How is that not twisting a stat? It's the same thing as me saying, well Ruth had a lower ERA over his first 4 seasons than Howard so he is clearly better. You can't even think about comparing Howard to Ruth over their first 4 seasons because they played completely different positions. Saying Howard has more home runs over his first 4 seasons or whatever, is fucking pointless.
Cause its a fact it's not Howards fault is it. A fact about hitting was named regardless of pitchers were included or not. Was Ruth better obviously and that was never said by me or anyone else that i read. To dismiss his numbers are wrong and the shit talking is even worse.
How is that not twisting a stat? It's the same thing as me saying, well Ruth had a lower ERA over his first 4 seasons than Howard so he is clearly better. You can't even think about comparing Howard to Ruth over their first 4 seasons because they played completely different positions. Saying Howard has more home runs over his first 4 seasons or whatever, is fucking pointless.
it its. it's as if people forgot he was a pitcher....then again if you look at howard's first full 4 years and ruth's first 4 full years as a non pitcher, howard has 21 more homers. ruth only played in 110 games in 1922, so it would be about even had he been healthy.
How is that not twisting a stat? It's the same thing as me saying, well Ruth had a lower ERA over his first 4 seasons than Howard so he is clearly better. You can't even think about comparing Howard to Ruth over their first 4 seasons because they played completely different positions. Saying Howard has more home runs over his first 4 seasons or whatever, is fucking pointless.
it its. it's as if people forgot he was a pitcher....then again if you look at howard's first full 4 years and ruth's first 4 full years as a non pitcher, howard has 21 more homers. ruth only played in 110 games in 1922, so it would be about even had he been healthy.
plus ruth played in parks almost twice the size of the banboxes of today
the howard vs ruth debate is the worst thing ever. garbage I'd expect to hear on 610.
How is that not twisting a stat? It's the same thing as me saying, well Ruth had a lower ERA over his first 4 seasons than Howard so he is clearly better. You can't even think about comparing Howard to Ruth over their first 4 seasons because they played completely different positions. Saying Howard has more home runs over his first 4 seasons or whatever, is fucking pointless.
Cause its a fact it's not Howards fault is it. A fact about hitting was named regardless of pitchers were included or not. Was Ruth better obviously and that was never said by me or anyone else that i read. To dismiss his numbers are wrong and the shit talking is even worse.
My head hurts, I don't even know what to say. No, it is not Howards fault that Babe Ruth was originally a pitcher, I will agree with that.
ITS NOT A DEBATE!!!!!!!!!!! FACT RYAN HOWARD IS THE FASTEST PLAYER IN MLB HISTORY TO 200HRS!!!!!!!
FACT BABE RUTH WAS A MUCH BETTER PLAYER THEN HOWARD!!!!!!
How is that not twisting a stat? It's the same thing as me saying, well Ruth had a lower ERA over his first 4 seasons than Howard so he is clearly better. You can't even think about comparing Howard to Ruth over their first 4 seasons because they played completely different positions. Saying Howard has more home runs over his first 4 seasons or whatever, is fucking pointless.
it its. it's as if people forgot he was a pitcher....then again if you look at howard's first full 4 years and ruth's first 4 full years as a non pitcher, howard has 21 more homers. ruth only played in 110 games in 1922, so it would be about even had he been healthy.
plus ruth played in parks almost twice the size of the banboxes of today
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...and not against black dudes. baseball debates are awesome.
by no means am i comparing ruth to howard, but their hr numbers are similiar in that timeframe.
ITS NOT A DEBATE!!!!!!!!!!! FACT RYAN HOWARD IS THE FASTEST PLAYER IN MLB HISTORY TO 200HRS!!!!!!!
FACT BABE RUTH WAS A MUCH BETTER PLAYER THEN HOWARD!!!!!!
ITS NOT A DEBATE!!!!!!!!!!! FACT RYAN HOWARD IS THE FASTEST PLAYER IN MLB HISTORY TO 200HRS!!!!!!!
FACT BABE RUTH WAS A MUCH BETTER PLAYER THEN HOWARD!!!!!!
ITS NOT A DEBATE!!!!!!!!!!! FACT RYAN HOWARD IS THE FASTEST PLAYER IN MLB HISTORY TO 200HRS!!!!!!!
FACT BABE RUTH WAS A MUCH BETTER PLAYER THEN HOWARD!!!!!!
How is that not twisting a stat? It's the same thing as me saying, well Ruth had a lower ERA over his first 4 seasons than Howard so he is clearly better. You can't even think about comparing Howard to Ruth over their first 4 seasons because they played completely different positions. Saying Howard has more home runs over his first 4 seasons or whatever, is fucking pointless.
it its. it's as if people forgot he was a pitcher....then again if you look at howard's first full 4 years and ruth's first 4 full years as a non pitcher, howard has 21 more homers. ruth only played in 110 games in 1922, so it would be about even had he been healthy.
Look at 1919. He started 15 games and pitched to an ERA of about 3 while also having 542 plate appearances. I would think that has a little to do with the fact he only hit 29 home runs, but he did have an average of .322 and and OBP of .456
How is that not twisting a stat? It's the same thing as me saying, well Ruth had a lower ERA over his first 4 seasons than Howard so he is clearly better. You can't even think about comparing Howard to Ruth over their first 4 seasons because they played completely different positions. Saying Howard has more home runs over his first 4 seasons or whatever, is fucking pointless.
it its. it's as if people forgot he was a pitcher....then again if you look at howard's first full 4 years and ruth's first 4 full years as a non pitcher, howard has 21 more homers. ruth only played in 110 games in 1922, so it would be about even had he been healthy.
Look at 1919. He started 15 games and pitched to an ERA of about 3 while also having 542 plate appearances. I would think that has a little to do with the fact he only hit 29 home runs, but he did have an average of .322 and and OBP of .456
Dude, it's some insane advanced statistic all the kids are talking about these days. Get this, its measures how often a batter reaches base. Crazy, I know.
Dude, it's some insane advanced statistic all the kids are talking about these days. Get this, its measures how often a batter reaches base. Crazy, I know.
Crazy isn't it? And if 4 guys reach base in a row, no one's hitting home runs or "knocking them in" and still scoring a run! Crazy!
How is that not twisting a stat? It's the same thing as me saying, well Ruth had a lower ERA over his first 4 seasons than Howard so he is clearly better. You can't even think about comparing Howard to Ruth over their first 4 seasons because they played completely different positions. Saying Howard has more home runs over his first 4 seasons or whatever, is fucking pointless.
it its. it's as if people forgot he was a pitcher....then again if you look at howard's first full 4 years and ruth's first 4 full years as a non pitcher, howard has 21 more homers. ruth only played in 110 games in 1922, so it would be about even had he been healthy.
Look at 1919. He started 15 games and pitched to an ERA of about 3 while also having 542 plate appearances. I would think that has a little to do with the fact he only hit 29 home runs, but he did have an average of .322 and and OBP of .456
okay then take the next 4 years then. he hit 189 hrs. their hr #'s are similiar. not talking about avg and obp obviously.
wanna make it clear that i'm not siding with pjhawks (please god dont think that ) and jamming completely b/c they take this waaay too far. but if your just talking hr totals (and not anything else) for their first four comparable years as full time position players, their numbers are similiar. that's all i'm saying...and it's true.
okay then take the next 4 years then. he hit 189 hrs. their hr #'s are similiar. not talking about avg and obp obviously.
wanna make it clear that i'm not siding with pjhawks (please god dont think that ) and jamming b/c they take this waaay too far. but if your just talking hr totals (and not anything else) for their first four comparable years as full time position players, their numbers are similiar. that's all i'm saying...and it's true.
Fair enough. I would think the number of caveats pretty much states all anyone needs to know.
okay then take the next 4 years then. he hit 189 hrs. their hr #'s are similiar. not talking about avg and obp obviously.
wanna make it clear that i'm not siding with pjhawks (please god dont think that ) and jamming b/c they take this waaay too far. but if your just talking hr totals (and not anything else) for their first four comparable years as full time position players, their numbers are similiar. that's all i'm saying...and it's true.
Fair enough. I would think the number of caveats pretty much states all anyone needs to know.
....aaaand, if everyone in the lineup continuously gets on base, the inning never ends, you rack up runs, and deplete the opponent's pitching staff. Again, crazy stuff, that OBP!
Dude, it's some insane advanced statistic all the kids are talking about these days. Get this, its measures how often a batter reaches base. Crazy, I know.
Crazy isn't it? And if 4 guys reach base in a row, no one's hitting home runs or "knocking them in" and still scoring a run! Crazy!
....aaaand, if everyone in the lineup continuously gets on base, the inning never ends, you rack up runs, and deplete the opponent's pitching staff. Again, crazy stuff, that OBP!
....aaaand, if everyone in the lineup continuously gets on base, the inning never ends, you rack up runs, and deplete the opponent's pitching staff. Again, crazy stuff, that OBP!
That's as good as it's gonna get right there. I have officially LOL'd. Or something.
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haha i was debating about my $ 20 ....its almost time
but yea these goofy philly dudes are way over the top
they really remind me of the fans in major league
Cause its a fact it's not Howards fault is it. A fact about hitting was named regardless of pitchers were included or not. Was Ruth better obviously and that was never said by me or anyone else that i read. To dismiss his numbers are wrong and the shit talking is even worse.
A few of them get pretty worked up over it. I do partake in it quite a bit though.
now, that the *where is snuggleton* thread is pooched - this is the storyline i follow most ...
it its. it's as if people forgot he was a pitcher....then again if you look at howard's first full 4 years and ruth's first 4 full years as a non pitcher, howard has 21 more homers. ruth only played in 110 games in 1922, so it would be about even had he been healthy.
"it's too high..."
"what do you mean, too high?!?!" :x
plus ruth played in parks almost twice the size of the banboxes of today
the howard vs ruth debate is the worst thing ever. garbage I'd expect to hear on 610.
My head hurts, I don't even know what to say. No, it is not Howards fault that Babe Ruth was originally a pitcher, I will agree with that.
FACT BABE RUTH WAS A MUCH BETTER PLAYER THEN HOWARD!!!!!!
...and not against black dudes.
by no means am i comparing ruth to howard, but their hr numbers are similiar in that timeframe.
lets argue about ralph kiner now.
dude....come on man.
.........CAPITAL LETTERS!!!!!
so is your argument...
previously on the phillies thread...
fixer and everyone else argued about ryan howard
then someone brought up babe ruth and everyone went apreshit
jamminpearls came in with all caps to show his frustration
as this was happening 2 yankees fans sat back and commented on how funny this was
someone mentioned ralph kiner ..but that didn't go very far
the juggler got nervous about the caps and said to slow down .....
next week...... once and for all..is howard better than ruth?
will the jeagler jump off a bridge when lannan beats roy?
tune in to find out
Look at 1919. He started 15 games and pitched to an ERA of about 3 while also having 542 plate appearances. I would think that has a little to do with the fact he only hit 29 home runs, but he did have an average of .322 and and OBP of .456
what is this OBP you speak of?
only HRs and RBI matter!!
Dude, it's some insane advanced statistic all the kids are talking about these days. Get this, its measures how often a batter reaches base. Crazy, I know.
actually, there are plenty of ways for a guy to score without being 'knocked in'.
you have it backwards my friend...
Crazy isn't it? And if 4 guys reach base in a row, no one's hitting home runs or "knocking them in" and still scoring a run! Crazy!
okay then take the next 4 years then. he hit 189 hrs. their hr #'s are similiar. not talking about avg and obp obviously.
wanna make it clear that i'm not siding with pjhawks (please god dont think that
Fair enough. I would think the number of caveats pretty much states all anyone needs to know.
Insane, that just blew my mind.
That's as good as it's gonna get right there. I have officially LOL'd. Or something.