I was at the game on Sunday night. That was awesome.
We should've got smoked last night. That was just a bad showing by LA. How do you leave that many men on base and have that many hits and not score? Wow. But, it's all good. Tough stretch comin up.
Yeah, I'm heading down tonight to watch the old man pitch... Sunday must have been a good time!
Clay Condrey made me nervous yet again, even with a 5-run lead, I'm not comfortable with him in the game.
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Yeah, I'm heading down tonight to watch the old man pitch... Sunday must have been a good time!
Clay Condrey made me nervous yet again, even with a 5-run lead, I'm not comfortable with him in the game.
Him or Madson are terrible. They're only good as mop-up men with leads or deficits of 7 or better. Every time Madson comes in with a 1 or 2 run lead he blows it. Actually, and I hate to say it, but Romero & Durbin have looked a little shaky lately.
But yeah, Moyer's awesome. I hope he pitches for another 10 years.
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wow. coming back from 7-0, after what happened last year. That's unbelievable. Unbelievable win. go get em tomorrow. If my Yankees fall any farther out of it, rooting against the Mets will be all I have
Normally I don't single out players, but Pat Burrell has been beyond atrocious the last two games. 0/12 with 19 left on base.
So does that make him the A-Rod of Philadelphia....
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Wow, can't believe we pulled that one out!! Its like last September all over again. Great job by the bullpen only giving up 1 run over 9 innings!!! Coste 4 for 4 off the bench!! Let's ride the momentum into tonight against Santana...
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"The other team gives you some inspiration, let’s put it that way. (J)ust watch ’em,” Rollins said. “If you were a player and you’re looking over in that other dugout, you’ll feel a certain type of way. Rewind the game. Just watch the game.”
This quote almost redeems J-Roll for calling us front runners... Tatis' 3rd inning HR shouldn't have even happened, Beltran was inside the foul-line when that ball hit him, should have been a double play. Makes this win that much sweeter...
Hopefully Jimmy continues his hot streak down the stretch...
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"The other team gives you some inspiration, let’s put it that way. (J)ust watch ’em,” Rollins said. “If you were a player and you’re looking over in that other dugout, you’ll feel a certain type of way. Rewind the game. Just watch the game.”
This quote almost redeems J-Roll for calling us front runners... Tatis' 3rd inning HR shouldn't have even happened, Beltran was inside the foul-line when that ball hit him, should have been a double play. Makes this win that much sweeter...
Hopefully Jimmy continues his hot streak down the stretch...
You are right, the HR shouldn't have happened but it would not have been a double play. Beltran would have been out and Tatis would have been awarded 1st base... they still won though so none of that matters.
On Burrell, yes he's been horrible lately but I'll take it as long as it doesn't extend much longer. He's basically been the most consistent Phil all year so a slump right now, as long as it is brief, doesn't bother me too much.
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What makes this win even sweeter is the way Martinez acted like a little bitch after the game crying foul about the ballpark and calling it a band box. As if that was the reason for the NINETEEN HITS. And didn't seem like he was crying when Easley and Tatis jacked the ball out of the park and had a SEVEN RUN LEAD!! HAHA!!
Also, I wish Kendrick got into the game last night. That would've meant Hamels would've pitched tonight. How bout Ruiz at 3rd???
You are right, the HR shouldn't have happened but it would not have been a double play. Beltran would have been out and Tatis would have been awarded 1st base... they still won though so none of that matters.
On Burrell, yes he's been horrible lately but I'll take it as long as it doesn't extend much longer. He's basically been the most consistent Phil all year so a slump right now, as long as it is brief, doesn't bother me too much.
I just had a feeling Tatis was going to jack one after they called that foul.
I agree on Burrell, it was frustrating last night, but he's actually been one of the more consistent bats this year. (never thought I'd say that)
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The whole time I was thinking, "please don't let this come back to bite them in the ass!", and it didn't. Turned out to be a great move with Bruntlett's clutch pinch hit!!!
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Also, I wish Kendrick got into the game last night. That would've meant Hamels would've pitched tonight. How bout Ruiz at 3rd???
I still don't understand that move about Ruiz at 3rd. Why play him there who has never played that position in his professional career? Whereupon, you have Coste who was the starting 3B in 2005 at Scranton the year before the Phillies called him up. He only moved to catcher in the majors because of injuries to the Phils catchers and was originally brought up to be an extra bat on the bench and a backup 1st and 3rd basemen.
The Phils won and I'm glad they're back in first, but Manuel will never be a good game strategist.
Example, after Coste hit the double in the 10th, Rollins should have bunted him over to 3rd. The Mets then would have walked Utley and Burrell and that smash Howard hit that Delgado stuck out his glove and luckily came to him would have been the game winning single. Instead Rollins swung away and popped out, Utley walked, Burrell struck out and Howard hit that groundball smash. That forced the game to go longer and wear out their bullpen more. I can't remember the last time a manager didn't bunt a runner over to third in extra innings with a guy who can bunt at the plate.
The whole time I was thinking, "please don't let this come back to bite them in the ass!", and it didn't. Turned out to be a great move with Bruntlett's clutch pinch hit!!!
I still don't understand that move about Ruiz at 3rd. Why play him there who has never played that position in his professional career? Whereupon, you have Coste who was the starting 3B in 2005 at Scranton the year before the Phillies called him up. He only moved to catcher in the majors because of injuries to the Phils catchers and was originally brought up to be an extra bat on the bench and a backup 1st and 3rd basemen.
The Phils won and I'm glad they're back in first, but Manuel will never be a good game strategist.
Example, after Coste hit the double in the 10th, Rollins should have bunted him over to 3rd. The Mets then would have walked Utley and Burrell and that smash Howard hit that Delgado stuck out his glove and luckily came to him would have been the game winning single. Instead Rollins swung away and popped out, Utley walked, Burrell struck out and Howard hit that groundball smash. That forced the game to go longer and wear out their bullpen more. I can't remember the last time a manager didn't bunt a runner over to third in extra innings with a guy who can bunt at the plate.
Ruiz did play the infield. The Phils converted him to catcher when they drafted him from one of those Latin leagues. Granted I was a little nervous, but I actually wanted Ruiz to snag some kind of grounder and turned a double play - how great would that have been?? Manuel made very good moves last night I think. If he doesn't make that move then you waste another pinch hitter instead of moving the pitchers spot all the way to the back of the lineup. How bout sending Myers up to purposely take an out(he STILL almost walked) instead of risking a double play at home??? Just a crazy game last night.
Ruiz did play the infield. The Phils converted him to catcher when they drafted him from one of those Latin leagues. Granted I was a little nervous, but I actually wanted Ruiz to snag some kind of grounder and turned a double play - how great would that have been?? Manuel made very good moves last night I think. If he doesn't make that move then you waste another pinch hitter instead of moving the pitchers spot all the way to the back of the lineup. How bout sending Myers up to purposely take an out(he STILL almost walked) instead of risking a double play at home??? Just a crazy game last night.
Ruiz since being in the Phillies system in 2003 has played first base twice and caught ever other game. As recently as last year, Coste played a few games at 3rd base in the minors. Wouldn't it have been smarter to play a guy who at least has played 3rd base part time and and fulltime in AAA since 2000 than a guy who hasn't played the infield in 6 years?
Ruiz since being in the Phillies system in 2003 has played first base twice and caught ever other game. As recently as last year, Coste played a few games at 3rd base in the minors. Wouldn't it have been smarter to play a guy who at least has played 3rd base part time and and fulltime in AAA since 2000 than a guy who hasn't played the infield in 6 years?
Maybe, but they were saying Ruiz takes grounders before every game in the infield. Plus, who do you want batting out of the catcher position late in the game? I.E. Coste winning it. All I can say is people don't give Manuel enough credit. He's not as dumb as he looks, and I think too many people get sucked into his "Mayberry" look. I guess it makes for good rants by WT idiots on WIP when the Phils fuck up.
Maybe, but they were saying Ruiz takes grounders before every game in the infield. Plus, who do you want batting out of the catcher position late in the game? I.E. Coste winning it. All I can say is people don't give Manuel enough credit. He's not as dumb as he looks, and I think too many people get sucked into his "Mayberry" look. I guess it makes for good rants by WT idiots on WIP when the Phils fuck up.
No, I agree Cote is a much better hitter. But if you are going for an emergency for one inning, you put Coste at 3rd and then take Ruiz out and move Coste to catcher.
The point is moot as the Phils won.
It's much better to be nit picking after a win than to be cursing them out after a loss.
I don't think Manuel is as bad as people say, but he just makes some questionable decisions. Like I was at the game on Monday and with a 5-0 lead he brought in Romero. And he had to use him last night later than he would have had he been fresh. Now Romero has pitched in 3 straight games and probably can't pitch today. These are the little decisions that Manuel isn't the best with, but overall I think he's a pretty good manager.
Yeah, I mean it's all debatable. But I believe you play to win today not tomorrow. But, on that note, I hope there's an outside chance Cole pitches tonight.
Example, after Coste hit the double in the 10th, Rollins should have bunted him over to 3rd. The Mets then would have walked Utley and Burrell and that smash Howard hit that Delgado stuck out his glove and luckily came to him would have been the game winning single. Instead Rollins swung away and popped out, Utley walked, Burrell struck out and Howard hit that groundball smash. That forced the game to go longer and wear out their bullpen more. I can't remember the last time a manager didn't bunt a runner over to third in extra innings with a guy who can bunt at the plate.
Hey Uncle Charlie learned from this mistake during the game.. i.e. bringing in Myers to be a cardboard cutout and watch pitches fly by one by one so as not to ground into a double play and kill the inning
And I never understand the whole "our best pitcher should pitch against the other teams best pitcher" argument during the regular season. These games are nice to win but are not the end all be all to get into the playoffs, now the playoffs are a totally different story.
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Hey Uncle Charlie learned from this mistake during the game.. i.e. bringing in Myers to be a cardboard cutout and watch pitches fly by one by one so as not to ground into a double play and kill the inning
The thing is if you're going to bring Myers in to look at pitches, why not leave Rudy out there. Could you imagine the Rudy, Rudy, Rudy chant echoing from the Bank?
The thing is if you're going to bring Myers in to look at pitches, why not leave Rudy out there. Could you imagine the Rudy, Rudy, Rudy chant echoing from the Bank?
Well they didn't want the Mets thinking that Myers was up there to look at pitches, with Rudy you'd know exactly what was going on. Although once I saw Myers coming out and not Hamels I knew he wasn't swinging at anything.
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Well they didn't want the Mets thinking that Myers was up there to look at pitches, with Rudy you'd know exactly what was going on. Although once I saw Myers coming out and not Hamels I knew he wasn't swinging at anything.
I know. I was only kidding. but when will you ever see a guy who's 2/44 ever pinch it again ... lol.
Yeah, I mean it's all debatable. But I believe you play to win today not tomorrow. But, on that note, I hope there's an outside chance Cole pitches tonight.
I'd actually rather have Hamels start out the Cubbies' series. We got a tough weekend ahead of us, and I think it'd be wrong to not have Hamel's pitch that series.
Besides, as long as Kendrick keeps us close, we know we're going to win unless Santana pitches a complete game.
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I'd actually rather have Hamels start out the Cubbies' series. We got a tough weekend ahead of us, and I think it'd be wrong to not have Hamel's pitch that series.
Besides, as long as Kendrick keeps us close, we know we're going to win unless Santana pitches a complete game.
This is true, but if history is any pretense then I see Santana repeating his performance of his past 2-3 starts against the Phils. And that's nasty. Unless this Philly lineup is for whatever reason about to burst, which would be perfect. Kendrick's gotta keep it low and in the strike zone. Except to Delgado - high and in the strike zone.
Maybe, but they were saying Ruiz takes grounders before every game in the infield. Plus, who do you want batting out of the catcher position late in the game? I.E. Coste winning it. All I can say is people don't give Manuel enough credit. He's not as dumb as he looks, and I think too many people get sucked into his "Mayberry" look. I guess it makes for good rants by WT idiots on WIP when the Phils fuck up.
I'm no WIP idiot and I think Charlie is a moron. Let's not pat him on the backj too much - what has he done here? Won one division title that was pretty much gift-wrapped by the biggest collapse in baseball history and has never won a playoff game. If they don't win this division this year it's a disgrace. This Mets team sucks right now. And even though this season's failures fall on Rollins, Utley and Howard the most the Charlie apologists all say how he helped them have great years in the past because of his patience. Well if ole Charlie was given credit for their successes shouldn't he be ripped for their failures? Charlie is a player's manager the all say - well if he is such a player's manager how come Rollins has crapped on him this year? And kudos to the guy above talking about how Charlie used Romero 3 straight days and now he won't be available. Charlie routinely wears out relivers in this manner. Frankly I think this team has been underachieving the past few years. This team has serious talent and yet is only going to win around 90 games again this year.
I'm no WIP idiot and I think Charlie is a moron. Let's not pat him on the backj too much - what has he done here? Won one division title that was pretty much gift-wrapped by the biggest collapse in baseball history and has never won a playoff game. If they don't win this division this year it's a disgrace. This Mets team sucks right now. And even though this season's failures fall on Rollins, Utley and Howard the most the Charlie apologists all say how he helped them have great years in the past because of his patience. Well if ole Charlie was given credit for their successes shouldn't he be ripped for their failures? Charlie is a player's manager the all say - well if he is such a player's manager how come Rollins has crapped on him this year? And kudos to the guy above talking about how Charlie used Romero 3 straight days and now he won't be available. Charlie routinely wears out relivers in this manner. Frankly I think this team has been underachieving the past few years. This team has serious talent and yet is only going to win around 90 games again this year.
Rollins crapped on him because he's pissed that (up until the past few days) he totally blows ass this year. And I'm sure you know what he did about that(benching him), and he got all over Myers when he disrespected him. I.E. Moyer sticking up for Manuel's decisions. By the way, a coach can show a player what to do, but can't make it happen. And I wouldn't say Manuel's the reason Rollins, Utley, Howard, Burrell are who they are. They aren't products of Manuel's instruction as far as who they are today. I'm sure he had something to do with it, but their not the players they are solely because of Manuel. Managers at best cost you 5-10 games a year win or lose. Charlie's a fine manager - not great or terrible. Just a good manager. He's not Torre or LaRussa, but he's also not McClendon or Pena. This stuff lies on the players. The pitching is the best it's been in a long time and you can't make a hitter get out of his slump. It's up to the player alone. All I know is his decisions last night put them in a spot to win and that's all that matters. If you think this is a 100 win team you are seriously mistaken. A rotation that began with Hamels, Myers, Eaton, Kendrick & Moyer is nothing more than average. The entire pitching staff has overachieved (3rd best ERA in the NL - when was the last time you could say that?). "Another 90 win season" - you should be grateful for that. There is no way in hell this team is a 100 win team. Not until they get some more speed, another SOLID 1/2 pitcher and another proven hit-for-average batter. The playoffs all come down to who's hot at the time, and that's all. ANYONE can win in the playoffs as long as you're not a downright awful team like KC, Wash, etc. Wow. Haha, I'm surprised you didn't use "Uncle Charlie", then you definitely would've sounded like some dude who calls WIP.
Rollins crapped on him because he's pissed that (up until the past few days) he totally blows ass this year. And I'm sure you know what he did about that(benching him), and he got all over Myers when he disrespected him. I.E. Moyer sticking up for Manuel's decisions. By the way, a coach can show a player what to do, but can't make it happen. And I wouldn't say Manuel's the reason Rollins, Utley, Howard, Burrell are who they are. They aren't products of Manuel's instruction as far as who they are today. I'm sure he had something to do with it, but their not the players they are solely because of Manuel. Managers at best cost you 5-10 games a year win or lose. Charlie's a fine manager - not great or terrible. Just a good manager. He's not Torre or LaRussa, but he's also not McClendon or Pena. This stuff lies on the players. The pitching is the best it's been in a long time and you can't make a hitter get out of his slump. It's up to the player alone. All I know is his decisions last night put them in a spot to win and that's all that matters. If you think this is a 100 win team you are seriously mistaken. A rotation that began with Hamels, Myers, Eaton, Kendrick & Moyer is nothing more than average. The entire pitching staff has overachieved (3rd best ERA in the NL - when was the last time you could say that?). "Another 90 win season" - you should be grateful for that. There is no way in hell this team is a 100 win team. Not until they get some more speed, another SOLID 1/2 pitcher and another proven hit-for-average batter. The playoffs all come down to who's hot at the time, and that's all. ANYONE can win in the playoffs as long as you're not a downright awful team like KC, Wash, etc. Wow. Haha, I'm surprised you didn't use "Uncle Charlie", then you definitely would've sounded like some dude who calls WIP.
I never said this was a hundred win team - but it sure as shit should win more than 90. This team has a hell of a lot more talent than a lot of teams including the Mets. I'd argue other than the Cubs they have the most talent in the National League. Say what you want about the pitching but they have a top of the rotation stud (most 7+ innings appearances in baseball this year) and a superior closer. and 5-10 wins a year by a manager that you refer to takes you into the 95 range that I am referring too.
I do totally agree with you on being hot in the playoffs. It's all a matter of being hot at the right time. If this team does make it they have a chance to win becuase they have guys that can personally carry the team for a week or two and that is all it takes.
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Yeah, I'm heading down tonight to watch the old man pitch... Sunday must have been a good time!
Clay Condrey made me nervous yet again, even with a 5-run lead, I'm not comfortable with him in the game.
Him or Madson are terrible. They're only good as mop-up men with leads or deficits of 7 or better. Every time Madson comes in with a 1 or 2 run lead he blows it. Actually, and I hate to say it, but Romero & Durbin have looked a little shaky lately.
But yeah, Moyer's awesome. I hope he pitches for another 10 years.
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This quote almost redeems J-Roll for calling us front runners... Tatis' 3rd inning HR shouldn't have even happened, Beltran was inside the foul-line when that ball hit him, should have been a double play. Makes this win that much sweeter...
Hopefully Jimmy continues his hot streak down the stretch...
You are right, the HR shouldn't have happened but it would not have been a double play. Beltran would have been out and Tatis would have been awarded 1st base... they still won though so none of that matters.
On Burrell, yes he's been horrible lately but I'll take it as long as it doesn't extend much longer. He's basically been the most consistent Phil all year so a slump right now, as long as it is brief, doesn't bother me too much.
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Also, I wish Kendrick got into the game last night. That would've meant Hamels would've pitched tonight. How bout Ruiz at 3rd???
I just had a feeling Tatis was going to jack one after they called that foul.
I agree on Burrell, it was frustrating last night, but he's actually been one of the more consistent bats this year. (never thought I'd say that)
The whole time I was thinking, "please don't let this come back to bite them in the ass!", and it didn't. Turned out to be a great move with Bruntlett's clutch pinch hit!!!
I still don't understand that move about Ruiz at 3rd. Why play him there who has never played that position in his professional career? Whereupon, you have Coste who was the starting 3B in 2005 at Scranton the year before the Phillies called him up. He only moved to catcher in the majors because of injuries to the Phils catchers and was originally brought up to be an extra bat on the bench and a backup 1st and 3rd basemen.
The Phils won and I'm glad they're back in first, but Manuel will never be a good game strategist.
Example, after Coste hit the double in the 10th, Rollins should have bunted him over to 3rd. The Mets then would have walked Utley and Burrell and that smash Howard hit that Delgado stuck out his glove and luckily came to him would have been the game winning single. Instead Rollins swung away and popped out, Utley walked, Burrell struck out and Howard hit that groundball smash. That forced the game to go longer and wear out their bullpen more. I can't remember the last time a manager didn't bunt a runner over to third in extra innings with a guy who can bunt at the plate.
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HUGE move.
Ruiz did play the infield. The Phils converted him to catcher when they drafted him from one of those Latin leagues. Granted I was a little nervous, but I actually wanted Ruiz to snag some kind of grounder and turned a double play - how great would that have been?? Manuel made very good moves last night I think. If he doesn't make that move then you waste another pinch hitter instead of moving the pitchers spot all the way to the back of the lineup. How bout sending Myers up to purposely take an out(he STILL almost walked) instead of risking a double play at home??? Just a crazy game last night.
Ruiz since being in the Phillies system in 2003 has played first base twice and caught ever other game. As recently as last year, Coste played a few games at 3rd base in the minors. Wouldn't it have been smarter to play a guy who at least has played 3rd base part time and and fulltime in AAA since 2000 than a guy who hasn't played the infield in 6 years?
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Maybe, but they were saying Ruiz takes grounders before every game in the infield. Plus, who do you want batting out of the catcher position late in the game? I.E. Coste winning it. All I can say is people don't give Manuel enough credit. He's not as dumb as he looks, and I think too many people get sucked into his "Mayberry" look. I guess it makes for good rants by WT idiots on WIP when the Phils fuck up.
No, I agree Cote is a much better hitter. But if you are going for an emergency for one inning, you put Coste at 3rd and then take Ruiz out and move Coste to catcher.
The point is moot as the Phils won.
It's much better to be nit picking after a win than to be cursing them out after a loss.
I don't think Manuel is as bad as people say, but he just makes some questionable decisions. Like I was at the game on Monday and with a 5-0 lead he brought in Romero. And he had to use him last night later than he would have had he been fresh. Now Romero has pitched in 3 straight games and probably can't pitch today. These are the little decisions that Manuel isn't the best with, but overall I think he's a pretty good manager.
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Hey Uncle Charlie learned from this mistake during the game.. i.e. bringing in Myers to be a cardboard cutout and watch pitches fly by one by one so as not to ground into a double play and kill the inning
And I never understand the whole "our best pitcher should pitch against the other teams best pitcher" argument during the regular season. These games are nice to win but are not the end all be all to get into the playoffs, now the playoffs are a totally different story.
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The thing is if you're going to bring Myers in to look at pitches, why not leave Rudy out there. Could you imagine the Rudy, Rudy, Rudy chant echoing from the Bank?
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Well they didn't want the Mets thinking that Myers was up there to look at pitches, with Rudy you'd know exactly what was going on. Although once I saw Myers coming out and not Hamels I knew he wasn't swinging at anything.
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I know. I was only kidding. but when will you ever see a guy who's 2/44 ever pinch it again ... lol.
Hamels had already pinch hit at that point.
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That's right.... and yeah the Rudy chant would have been unbelievable.
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I'd actually rather have Hamels start out the Cubbies' series. We got a tough weekend ahead of us, and I think it'd be wrong to not have Hamel's pitch that series.
Besides, as long as Kendrick keeps us close, we know we're going to win unless Santana pitches a complete game.
This is true, but if history is any pretense then I see Santana repeating his performance of his past 2-3 starts against the Phils. And that's nasty. Unless this Philly lineup is for whatever reason about to burst, which would be perfect. Kendrick's gotta keep it low and in the strike zone. Except to Delgado - high and in the strike zone.
I'm no WIP idiot and I think Charlie is a moron. Let's not pat him on the backj too much - what has he done here? Won one division title that was pretty much gift-wrapped by the biggest collapse in baseball history and has never won a playoff game. If they don't win this division this year it's a disgrace. This Mets team sucks right now. And even though this season's failures fall on Rollins, Utley and Howard the most the Charlie apologists all say how he helped them have great years in the past because of his patience. Well if ole Charlie was given credit for their successes shouldn't he be ripped for their failures? Charlie is a player's manager the all say - well if he is such a player's manager how come Rollins has crapped on him this year? And kudos to the guy above talking about how Charlie used Romero 3 straight days and now he won't be available. Charlie routinely wears out relivers in this manner. Frankly I think this team has been underachieving the past few years. This team has serious talent and yet is only going to win around 90 games again this year.
Rollins crapped on him because he's pissed that (up until the past few days) he totally blows ass this year. And I'm sure you know what he did about that(benching him), and he got all over Myers when he disrespected him. I.E. Moyer sticking up for Manuel's decisions. By the way, a coach can show a player what to do, but can't make it happen. And I wouldn't say Manuel's the reason Rollins, Utley, Howard, Burrell are who they are. They aren't products of Manuel's instruction as far as who they are today. I'm sure he had something to do with it, but their not the players they are solely because of Manuel. Managers at best cost you 5-10 games a year win or lose. Charlie's a fine manager - not great or terrible. Just a good manager. He's not Torre or LaRussa, but he's also not McClendon or Pena. This stuff lies on the players. The pitching is the best it's been in a long time and you can't make a hitter get out of his slump. It's up to the player alone. All I know is his decisions last night put them in a spot to win and that's all that matters. If you think this is a 100 win team you are seriously mistaken. A rotation that began with Hamels, Myers, Eaton, Kendrick & Moyer is nothing more than average. The entire pitching staff has overachieved (3rd best ERA in the NL - when was the last time you could say that?). "Another 90 win season" - you should be grateful for that. There is no way in hell this team is a 100 win team. Not until they get some more speed, another SOLID 1/2 pitcher and another proven hit-for-average batter. The playoffs all come down to who's hot at the time, and that's all. ANYONE can win in the playoffs as long as you're not a downright awful team like KC, Wash, etc. Wow. Haha, I'm surprised you didn't use "Uncle Charlie", then you definitely would've sounded like some dude who calls WIP.
I never said this was a hundred win team - but it sure as shit should win more than 90. This team has a hell of a lot more talent than a lot of teams including the Mets. I'd argue other than the Cubs they have the most talent in the National League. Say what you want about the pitching but they have a top of the rotation stud (most 7+ innings appearances in baseball this year) and a superior closer. and 5-10 wins a year by a manager that you refer to takes you into the 95 range that I am referring too.
I do totally agree with you on being hot in the playoffs. It's all a matter of being hot at the right time. If this team does make it they have a chance to win becuase they have guys that can personally carry the team for a week or two and that is all it takes.