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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    he pitched poorly last year and deserved to be critisized....but clearly not the extent you described.

    all in the past though.

    nats up 4-2

    He wasn't as bad as people think he was. His ERA was right around 4. That's not horrible. People act like he was adam eaton last year.

    if people act like he was adam eaton--those people are idiots.

    but he did not pitch up to his potential last year and deserved criticism. his era was 1.3 higher than the year before, he had about 30k less strikeouts, 34 less innings with about the same amount of games pitched. he did walk a little less and gave up 4 less homers......but overall, he's better than that. he proved it in '08 and again this year. god bless him for it. this is the cole we need in the post season.

    let's go win the whole f'ing thing!
    GO PHILS.
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Jeagler wrote:

    if people act like he was adam eaton--those people are idiots.

    but he did not pitch up to his potential last year and deserved criticism. his era was 1.3 higher than the year before, he had about 30k less strikeouts, 34 less innings with about the same amount of games pitched. he did walk a little less and gave up 4 less homers......but overall, he's better than that. he proved it in '08 and again this year. god bless him for it. this is the cole we need in the post season.

    let's go win the whole f'ing thing!
    GO PHILS.

    you know he threw way more innings in 2008 than he ever had in a season right? studies have shown that pitchers that dramatically exceed their previous career high in IPs will have some kind of regression in performance. Hamels is a perfect example of this.

    He was pretty damn good in 2008 (and 2007). I was willing to give him more than a season off of 2008 before I started criticizing the dude. He's still only 26 and he was the main reason they got to and won the WS.
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,195
    everybody hits! :D soon to be 3 game lead in the NL East
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  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Looking good,19 wins for doc in about an hour and change.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    Congrats on another east title

    Braves are done
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Jeagler wrote:

    if people act like he was adam eaton--those people are idiots.

    but he did not pitch up to his potential last year and deserved criticism. his era was 1.3 higher than the year before, he had about 30k less strikeouts, 34 less innings with about the same amount of games pitched. he did walk a little less and gave up 4 less homers......but overall, he's better than that. he proved it in '08 and again this year. god bless him for it. this is the cole we need in the post season.

    let's go win the whole f'ing thing!
    GO PHILS.

    you know he threw way more innings in 2008 than he ever had in a season right? studies have shown that pitchers that dramatically exceed their previous career high in IPs will have some kind of regression in performance. Hamels is a perfect example of this.

    He was pretty damn good in 2008 (and 2007). I was willing to give him more than a season off of 2008 before I started criticizing the dude. He's still only 26 and he was the main reason they got to and won the WS.

    well aware of everything you mentioned. it's common knowledge at this point. and, congrats. cuz you're probably the only phils fan in the world to not criticize him for anything last year. especially after game 3. :roll:

    love the guy. glad he bounced back big time. we needed it.
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    why is lidge in this game??

    this manager does some really really dumb shit
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    The Fixer wrote:
    why is lidge in this game??

    this manager does some really really dumb shit

    What you dont use your closer in a 6 run game ??

    :roll:
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    why is lidge in this game??

    this manager does some really really dumb shit

    What you dont use your closer in a 6 run game ??

    :roll:

    especially since his elbow has been bothering him. and he pitched last night

    fucking stupid
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    The Fixer wrote:
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    why is lidge in this game??

    this manager does some really really dumb shit

    What you dont use your closer in a 6 run game ??

    :roll:

    especially since his elbow has been bothering him. and he pitched last night

    fucking stupid

    I realize they have the day off but come on

    It's a must win but come on
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  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    PHEW !!

    3 games up !!

    :clap::clap:
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    especially since his elbow has been bothering him. and he pitched last night

    fucking stupid

    I realize they have the day off but come on

    It's a must win but come on

    yeah man, like you said, 6 run lead.

    whatever, they won. again. at least he took halladay out before the 7th tonight
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    The Fixer wrote:
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    especially since his elbow has been bothering him. and he pitched last night

    fucking stupid

    I realize they have the day off but come on

    It's a must win but come on

    yeah man, like you said, 6 run lead.

    whatever, they won. again. at least he took halladay out before the 7th tonight

    I hope they get a chance to give Doc a rest at some point
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Phantom Pain wrote:

    I hope they get a chance to give Doc a rest at some point

    yeah, that would be sweet. they are 2 up on cincy right now for the 1 seed in the NL. gotta think that's goal 2, after the division.

    they're sitting pretty right now. next week's braves series is big
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    17-3 in their last 20 road games ?

    Did I hear that right ?

    DAMN!
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    17-3 in their last 20 road games ?

    Did I hear that right ?

    DAMN!

    this team's been on fire since late july. let's keep it going for the next 6-7 weeks :mrgreen:
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  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    jamminpearls wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    Here it is. .643 baseball isn't going to be easy. I don't think they are getting to the playoffs this year, which will really suck ass.

    http://www.philly.com/dailynews/columni ... retch.html
    With everyone back healthy this team can do anything they want. I dont care what articles or experts say,we have the best pitching staff in these last 3yrs this year by far. Are lineup is probably the best or 2nd best in baseball when healthy,which we finially are. Thers's no way inless more injuries occur that we miss the playoffs.
    This guys smart i tell ya,even on august 22nd the future was known.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    jamminpearls wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    Here it is. .643 baseball isn't going to be easy. I don't think they are getting to the playoffs this year, which will really suck ass.

    http://www.philly.com/dailynews/columni ... retch.html
    With everyone back healthy this team can do anything they want. I dont care what articles or experts say,we have the best pitching staff in these last 3yrs this year by far. Are lineup is probably the best or 2nd best in baseball when healthy,which we finially are. Thers's no way inless more injuries occur that we miss the playoffs.
    This guys smart i tell ya,even on august 22nd the future was known.

    yeah...but i was saying it when you were ready to trade jw and call it a season :mrgreen:
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    jamminpearls wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    With everyone back healthy this team can do anything they want. I dont care what articles or experts say,we have the best pitching staff in these last 3yrs this year by far. Are lineup is probably the best or 2nd best in baseball when healthy,which we finially are. Thers's no way inless more injuries occur that we miss the playoffs.
    This guys smart i tell ya,even on august 22nd the future was known.

    Zach Duke

    ERA W-L SO WHIP BAA
    5.78 7-14 89 1.67 .326
  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Ha ha,Werth is the most annoying talented player ever. He's bad at bats make howards look ok imo. The Ny fans will kill him next year for his lapses.
    Go Birds!!!!
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