How to Trick a Christian

Heineken Helen

The Champ wrote:

I thought this thread would be funny,

FOOL!

The Champ

Heineken Helen wrote:

FOOL!

I was expecting a joke, but no..ya'll are a bunch of fucking kill joys as usual..

Stelly

genie wrote:

you missing one big point = as Atheists we don't have to be open minded, it's not written anywhere that we should be open minded, our actions are purely ours. if i choose to do good, i do good things because i want to, and not because i was told to do so.

Atheists don't have to be open mined, but earlier in the thread someone was claiming that atheists are so open mined, and then in the same breath was lumping all Christians in the same bucket of craziness. That's pretty hypocritical.

Don't you think there are Christians who do good things because they want to, not because they are told to? Saying that an entire religion only does good things because they are told to is pretty rediculous. I would argue that most Christians go good things because they want to, regardless of guilt or religion.

genie

Heineken Helen wrote:

well I'd like to believe that if I somehow got kicked out of my house, I'd have somebody to help me out... and yes I would. Some people don't have anybody to help them out though... and when you're in that situation, you're gonna need somebody to help them out. And try renting a room in dublin on a cleaners wage :eek: . If you go for a job interview... with no address, phone number or contact details, why would anyone take ya on?

my answer will be to: lie. lie about address, as for contact number even homeless person can manage to have a phone number.

if one shift job of a cleaner doesn't pay enough money, then take two jobs.

i'm not saying i won't help someone out, and i'm not saying i don't help people in general, i do. but in certain issues i don't.

genie

Heineken Helen wrote:

why?

I believe we've established that extremists in ANY group aren't a whole lot of fun to be around. Not just Christians. I get more mormons and jehovahs witnesses knocking on my door than I do christians... actually not sure I've EVER had a christian knock on my door 'selling' christianity. Try getting rid of the mormons :eek:

true, but i should've cut majority of his/her statement and should've left only this "they act like their shit don't stink"

Heineken Helen

The Champ wrote:

I was expecting a joke, but no..ya'll are a bunch of fucking kill joys as usual..

well tell a fuckin joke then

It's your turn!

genie

Stelly wrote:

Don't you think there are Christians who do good things because they want to, not because they are told to?

i think there are some, and it's my opinion

Rygar

genie wrote:

true, but i should've cut majority of his/her statement and should've left only this "they act like their shit don't stink"

Again, that is hardly limited or specific to Christians.

genie

Heineken Helen wrote:

well tell a fuckin joke then

It's your turn!

i agree on this one

Heineken Helen

genie wrote:

my answer will be to: lie. lie about address, as for contact number even homeless person can manage to have a phone number.

if one shift job of a cleaner doesn't pay enough money, then take two jobs.

i'm not saying i won't help someone out, and i'm not saying i don't help people in general, i do. but in certain issues i don't.

It really does sound so nice and simple doesn't it... that if you want something bad enough you'll get it... have you never hit an emotional bottom though? Which could well happen if you find yourself on the street! It's gonna be pretty hard to motivate yourself :(

Heineken Helen

genie wrote:

true, but i should've cut majority of his/her statement and should've left only this "they act like their shit don't stink"

but in that case, you'd also be referring to allnitething... and I'm sure he wouldn't appreciate you using his post in that way

genie

Rygar wrote:

Again, that is hardly limited or specific to Christians.

well you don't see me saying i'm always good and i always help. presonally i wouldn't have given that guy in original story any money.

so you see when i've got shit, i don't say it doesn't stink. i own up to it.

i consider the guy who didn't give money at first but later joked around and gave some money to the other guy to be a prick. only because he retrieved his judgement and statement when being confronted

genie

Heineken Helen wrote:

It really does sound so nice and simple doesn't it... that if you want something bad enough you'll get it... have you never hit an emotional bottom though? Which could well happen if you find yourself on the street! It's gonna be pretty hard to motivate yourself :(

ok, Helen if something like this happens to me i will tell you if i was motivated or not

AllNiteThing

Drew263 wrote:

You of course realize that goes both ways right?

Of course you do. You're not that small minded.

What is the 'other' way in the both ways? Yes, a lot of non Christians (awfully large subgroup, eh) can be annoyingly self righteously vocal about their beliefs and try to get them passed into law. Unfortunately in this country the Christian right has taken it upon themselves to be the loudest voice and most active. Every other belief, Muslim, Buddhist and especially atheist is routinely marginalized and open for attack in the Christian dominated public.

Of course a person of another religion or belief system can be the same way, and I would hope we would all be critical of them. Christians seem to think only they can have a say and atheists, or others, don't have the same 'moral platform' to stand side by side with them. Thus, they think their shit doesn't stink.

The Champ

Heineken Helen wrote:

well tell a fuckin joke then

It's your turn!

Yeah, because that would really go over well among these depressing kill-joys..

genie

Heineken Helen wrote:

but in that case, you'd also be referring to allnitething... and I'm sure he wouldn't appreciate you using his post in that way

i don't care, if he/she's got something against it, he/she can come and speak to me. but for as long as AllNiteThing is not here, i will use his/her post however i want to, and no one can make me do otherwise

Rygar

The Champ wrote:

Yeah, because that would really go over well among these depressing kill-joys..

All the more reason!

AllNiteThing

Heineken Helen wrote:

And a lot of them don't.

Hence why I was careful to say 'a lot' rather than 'all'.

Heineken Helen wrote:

That's the extreme to ANY group... religious or not.

Agreed. But this thread is about Christian hypocrites, not Buddhist hypocrites or Animist hypocrites, etc etc. Also this countries airwaves seem to be dominated by the Christian right, so they open themselves up to more criticism, IMO.

Heineken Helen

genie wrote:

ok, Helen if something like this happens to me i will tell you if i was motivated or not

hey, I'm not trying to be argumentative or anything... just that I spent ONE night of my life homeless... and it is FAR from fun. I physically CAN'T believe that anyone would CHOOSE to be on the street had there been a better option :(

Heineken Helen

The Champ wrote:

Yeah, because that would really go over well among these depressing kill-joys..

well... I'll laugh

If it's funny :cool: