***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Thread***

Ledbetterman10

Lee is a fine hitter. 5 for 13 since joining the Phils for a .384 average.

Jearlpam0925

http://www.birdlandphiladelphia.com/pro ... erlee-love

PJSerf

Its official, Cliff Lee is my new man crush. Sorry Ed.

Jearlpam0925

I know he's always been a better first-half player, but there's something that's definitely starting to bother me - Raul Ibanez. Either he's still injured, or, in my opinion, he's looking just flat out old. At the plate he just doesn't look the same - behind on fastballs, swinging in the dirt. He just doesn't look as loose at the dish as he did earlier on. His fielding has been questionable lately as well. I'm not looking for Superman here like we had in the first half of the season, but hopefully he can turn it on again. Going from hitting .340 to .289 is a drastic drop off. All I hope is he regains some piece of the 1st half form in September into October.

chromiam

Anyone notice, no more World Series patches on the Phils uniforms????

Nice gesture that last year is over and this year is all that matters.

pjhawks

Jearlpam0925 wrote:

I know he's always been a better first-half player, but there's something that's definitely starting to bother me - Raul Ibanez. Either he's still injured, or, in my opinion, he's looking just flat out old. At the plate he just doesn't look the same - behind on fastballs, swinging in the dirt. He just doesn't look as loose at the dish as he did earlier on. His fielding has been questionable lately as well. I'm not looking for Superman here like we had in the first half of the season, but hopefully he can turn it on again. Going from hitting .340 to .289 is a drastic drop off. All I hope is he regains some piece of the 1st half form in September into October.

I think it must be the groin still bothering him. It's like he doesn't even hit the ball hard anymore. It's all been since his injury. One concern is since May his hitting with runners in scoring position is under .200 - not good. I would suspect he will come back to somewhere between how bad he is now and how good he was in the beginning as long as he can stay and/or get healthy.

pjhawks

gotta love whipping lousy teams like the Mets. Bring on the Pirates next. Kick Atlanta's butt on the weekend and get this division way out of sight.

The Champ

pjhawks wrote:

gotta love whipping lousy teams like the Mets. Bring on the Pirates next. Kick Atlanta's butt on the weekend and get this division way out of sight.

Could you guys please stop referring to this mess as the Mets..imagine all of a sudden waking up tomorrow without Utley, Howard, Rollins, Werth, Victorino, Ibanez and their immediate back-ups..this would almost be the equivalent of the team you fighting Phills so proudly beat up on..actually Friday you lost, and Sunday barely survived due to some freak play that prior has only occurred once in history to end a game, way back in 1927. In the meantime, Francoeur got injured for the first time in his baseball career and Santana is out for the season....please explain how all this could occur to a team in one season? Please, won't someone..please..

pjhawks

The Champ wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

gotta love whipping lousy teams like the Mets. Bring on the Pirates next. Kick Atlanta's butt on the weekend and get this division way out of sight.

Could you guys please stop referring to this mess as the Mets..imagine all of a sudden waking up tomorrow without Utley, Howard, Rollins, Werth, Victorino, Ibanez and their immediate back-ups..this would almost be the equivalent of the team you fighting Phills so proudly beat up on..actually Friday you lost, and Sunday barely survived due to some freak play that prior has only occurred once in history to end a game, way back in 1927. In the meantime, Francoeur got injured for the first time in his baseball career and Santana is out for the season....please explain how all this could occur to a team in one season? Please, won't someone..please..

stop please - you couldn't beat us 2 years in a row with all your players. why does it matter? at least now it is August you know you are done. At least you don't have to think you have a chance and get crushed in the end. Would it make you feel better to watch Reyes laugh it up as you are choking again? We've beaten you 2 years in a row with a lesser team - we are even better this year. You weren't beating us anyway.

The Champ

pjhawks wrote:

The Champ wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

gotta love whipping lousy teams like the Mets. Bring on the Pirates next. Kick Atlanta's butt on the weekend and get this division way out of sight.

Could you guys please stop referring to this mess as the Mets..imagine all of a sudden waking up tomorrow without Utley, Howard, Rollins, Werth, Victorino, Ibanez and their immediate back-ups..this would almost be the equivalent of the team you fighting Phills so proudly beat up on..actually Friday you lost, and Sunday barely survived due to some freak play that prior has only occurred once in history to end a game, way back in 1927. In the meantime, Francoeur got injured for the first time in his baseball career and Santana is out for the season....please explain how all this could occur to a team in one season? Please, won't someone..please..

stop please - you couldn't beat us 2 years in a row with all your players. why does it matter? at least now it is August you know you are done. At least you don't have to think you have a chance and get crushed in the end. Would it make you feel better to watch Reyes laugh it up as you are choking again? We've beaten you 2 years in a row with a lesser team - we are even better this year. You weren't beating us anyway.

Actually, I'm not sure about 2007 but last year the Mets beat the Phillies head to head, even without a bullpen. They chocked it away to other shitty teams, opening the door for the Phills..anyway, good luck rest of the way guys..

pjhawks

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stop please - you couldn't beat us 2 years in a row with all your players. why does it matter? at least now it is August you know you are done. At least you don't have to think you have a chance and get crushed in the end. Would it make you feel better to watch Reyes laugh it up as you are choking again? We've beaten you 2 years in a row with a lesser team - we are even better this year. You weren't beating us anyway.[/quote]

Actually, I'm not sure about 2007 but last year the Mets beat the Phillies head to head, even without a bullpen. They chocked it away to other shitty teams, opening the door for the Phills..anyway, good luck rest of the way guys..[/quote]

wow so you beat the Phils head-to-head - want to put a banner up for that one?

The Champ

pjhawks wrote:

wow so you beat the Phils head-to-head - want to put a banner up for that one?

What are you talking shit for again? You're acting like the Mets can't or haven't competed with the Phillies, which obviously isn't the case if they beat them head to head last year. Big choke artists, yes, but not against the Phills..let's get real..anyway, we are waiting word on Santana's possible career ending injury..lol..again, good luck rest of the way..

pjhawks

The Champ wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

wow so you beat the Phils head-to-head - want to put a banner up for that one?

What are you talking shit for again? You're acting like the Mets can't or haven't competed with the Phillies, which obviously isn't the case if they beat them head to head last year. Big choke artists, yes, but not against the Phills..let's get real..anyway, we are waiting word on Santana's possible career ending injury..lol..again, good luck rest of the way..

because I am sick of reading every day you complaining about the Mets and their injuries (in a Phillies thread but Ill give you a pass this week since they played the phils) and, as I said above, it's not like it made a difference for the Mets to be healthy the last 2 years.

JD Sal

The Champ wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

gotta love whipping lousy teams like the Mets. Bring on the Pirates next. Kick Atlanta's butt on the weekend and get this division way out of sight.

Could you guys please stop referring to this mess as the Mets..imagine all of a sudden waking up tomorrow without Utley, Howard, Rollins, Werth, Victorino, Ibanez and their immediate back-ups..this would almost be the equivalent of the team you fighting Phills so proudly beat up on..actually Friday you lost, and Sunday barely survived due to some freak play that prior has only occurred once in history to end a game, way back in 1927. In the meantime, Francoeur got injured for the first time in his baseball career and Santana is out for the season....please explain how all this could occur to a team in one season? Please, won't someone..please..

It's perfectly fitting since we don't call them Da Mets in Philly, we call them Da Mess!

The Champ

pjhawks wrote:

The Champ wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

wow so you beat the Phils head-to-head - want to put a banner up for that one?

What are you talking shit for again? You're acting like the Mets can't or haven't competed with the Phillies, which obviously isn't the case if they beat them head to head last year. Big choke artists, yes, but not against the Phills..let's get real..anyway, we are waiting word on Santana's possible career ending injury..lol..again, good luck rest of the way..

because I am sick of reading every day you complaining about the Mets and their injuries (in a Phillies thread but Ill give you a pass this week since they played the phils) and, as I said above, it's not like it made a difference for the Mets to be healthy the last 2 years.

1) Thanks for the pass, boss..and I'm not in this thread complaining every day as I haven't posted in here since the 17th of this month...so you must be reading the Mets thread daily, which I suggest you stop if I aggravate you to this extend..

2) You're just talking straight up nonsense. 2007 was a total collapse, and I'll give you that. Last year the team won 89 games while blowing about 30 saves. It is completely ridiculous to think that the same team with the additions of K-Rod and Putz wouldn't have been a force this year. Not to mention the Mets handled the Phillies head to head last year...and did so once again this year, while coasting in first place with a record of 28-21, before everyone started dropping like flies..

But yeah, it doesn't make an ounce of difference ..

The Champ

JD Sal wrote:

It's perfectly fitting since we don't call them Da Mets in Philly, we call them Da Mess!

A cursed mess run by incompetent people..

petrocs

Who wants some salt water taffy

All Y'ALL CHILL THE EFF OUT OR IM BRINGING THE CHAINS OUT!

nfanel

brad lidge, you are breaking my heart.

p.s. that last picture was disturbing.

The Juggler

bullpen by committee? myers? pedro? madson? chopper?

i think they should have at least considered...gasp...billy wags. but jesus h christ. lidge blew a save to a god damn farm team tonight. that was painful to watch. and, come on werth, its the ninth inning with the game on the line. how do you botch that up? what are we, 2 games behind LA right now? should have swept this team...

pjhawks

got to give Myers a chance in September. Lidge is done - he is getting torched. All those balls were bullets last night - it's not like they are flaring them in on him. Brutal.