1999 - Phillies - Brett Myers, Mets - none
2000 - Phillies - Chase Utley, Mets - Billy Traber (last seen being cut by the Red Sox in August)
2001 - Phillies - Gavin Floyd (traded for Freddy Garcia), Mets - Aaron Heilman, David Wright
2002 - Phillies - Cole Hamels, Mets Scott Kazmir (traded for Victor Zambrano)
2003 - Phillies - none, Mets - Lastings Milledge (traded to Washington and then Pittsburgh)
2004 - Phillies - Greg Golson (traded to Texas), Phil Humber (traded for Santana), team also could have
picked Jeff Niemann, Phil Hughes or Jered Weaver)
2005 - Phillies - none, Mets - Mike Pelfrey (jury's still out there)
2006 - Phillies - Kyle Drabek (12-3 on two minor league levels in 09), Mets - none
2007 - Phillies - Joe Savery (pitched to a 4 ERA this year, could have taken Porcello though), Mets - Eddie Kunz
(5.02 ERA in 09)
You guys can make your conclusions from that data.
Reading 2004
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016 Fenway 2, 2018 MSG 2022 St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023 MSG 2024, MSG 2024 Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
I'm still trying to figure out how Pedro gets 130 pitches against the Mets last month but only 87 in the postseason. At least, he should have been on a batter-by-batter basis in the eighth.
not that hard to figure out...he had pitched one time in the last month.
I was on record as saying manuel should have started blanton over pedro...pedro was amazing. only mistake manuel made was bringing in happ to face ethier. madson was dealing. and happ sucks
This is irrelevant, but Metsfan, the Phils "sucked" up until 05-06? Rrrrright. They've been one of the most consistent winning teams since '01. Just haven't gotten over the hump to the playoff until '07. This coming from a Mets fan. Dude, seriously? You guys won in '86 and have tasted as much of the playoffs as us since then. Seriously, you're a Mets fan, futility is in your blood more than ours.
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the young buck is out of his element in this thread.
where did you guys finish from 99-07. i believe it was either 2nd,3rd or 4th.
having a winning record means shit. making the playoffs means something. if having a winning seasons means so much to you than become a marlins fans. you play to win the world series, not have a winning record. i don't settle for a winning season, i settle for a championship.
champ do you really wanna have to deal with yankee fans gloating around the city for the couple years. i sure as fuck don't wanna.
99 phillies finished in 3rd
00 phillies finished in 5th
01phillies finished in 2nd
02 phillies finished in 3rd
03 phillies finished in 3rd
04 phillies finished in 2nd
05 phillies finished in 2nd
06 phillies finished in 3rd
07 phillies lost in the lds
so yea jammingpearls the phillies did suck up until 07
if those are good seasons to you than i feel sorry for you as a fan
no one cares about the eagles in this thread. I'm from philly, I love the eagles, but I don't care.
it's the playoffs...I will worry about the eagles in november when baseball is over. until then, give me phillies and pearl jam.
cliff lee was awesome tonight. once again, the crowd was horrendous. not sure what is happening in philly. hopefully tomorrow night is better
let's jump on Wolf early and make the Dodgers think they got no shot. this team is just ready to quit if you jump on them again.
i thought the crowd was fine last night - i wouldn't call it horrendous - come on it wasn't Dodger stadium - and the 'you took steroids' chat was pretty loud.
This is irrelevant, but Metsfan, the Phils "sucked" up until 05-06? Rrrrright. They've been one of the most consistent winning teams since '01. Just haven't gotten over the hump to the playoff until '07. This coming from a Mets fan. Dude, seriously? You guys won in '86 and have tasted as much of the playoffs as us since then. Seriously, you're a Mets fan, futility is in your blood more than ours.
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the young buck is out of his element in this thread.
where did you guys finish from 99-07. i believe it was either 2nd,3rd or 4th.
having a winning record means shit. making the playoffs means something. if having a winning seasons means so much to you than become a marlins fans. you play to win the world series, not have a winning record. i don't settle for a winning season, i settle for a championship.
champ do you really wanna have to deal with yankee fans gloating around the city for the couple years. i sure as fuck don't wanna.
99 phillies finished in 3rd
00 phillies finished in 5th
01phillies finished in 2nd
02 phillies finished in 3rd
03 phillies finished in 3rd
04 phillies finished in 2nd
05 phillies finished in 2nd
06 phillies finished in 3rd
07 phillies lost in the lds
so yea jammingpearls the phillies did suck up until 07
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jeez, if you only settle for a championship, then boy do i feel bad for you! 1986 was a looooong ways ago little buddy.
of course nobody settles for just a winning season. but an even somewhat intelligent person can also tell you that winning 86 games or so on average for the years you mentioned does not mean you sucked either. :roll:
not sure why you went back to 99, when i was going back to 2001 in my post. but since 01, we certainly have not sucked. for the record, the mets didnt suck in 07 and 08 either. well, they did in september, but you get what i am saying.
1999 - Phillies - Brett Myers, Mets - none
2000 - Phillies - Chase Utley, Mets - Billy Traber (last seen being cut by the Red Sox in August)
2001 - Phillies - Gavin Floyd (traded for Freddy Garcia), Mets - Aaron Heilman, David Wright
2002 - Phillies - Cole Hamels, Mets Scott Kazmir (traded for Victor Zambrano)
2003 - Phillies - none, Mets - Lastings Milledge (traded to Washington and then Pittsburgh)
2004 - Phillies - Greg Golson (traded to Texas), Phil Humber (traded for Santana), team also could have
picked Jeff Niemann, Phil Hughes or Jered Weaver)
2005 - Phillies - none, Mets - Mike Pelfrey (jury's still out there)
2006 - Phillies - Kyle Drabek (12-3 on two minor league levels in 09), Mets - none
2007 - Phillies - Joe Savery (pitched to a 4 ERA this year, could have taken Porcello though), Mets - Eddie Kunz
(5.02 ERA in 09)
You guys can make your conclusions from that data.
.....i will take the world champions for $500, alex. :roll:
6 MORE WINS UNTIL HISTORY IS MADE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!
HOW BOUT THAT BIGGER, REDDER, MORE MACHINE TEAM LAST NIGHT!
LETS GO WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!
The Phillies are a very good team but I wouldn't read too much into last night. Hiroki Kuroda was on the mound against the Phillies ace, the outcome was never really a question.
6 MORE WINS UNTIL HISTORY IS MADE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!
HOW BOUT THAT BIGGER, REDDER, MORE MACHINE TEAM LAST NIGHT!
LETS GO WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!
The Phillies are a very good team but I wouldn't read too much into last night. Hiroki Kuroda was on the mound against the Phillies ace, the outcome was never really a question.
Were the Manny chants loud enough to hear @ home ??
:P
Pretty much..what was the chant?
It was, "You took steroids...clap clap clapclapclap"
And it was awesome. Yes, you could hear it through the TV, and it looked like it miffed Manny.
Oh, and hey, Metsfan - couple of things.... Those season from '99-09, 8 of those 11 seasons the Mets finished BEHIND the Phils. Oh, and here's the biggest stat in there as well -
'99-'09 Phils World Championships - 1(with a possible 2nd TBA)
'99-'09 Mets World Series Championshhips - ZERO
like i said when I posted all that information, you can draw your own conclusions from that data and in the long run since 1999, the Phillies have been the better of the two teams.
Reading 2004
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016 Fenway 2, 2018 MSG 2022 St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023 MSG 2024, MSG 2024 Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
It was, "You took steroids...clap clap clapclapclap"
And it was awesome. Yes, you could hear it through the TV, and it looked like it miffed Manny.
Oh, and hey, Metsfan - couple of things.... Those season from '99-09, 8 of those 11 seasons the Mets finished BEHIND the Phils. Oh, and here's the biggest stat in there as well -
'99-'09 Phils World Championships - 1(with a possible 2nd TBA)
'99-'09 Mets World Series Championshhips - ZERO
Were the Manny chants loud enough to hear @ home ??
:P
Pretty much..what was the chant?
It was, "You took steroids...clap clap clapclapclap"
And it was awesome. Yes, you could hear it through the TV, and it looked like it miffed Manny.
Oh, and hey, Metsfan - couple of things.... Those season from '99-09, 8 of those 11 seasons the Mets finished BEHIND the Phils. Oh, and here's the biggest stat in there as well -
'99-'09 Phils World Championships - 1(with a possible 2nd TBA)
'99-'09 Mets World Series Championshhips - ZERO
Thanks for playing, guy!
i'm sure we have some lovely parting gifts for him somewhere around here...
It was, "You took steroids...clap clap clapclapclap"
And it was awesome. Yes, you could hear it through the TV, and it looked like it miffed Manny.
Oh, and hey, Metsfan - couple of things.... Those season from '99-09, 8 of those 11 seasons the Mets finished BEHIND the Phils. Oh, and here's the biggest stat in there as well -
'99-'09 Phils World Championships - 1(with a possible 2nd TBA)
'99-'09 Mets World Series Championshhips - ZERO
It was, "You took steroids...clap clap clapclapclap"
And it was awesome. Yes, you could hear it through the TV, and it looked like it miffed Manny.
Oh, and hey, Metsfan - couple of things.... Those season from '99-09, 8 of those 11 seasons the Mets finished BEHIND the Phils. Oh, and here's the biggest stat in there as well -
'99-'09 Phils World Championships - 1(with a possible 2nd TBA)
'99-'09 Mets World Series Championshhips - ZERO
Thanks for playing, guy!
:sigh:
You are the wind beneath my wings.
Well it looks like I will be rooting for the Phils for the first time (and hopefully last time) in my life. Any recommendations?
As in which players? Ya gotta go Senor Octubre - Carlos Ruiz.
Go Carlos...
Have you hit the worst combination yet? One where you have to root for the Mets?
Eh, there's worse combos in the world of sports. Like when the Giants and Pats were in the Super Bowl. I actually rooted for the G-men because I knew just how much more obnoxious the condescending Boston fans would have become. That would have been leaps and bounds worse than the Giants winning. Actually, I was hoping for a tidal wave of AIDS to dump on top of that stadium.
Oh, and hey, Metsfan - couple of things.... Those season from '99-09, 8 of those 11 seasons the Mets finished BEHIND the Phils. Oh, and here's the biggest stat in there as well -
'99-'09 Phils World Championships - 1(with a possible 2nd TBA)
'99-'09 Mets World Series Championshhips - ZERO
Thanks for playing, guy!
funny how you add in the 3 good years to the mix when are talking bout 99-07, . bottom line is both teams did shit up until the 06 and 07 season. again having a winning season and not making the playoffs means shit to me personally. if that's how you are as a fan than i feel bad for you. you play to win the world series not go 95-67 and not make the playoffs and say hey that's a good season. look at the braves of the 90's. winning the division 14 straight years and only winning the world series once in that run. again thats great but bottom line is those braves season mean nothing without a ring.
jeez, if you only settle for a championship, then boy do i feel bad for you! 1986 was a looooong ways ago little buddy.
of course nobody settles for just a winning season. but an even somewhat intelligent person can also tell you that winning 86 games or so on average for the years you mentioned does not mean you sucked either. :roll:
i only do settle for a championship cause that's what matters the most. people hate the yankees cause they have 26 world championships not cause they finish with an above .500 record .winning 86 games means nothing to me. i could dig up how times both the phils and mets have finished above .500 but the glaring fact is did they win the world series in those years or did they choke in the playoffs or not even make them. you think those phillies players are gonna be happy if they lose to the dogers in nlcs or to the yankees in the world series and call it a good season, fuck no.
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
jeez, if you only settle for a championship, then boy do i feel bad for you! 1986 was a looooong ways ago little buddy.
of course nobody settles for just a winning season. but an even somewhat intelligent person can also tell you that winning 86 games or so on average for the years you mentioned does not mean you sucked either. :roll:
i only do settle for a championship cause that's what matters the most. people hate the yankees cause they have 26 world championships not cause they finish with an above .500 record .winning 86 games means nothing to me. i could dig up how times both the phils and mets have finished above .500 but the glaring fact is did they win the world series in those years or did they choke in the playoffs or not even make them. you think those phillies players are gonna be happy if they lose to the dogers in nlcs or to the yankees in the world series and call it a good season, fuck no.
beat it you tool. we're on our way to a 2nd consecutive world championship. there's no time to be squabling about your horrendous team. :twisted:
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1999 - Mets 97-66, Phillies 77-85
2000 - Mets 94-68, Phillies 79-82
2001 - Phillies 86-76, Mets 82-80
2002 - Phillies 80-81, Mets 75-86
2003 - Phillies 86-76, Mets 66-95
2004 - Phillies 86-76, Mets 71-91
2005 - Phillies 88-74, Mets 83-79
2006 - Mets 97-65, Phillies 85-77
2007 - Phillies 89-73, Mets 88-74
2008 - Phillies 92-70, Mets 89-73
2009 - Phillies 93-69, Mets 71-91
if you're scoring at home first-round draft picks
1999 - Phillies - Brett Myers, Mets - none
2000 - Phillies - Chase Utley, Mets - Billy Traber (last seen being cut by the Red Sox in August)
2001 - Phillies - Gavin Floyd (traded for Freddy Garcia), Mets - Aaron Heilman, David Wright
2002 - Phillies - Cole Hamels, Mets Scott Kazmir (traded for Victor Zambrano)
2003 - Phillies - none, Mets - Lastings Milledge (traded to Washington and then Pittsburgh)
2004 - Phillies - Greg Golson (traded to Texas), Phil Humber (traded for Santana), team also could have
picked Jeff Niemann, Phil Hughes or Jered Weaver)
2005 - Phillies - none, Mets - Mike Pelfrey (jury's still out there)
2006 - Phillies - Kyle Drabek (12-3 on two minor league levels in 09), Mets - none
2007 - Phillies - Joe Savery (pitched to a 4 ERA this year, could have taken Porcello though), Mets - Eddie Kunz
(5.02 ERA in 09)
You guys can make your conclusions from that data.
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
not that hard to figure out...he had pitched one time in the last month.
I was on record as saying manuel should have started blanton over pedro...pedro was amazing. only mistake manuel made was bringing in happ to face ethier. madson was dealing. and happ sucks
phils world series champs in 2008.
I feel sorry for you as a mets fan
it's the playoffs...I will worry about the eagles in november when baseball is over. until then, give me phillies and pearl jam.
cliff lee was awesome tonight. once again, the crowd was horrendous. not sure what is happening in philly. hopefully tomorrow night is better
let's jump on Wolf early and make the Dodgers think they got no shot. this team is just ready to quit if you jump on them again.
i thought the crowd was fine last night - i wouldn't call it horrendous - come on it wasn't Dodger stadium - and the 'you took steroids' chat was pretty loud.
Pedro and Lee best pick ups midseason in this franchises history!
9/24/96 MD. 9/28/96 Randalls. 8/28-29/98 Camden. 9/8/98 NJ. 9/18/98 MD. 9/1-2/00 Camden. 9/4/00 MD. 4/28/03 Philly. 7/5-6/03 Camden. 9/30/05 AC.
10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
Best game I've ever been to start to finish
What can you say about Cliff Lee (sigh)
Were the Manny chants loud enough to hear @ home ??
:P
The ONLY thing better than a glass of beer is tea with Miss McGill
A protuberance of flesh above the waistband of a tight pair of trousers
Pretty much..what was the chant?
9/24/96 MD. 9/28/96 Randalls. 8/28-29/98 Camden. 9/8/98 NJ. 9/18/98 MD. 9/1-2/00 Camden. 9/4/00 MD. 4/28/03 Philly. 7/5-6/03 Camden. 9/30/05 AC.
10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
jeez, if you only settle for a championship, then boy do i feel bad for you! 1986 was a looooong ways ago little buddy.
of course nobody settles for just a winning season. but an even somewhat intelligent person can also tell you that winning 86 games or so on average for the years you mentioned does not mean you sucked either. :roll:
not sure why you went back to 99, when i was going back to 2001 in my post. but since 01, we certainly have not sucked. for the record, the mets didnt suck in 07 and 08 either. well, they did in september, but you get what i am saying.
beat it mets/cowboys fan. this aint your rodeo!
HOW BOUT THAT BIGGER, REDDER, MORE MACHINE TEAM LAST NIGHT!
LETS GO WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!
.....i will take the world champions for $500, alex. :roll:
The Phillies are a very good team but I wouldn't read too much into last night. Hiroki Kuroda was on the mound against the Phillies ace, the outcome was never really a question.
.....neither is the outcome of this series.
WHADDYA SAY NOW, WORLD CHAMPIONS!
It was, "You took steroids...clap clap clapclapclap"
And it was awesome. Yes, you could hear it through the TV, and it looked like it miffed Manny.
Oh, and hey, Metsfan - couple of things.... Those season from '99-09, 8 of those 11 seasons the Mets finished BEHIND the Phils. Oh, and here's the biggest stat in there as well -
'99-'09 Phils World Championships - 1(with a possible 2nd TBA)
'99-'09 Mets World Series Championshhips - ZERO
Thanks for playing, guy!
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
i'm sure we have some lovely parting gifts for him somewhere around here...
You are the wind beneath my wings.
As in which players? Ya gotta go Senor Octubre - Carlos Ruiz.
Go Carlos...
Have you hit the worst combination yet? One where you have to root for the Mets?
Eh, there's worse combos in the world of sports. Like when the Giants and Pats were in the Super Bowl. I actually rooted for the G-men because I knew just how much more obnoxious the condescending Boston fans would have become. That would have been leaps and bounds worse than the Giants winning. Actually, I was hoping for a tidal wave of AIDS to dump on top of that stadium.
Can't wait for ......YOU TOOK STEROIDS...clap clap clapclapclap
funny how you add in the 3 good years to the mix when are talking bout 99-07,
cheesesteaks and sam adams will do just fine, lol.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
beat it you tool. we're on our way to a 2nd consecutive world championship. there's no time to be squabling about your horrendous team. :twisted:
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, YOUR DEFENDING WORLD CHAMPIONS
WHAT
A
GAME!
GO PHILLIES FUCK YEAH