Soldier Throws Dog Of Cliff

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  • PJ_Saluki
    PJ_Saluki Posts: 1,006
    AllNiteThing wrote:
    AT LEAST it wasn't a 'baby'???? It was a baby!!! A baby dog for Christ's sake. I never get this mentality that humans are somehow above all other animals. I get that most of humanity thinks this way and that it is ingrained in us (and all animals) to value the life of your own, for survival purposes, over that of other animals. But I would would hope that we've become enlightened enough to value all life equally, regardless of species. Unfortunately that's not the case, and that's why we see so much animal cruelty in the world. They are treated as objects or lower life forms. :mad: :mad: sick.

    Puh-leeeze. The only reason any gives a shit is because it was a cuddly, little puppy. If it would have been a rat or a snake or a scorpion, nobody would be crying. And yes, you're right, I DO value human life over that of an animal. I eat meat; I wear leather; I step on bugs; and, I'm totally OK with it. When a dog can create art, cure diseases, or do any of the hundreds, if not thousands, of things a person can do, then I'll go ahead and give them equal footing with humans. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't think cruelly offing animals for no good reason is cool. It's fucking disgusting. But, don't give me this "valuing all life" stuff. Human life is more valuable than the life of a dog, even if all life has something that makes it worth respecting.
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  • Nothingman54
    Nothingman54 Posts: 2,251
    PJ_Saluki wrote:
    Puh-leeeze. The only reason any gives a shit is because it was a cuddly, little puppy. If it would have been a rat or a snake or a scorpion, nobody would be crying. And yes, you're right, I DO value human life over that of an animal. I eat meat; I wear leather; I step on bugs; and, I'm totally OK with it. When a dog can create art, cure diseases, or do any of the hundreds, if not thousands, of things a person can do, then I'll go ahead and give them equal footing with humans. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't think cruelly offing animals for no good reason is cool. It's fucking disgusting. But, don't give me this "valuing all life" stuff. Human life is more valuable than the life of a dog, even if all life has something that makes it worth respecting.


    Life is life. Mine life is no more valuable than a dog. But besides that, what kind of fucked up person would do that? Thats a fucked up thing to do. I hope that guy is laying in Arlington Cemetery.
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  • AllNiteThing
    AllNiteThing Posts: 1,115
    PJ_Saluki wrote:
    Puh-leeeze. The only reason any gives a shit is because it was a cuddly, little puppy. If it would have been a rat or a snake or a scorpion, nobody would be crying. And yes, you're right, I DO value human life over that of an animal. I eat meat; I wear leather; I step on bugs; and, I'm totally OK with it. When a dog can create art, cure diseases, or do any of the hundreds, if not thousands, of things a person can do, then I'll go ahead and give them equal footing with humans. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't think cruelly offing animals for no good reason is cool. It's fucking disgusting. But, don't give me this "valuing all life" stuff. Human life is more valuable than the life of a dog, even if all life has something that makes it worth respecting.


    Well that's the difference between you and me. I DO value the life of rats, snakes and scorpions as I do cuddly puppies and humans. I must be crazy. :rolleyes: I go out of my way to not needlessly kill bugs, and even let unwanted spiders outside rather than killing them.

    Apparently your judgement of worthy life is whether or not it can 'produce' something worthwhile to society. Then how about mentally or physically handicapped people who can't function in society? Are they then worth less than those who can? If you know anything about ecology, then you would know that all animals are vital in one way or another to the earth's ecosystem which directly or indirectly impacts our survival. I would call that a pretty damn important 'job'.

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  • PJ_Saluki
    PJ_Saluki Posts: 1,006
    AllNiteThing wrote:
    Well that's the difference between you and me. I DO value the life of rats, snakes and scorpions as I do cuddly puppies and humans. I must be crazy. :rolleyes: I go out of my way to not needlessly kill bugs, and even let unwanted spiders outside rather than killing them.

    Apparently your judgement of worthy life is whether or not it can 'produce' something worthwhile to society. Then how about mentally or physically handicapped people who can't function in society? Are they then worth less than those who can? If you know anything about ecology, then you would know that all animals are vital in one way or another to the earth's ecosystem which directly or indirectly impacts our survival. I would call that a pretty damn important 'job'.

    You can hold onto your human superiority, center of the universe complex, but I prefer the non-neanderthal approach.

    Mentally and physically handicapped people are still people. I guess we'll just have to disagree about the relative worth of a dog's life when compared to a person's.
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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    PJ_Saluki wrote:
    Puh-leeeze. The only reason any gives a shit is because it was a cuddly, little puppy. If it would have been a rat or a snake or a scorpion, nobody would be crying. And yes, you're right, I DO value human life over that of an animal. I eat meat; I wear leather; I step on bugs; and, I'm totally OK with it. When a dog can create art, cure diseases, or do any of the hundreds, if not thousands, of things a person can do, then I'll go ahead and give them equal footing with humans. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't think cruelly offing animals for no good reason is cool. It's fucking disgusting. But, don't give me this "valuing all life" stuff. Human life is more valuable than the life of a dog, even if all life has something that makes it worth respecting.
    when dogs create wars and massacres and needless death, murder and rape each other... then i'll value them lesser than humans.
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  • Cree Nations
    Cree Nations Posts: 2,247
    dont know if that is real but...fuck. I agree with most of the comments. If its true: the guys a fuckstick and has likely seen a few of his buddies die...which doesnt make it right but gives you the mindset of the idea of "death"that those guys face either way and if it's fake: he is learning to deal with the death their dealing with over there through humour.
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  • PJ_Saluki
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    doin'the-evolution wrote:
    when dogs create wars and massacres and needless death, murder and rape each other... then i'll value them lesser than humans.

    All dogs create is dog shit. Let's not go giving them credit for not doing things they don't have the ability to do. Jeez, don't dogs kill each other and other animals sometimes? Didn't Grizzlies eat that silly sonofabitch and his girlfriend when they tried to live with them in the wild? And just so I don't have to get another lesson in Ecology 101 while being accused of being some neanderthal, I'm not calling for the mass extinction of animals, but I will say: People > animals. Your attempts at arguing otherwise seem laughable to me. If you guys honestly believe the lives of animals are equal to the lives of humans, well, nothing I write is going to change your minds. Maybe I just haven't evolved enough to find no distinction in value between people and animals. I guess I never should have had the nerve to point out that it was a puppy, not a human baby the soldier threw off a cliff, which, by the way I've said was fucking sickening. Have fun living in Bear City and not wearing leather or eating meat or taking any medicines for humans that have been tested on animals.
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  • comebackwoman
    comebackwoman Posts: 7,271
    It's really disturbing that anyone would take pleasure in torturing an animal. I don't get it. The lack of empathy is really disturbing. All this guy needs to do is start wetting the bed and setting fires and we'll have a serial killer on our hands.
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  • Danimal
    Danimal Posts: 2,000
    doin'the-evolution wrote:
    when dogs create wars and massacres and needless death, murder and rape each other... then i'll value them lesser than humans.

    The only thing they don't do is create war.
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  • chinobaeza
    chinobaeza Santiago Posts: 2,489
    Nothingman54 wrote:
    Life is life. Mine life is no more valuable than a dog. But besides that, what kind of fucked up person would do that? Thats a fucked up thing to do. I hope that guy is laying in Arlington Cemetery.
    what happened with all that "life is life" speech.....
    Can't understand that "eye for an eye" shit....punishment yes, but not wishising someone's death
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
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    It's a baby in a dog suit...
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  • Nothingman54
    Nothingman54 Posts: 2,251
    chinobaeza wrote:
    what happened with all that "life is life" speech.....
    Can't understand that "eye for an eye" shit....punishment yes, but not wishising someone's death

    I would much rather see a person die than a animal. Why? Because we see and hear about people dieing every day. Its nothing new to hear about people dieing. And people get what they deserve out of life, I dont feel sorry for them, but a animal dosent create war, shoot people, rape, and so on... and the animals you see will more than likley be killed with the hands of man, in some way.
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  • PJ_Saluki
    PJ_Saluki Posts: 1,006
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    It's a baby in a dog suit...

    Well, as long as it's a person... Great stuff, Roland. ; )
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    AllNiteThing wrote:
    Eye for an eye.

    What would your reaction be if it was a video of him holding a 2 year old girl by the neck and launching her over the side? Don't be so harsh on him? :rolleyes:
    Gimme a break with this "eye for an eye" crap.

    So let's say some guy rapes and kills my sister....you're basically saying I should get back at him by raping and killing HIS sister. That's beyond stupid. You can't fight against violence with more violence. It doesn't work.
  • comebackwoman
    comebackwoman Posts: 7,271
    I would be upset to see that happen to any animal. I'm not particularly fond of rodents or snakes, but I wouldn't want to see them tortured either. It's really hard to see that happen to a puppy because we've domesticated dogs...which means we've put them into a dependent state...which makes us more responsible for their care. Not everyone is an animal lover...i get that...but to take joy in hurting one is unfathomable.
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  • No Fear Of Falling
    No Fear Of Falling Posts: 419
    AllNiteThing wrote:
    Well that's the difference between you and me. I DO value the life of rats, snakes and scorpions as I do cuddly puppies and humans. I must be crazy. :rolleyes: I go out of my way to not needlessly kill bugs, and even let unwanted spiders outside rather than killing them.

    Apparently your judgement of worthy life is whether or not it can 'produce' something worthwhile to society. Then how about mentally or physically handicapped people who can't function in society? Are they then worth less than those who can? If you know anything about ecology, then you would know that all animals are vital in one way or another to the earth's ecosystem which directly or indirectly impacts our survival. I would call that a pretty damn important 'job'.

    You can hold onto your human superiority, center of the universe complex, but I prefer the non-neanderthal approach.

    I really don't know you at all, but this post alone really makes me have alot of respect for you.
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  • Julien
    Julien Posts: 2,457
    people are tortured every day (in Iraq, in Congo, etc.) and you are all so moved by a guy killing a dog... He didn't have to kill the dog and I think it's really disgusting but come on, there are more important things to care about.
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    AllNiteThing wrote:
    Well that's the difference between you and me. I DO value the life of rats, snakes and scorpions as I do cuddly puppies and humans. I must be crazy. :rolleyes: I go out of my way to not needlessly kill bugs, and even let unwanted spiders outside rather than killing them.

    Apparently your judgement of worthy life is whether or not it can 'produce' something worthwhile to society. Then how about mentally or physically handicapped people who can't function in society? Are they then worth less than those who can? If you know anything about ecology, then you would know that all animals are vital in one way or another to the earth's ecosystem which directly or indirectly impacts our survival. I would call that a pretty damn important 'job'.

    You can hold onto your human superiority, center of the universe complex, but I prefer the non-neanderthal approach.
    lol you value life, but you're in favor of "eye for an eye".

    Next time I see a little kid kill a bug, I'll be sure and let you know so you can come and throw him off a cliff.
  • chinobaeza
    chinobaeza Santiago Posts: 2,489
    Nothingman54 wrote:
    I would much rather see a person die than a animal. Why? Because we see and hear about people dieing every day.
    There's the problem.....not because it happens everyday it means that we must get used to it....
    I rather not see a person or animal die
  • chinobaeza
    chinobaeza Santiago Posts: 2,489
    Saturnal wrote:
    lol you value life, but you're in favor of "eye for an eye".

    Next time I see a little kid kill a bug, I'll be sure and let you know so you can come and throw him off a cliff.
    +1...can't understant people who say think that if someone kill a puppy he/she deserves to die....where's the value of life there?

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