How to Trick a Christian

Heineken Helen

genie wrote:

true, but i should've cut majority of his/her statement and should've left only this "they act like their shit don't stink"

but in that case, you'd also be referring to allnitething... and I'm sure he wouldn't appreciate you using his post in that way

genie

Rygar wrote:

Again, that is hardly limited or specific to Christians.

well you don't see me saying i'm always good and i always help. presonally i wouldn't have given that guy in original story any money.

so you see when i've got shit, i don't say it doesn't stink. i own up to it.

i consider the guy who didn't give money at first but later joked around and gave some money to the other guy to be a prick. only because he retrieved his judgement and statement when being confronted

genie

Heineken Helen wrote:

It really does sound so nice and simple doesn't it... that if you want something bad enough you'll get it... have you never hit an emotional bottom though? Which could well happen if you find yourself on the street! It's gonna be pretty hard to motivate yourself :(

ok, Helen if something like this happens to me i will tell you if i was motivated or not

AllNiteThing

Drew263 wrote:

You of course realize that goes both ways right?

Of course you do. You're not that small minded.

What is the 'other' way in the both ways? Yes, a lot of non Christians (awfully large subgroup, eh) can be annoyingly self righteously vocal about their beliefs and try to get them passed into law. Unfortunately in this country the Christian right has taken it upon themselves to be the loudest voice and most active. Every other belief, Muslim, Buddhist and especially atheist is routinely marginalized and open for attack in the Christian dominated public.

Of course a person of another religion or belief system can be the same way, and I would hope we would all be critical of them. Christians seem to think only they can have a say and atheists, or others, don't have the same 'moral platform' to stand side by side with them. Thus, they think their shit doesn't stink.

The Champ

Heineken Helen wrote:

well tell a fuckin joke then

It's your turn!

Yeah, because that would really go over well among these depressing kill-joys..

genie

Heineken Helen wrote:

but in that case, you'd also be referring to allnitething... and I'm sure he wouldn't appreciate you using his post in that way

i don't care, if he/she's got something against it, he/she can come and speak to me. but for as long as AllNiteThing is not here, i will use his/her post however i want to, and no one can make me do otherwise

Rygar

The Champ wrote:

Yeah, because that would really go over well among these depressing kill-joys..

All the more reason!

AllNiteThing

Heineken Helen wrote:

And a lot of them don't.

Hence why I was careful to say 'a lot' rather than 'all'.

Heineken Helen wrote:

That's the extreme to ANY group... religious or not.

Agreed. But this thread is about Christian hypocrites, not Buddhist hypocrites or Animist hypocrites, etc etc. Also this countries airwaves seem to be dominated by the Christian right, so they open themselves up to more criticism, IMO.

Heineken Helen

genie wrote:

ok, Helen if something like this happens to me i will tell you if i was motivated or not

hey, I'm not trying to be argumentative or anything... just that I spent ONE night of my life homeless... and it is FAR from fun. I physically CAN'T believe that anyone would CHOOSE to be on the street had there been a better option :(

Heineken Helen

The Champ wrote:

Yeah, because that would really go over well among these depressing kill-joys..

well... I'll laugh

If it's funny :cool:

Heineken Helen

AllNiteThing wrote:

Hence why I was careful to say 'a lot' rather than 'all'.



Agreed. But this thread is about Christian hypocrites, not Buddhist hypocrites or Animist hypocrites, etc etc. Also this countries airwaves seem to be dominated by the Christian right, so they open themselves up to more criticism, IMO.

So because your airwaves are dominated by assholes who CALL themselves christians, it's ok to group the rest of them, who probably ARE living nice simple helpful lives, into the same group?

AllNiteThing

Heineken Helen wrote:

do you really think people WANT to be homeless? :(

Actually, there are many people who prefer the homeless lifestyle than a minimum wage (or higher) one. Of course, everyone wants to be rich, but there are many people who have adapted a self sufficient and (in their mind) fulfilling life. Of course, this likely doesn't apply to those sleeping on the sidewalk in their piss, but don't assume ALL homeless are unhappy with their situation. Just saying.

genie

Heineken Helen wrote:

hey, I'm not trying to be argumentative or anything... just that I spent ONE night of my life homeless... and it is FAR from fun. I physically CAN'T believe that anyone would CHOOSE to be on the street had there been a better option :(

ok, but you're living well now aren't you? got a place to live have an amazing job where you have a chance to spend all day in message pit.

btw, my boyfriend is a living proof of being able to get into a better position by working hard. he came here and he was homeless, didn't have a job, and i would assume his English was not as good as it is right now.

AllNiteThing

Heineken Helen wrote:

but in that case, you'd also be referring to allnitething... and I'm sure he wouldn't appreciate you using his post in that way

He/she wouldn't mind.

genie

AllNiteThing wrote:

Actually, there are many people who prefer the homeless lifestyle than a minimum wage (or higher) one. Of course, everyone wants to be rich, but there are many people who have adapted a self sufficient and (in their mind) fulfilling life. Of course, this likely doesn't apply to those sleeping on the sidewalk in their piss, but don't assume ALL homeless are unhappy with their situation. Just saying.

yep, and i'm just going to add that my ex'es relative preffered to be homeless or having little amount of money ( i don't know the full story ) all i know is that he liked it and he considered himself to be free.

genie

AllNiteThing wrote:

He/she wouldn't mind.

yep, it would've been easier for me to write if i knew whether you are male or female.

Danimal

genie wrote:

ok, but you're living well now aren't you? got a place to live have an amazing job where you have a chance to spend all day in message pit.

btw, my boyfriend is a living proof of being able to get into a better position by working hard. he came here and he was homeless, didn't have a job, and i would assume his English was not as good as it is right now.

You date a homeless dude?

AllNiteThing

genie wrote:

i don't care, if he/she's got something against it, he/she can come and speak to me. but for as long as AllNiteThing is not here, i will use his/her post however i want to, and no one can make me do otherwise

You can use my post however you want, just don't misquote me or insinuate I'm a hermaphrodite.

Heineken Helen

AllNiteThing wrote:

Actually, there are many people who prefer the homeless lifestyle than a minimum wage (or higher) one. Of course, everyone wants to be rich, but there are many people who have adapted a self sufficient and (in their mind) fulfilling life. Of course, this likely doesn't apply to those sleeping on the sidewalk in their piss, but don't assume ALL homeless are unhappy with their situation. Just saying.

I don't assume ALL of them are unhappy... neither do I assume all of them are happy with it either... and neither do I assume that they're all just too bloody lazy to do anything about it. And not everybody wants to be rich either!

genie

Danimal wrote:

You date a homeless dude?

he was homeless, now he's not. but one of my friends is homeless.....well he lives in a shelter for homeless people

Heineken Helen

genie wrote:

ok, but you're living well now aren't you? got a place to live have an amazing job where you have a chance to spend all day in message pit.

btw, my boyfriend is a living proof of being able to get into a better position by working hard. he came here and he was homeless, didn't have a job, and i would assume his English was not as good as it is right now.

Yes, I'm living ok... I was homeless cos I locked myself out. I had to try and sleep in a bus shelter on the coldest night of the year until I found somebodys garage and some carpet to keep me warmISH. The following day, I got hold of my sister and it was all ok... it's not like I had to go to the job agency and the housing people whilst trying to find a hostel every night also and find money to feed myself with.

How homeless? Was he sleeping on the street?

genie

AllNiteThing wrote:

You can use my post however you want, just don't misquote me or insinuate I'm a hermaphrodite.

yes...........erm Sir/Madam

Heineken Helen

genie wrote:

yep, and i'm just going to add that my ex'es relative preffered to be homeless or having little amount of money ( i don't know the full story ) all i know is that he liked it and he considered himself to be free.

you DON'T know the full story. Exactly! There are actually some reasons people prefer to be homeless... some of them were sexually, physically or mentally abused at home.

AllNiteThing

Heineken Helen wrote:

So because your airwaves are dominated by assholes who CALL themselves christians, it's ok to group the rest of them, who probably ARE living nice simple helpful lives, into the same group?

Whoa, whoa...who said anything about ALL??? I've been very careful not to lump whole groups in together. I know very well that you can't stereotype whole subsets of people.

AllNiteThing

genie wrote:

yep, it would've been easier for me to write if i knew whether you are male or female.

lol chill...I was just making a joke.

Heineken Helen

AllNiteThing wrote:

Whoa, whoa...who said anything about ALL??? I've been very careful not to lump whole groups in together. I know very well that you can't stereotype whole subsets of people.

You do? good for you.

AllNiteThing

Heineken Helen wrote:

I don't assume ALL of them are unhappy... neither do I assume all of them are happy with it either... and neither do I assume that they're all just too bloody lazy to do anything about it. And not everybody wants to be rich either!

Doesn't it suck when people generalize your posts? Sorry, couldn't resist.

genie

Heineken Helen wrote:

Yes, I'm living ok... I was homeless cos I locked myself out. I had to try and sleep in a bus shelter on the coldest night of the year until I found somebodys garage and some carpet to keep me warmISH. The following day, I got hold of my sister and it was all ok... it's not like I had to go to the job agency and the housing people whilst trying to find a hostel every night also and find money to feed myself with.

How homeless? Was he sleeping on the street?

well i don't know when he came over to UK he didn't know anyone and didn't have a job for a while, and his money savings would've been quite low ( next time i see him i will ask for sure )......after a while he found a friend who helped him by letting him stay in his mother's house.

AllNiteThing

Heineken Helen wrote:

You do? good for you.

Don't use that smarmy tone with me.

genie

AllNiteThing wrote:

lol chill...I was just making a joke.

and i liked your joke i'm chilled