanting to accept evolution. It's the baseball version of "Inherit The Wind". :lol:
    What exactly has the War teams won? If i told ya player A was gonna hit 42hrs and 140rbis,how can any stat prove that's not productive?

    Like talking to NASCAR fans.....I swear, I think some people here are of the philly.com commenter/WIP-caller ilk.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,730
    I knew someone would react like that, but I didn't know how else to phrase it. :lol:

    I read it 5 times trying to figure out what you meant and finally got it, only after I posted that.
  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    I understand War there pal,what i'm saying is teams/gm's that swear by it how have they done? I sure as hell know Mr Bean hasn't won shit by swearing by it.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,853
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Gotta do it...sorry. I will leave it at this though.

    http://deadspin.com/5820878/ryan-howard ... ill-conlin

    The original article by Bill Conlin (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phi ... ?viewAll=y) sounds like something a Howard fan-boy like me would write in response to The Fixer's criticism.
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  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Gotta do it...sorry. I will leave it at this though.

    http://deadspin.com/5820878/ryan-howard ... ill-conlin

    The original article by Bill Conlin (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phi ... ?viewAll=y) sounds like something a Howard fan-boy like me would write in response to The Fixer's criticism.
    Wheter or not Howard made the player get into a spot to score,by doing his job the phillies put a run on the board. I'm sure if you go back there's many of #4 hitters who had alot of chances to knock in RBI's and they can't sniff Howard's production.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,389
    I loved that Conlin article. By the way, Howard is hitting .317 with RISP this year. In case you're wondering where he got all those ribeyes that don't mean anything.

    I think the WAR people are the brainwashed cult, personally. And I think I've demonstrated that I have a full understanding (as much as one can) of what WAR is.
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  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    But i'll also agree that he has flaws that are very frustrating. But the man lost 20-30lbs works hard and produces sorry he's not perfect though.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,435
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Gotta do it...sorry. I will leave it at this though.

    http://deadspin.com/5820878/ryan-howard ... ill-conlin

    What I love about the WAR stat the most, and those that choose to totally exclude it, is the eerie similarity to religious freaks not wanting to accept evolution. It's the baseball version of "Inherit The Wind". :lol:

    on the opposite end of the spectrum are the people who treat WAR like the be-all-end-all. frankly all stats in baseball are a bit suspect because not all situations are the same. big hits in big games and best players on perenial winners are more valuable than great players on bad teams. it's much easier being a great player on a shitty team than a top level player on a 4 time division champion. it just is.

    and i read conlin's original article and why i agree with the premise the contents of the article were pretty much crap. he could have made better arguments than comparing him to a guy from 80 years ago.
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