Soldier Throws Dog Of Cliff

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  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    AllNiteThing wrote:
    That's where you and I (and many others) differ. 'It's just a dog' is like saying 'it's just a baby', 'it's just a Jew', 'it's just a woman', 'it's just a black' and on and on and on and on. Just because you are a member of one special or group shouldn't lead us to devalue that of others, assuming we are enlightened enough to realize that. Most animals (I assume), do not possess that sort of enlightened ability, but that doesn't in anyway mean that they are less of a creature than we are. Because we don't have internal sonar, can't produce honey, don't have wings to fly with, etc etc do not make us less than bats or bees or hummingbirds.
    hes right tho... it is just a dog... hate to sound egocentric, but what should be discussed is the human aspect of the clip... these soldiers are programmed to devalue life in order to cope with killing... this problem goes far beyond an individual action... this just so happened to be caught on film but how many other similar instances occur everyday?... there is a serious problem with the system and it is a serious problem when we extend the duties of our soldiers beyond what they enlisted for because we have no draft and we refuse to pull out of iraq... when i watch the video i see the death of a human life first and the death of a puppy second... im sad first and angry second...
    "Senza speme vivemo in disio"

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  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    1STmammal2wearPants wrote:
    first of all, can you speak for this guy? how do you know he is desensitized? maybe he is just a sick fuck who gets his jollies from killing things and made it the reason he went to war anyways. people that can kill animals is always the gateway to killing humans. and even if he is desensitized, you basically imply that all soldiers are animal-throwing monsters because of war, and this just simply isn't the case. A lot of the Marine community is in an outrage over this because it slaps a horrible label on all of them now. It was not only a horrific, inhumane thing to do, but an irresponsible one to Marines everywhere, and his own family, whose lives have now been threatened because of this callous prick.
    not speaking for him... just find it interesting that the critique of the video immediately jumps to such a narrow, individualistic, offensive approach when to me, given the context, i see so much more... dont mean to justify his action either... but you can no sooner assume hes a "sick fuck" than i can assume hes an emotionally fragile wreck dealing with some really heavy shit in a less than healthy way
    "Senza speme vivemo in disio"

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  • genie
    genie Posts: 2,222
    1STmammal2wearPants wrote:
    maybe he is just a sick fuck who gets his jollies from killing things and made it the reason he went to war anyways.

    i just thought i'd highlight this passage, because it's a good statement.
  • Swan
    Swan Posts: 350
    genie wrote:
    read my previous posts, or AllNiteThing's.

    anyway the answer is yes we are all creatures of nature


    You mean to tell me that if you’re at the edge of a cliff with some one whose holding a puppy in one hand and a baby in the other and tell you to chose one to save you would be torn between the two?
    I'm the only Hell Mama ever raised.
  • Somnium
    Somnium Posts: 85
    Swan wrote:
    You mean to tell me that if you’re at the edge of a cliff with some one whose holding a puppy in one hand and a baby in the other and tell you to chose one to save you would be torn between the two?

    What breed is the puppy?
    fuck the public
  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    somnium wrote:
    What breed is the puppy?
    more importantly, what race is the baby? ;)
    "Senza speme vivemo in disio"

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  • genie
    genie Posts: 2,222
    sgossard3 wrote:
    not speaking for him... just find it interesting that the critique of the video immediately jumps to such a narrow, individualistic, offensive approach when to me, given the context, i see so much more... dont mean to justify his action either... but you can no sooner assume hes a "sick fuck" than i can assume hes an emotionally fragile wreck dealing with some really heavy shit in a less than healthy way

    soldiers are not the only one's going through shit, there are a lot of people who got abused and had shit in their lives yet they don't go around taking pleasure in killing someone helpless.
  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    genie wrote:
    soldiers are not the only one's going through shit, there are a lot of people who got abused and had shit in their lives yet they don't go around taking pleasure in killing someone helpless.


    anything helpless actually. just throwing that in there.
  • genie
    genie Posts: 2,222
    Swan wrote:
    You mean to tell me that if you’re at the edge of a cliff with some one whose holding a puppy in one hand and a baby in the other and tell you to chose one to save you would be torn between the two?

    yes
  • genie
    genie Posts: 2,222
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    anything helpless actually. just throwing that in there.

    :) i like your addition
  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    genie wrote:
    soldiers are not the only one's going through shit, there are a lot of people who got abused and had shit in their lives yet they don't go around taking pleasure in killing someone helpless.
    yes... people sexually abused as children are statistically more likely to abuse as adults... not to say they all do... but i think in that scenario we would all show a bit more sympathy for the victim/abuser knowing the backstory... just saying its rash for people to say "this guy should be thrown off a cliff"... we all deal with stress in different ways... should this guy be thrown out of the marines and face other punishment? YES... thrown off a cliff or anything to such an extreme? NO
    "Senza speme vivemo in disio"

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  • Swan
    Swan Posts: 350
    genie wrote:
    yes

    What if you had to choose one otherwise the person would drop both, which would you choose?
    I'm the only Hell Mama ever raised.
  • The Champ
    The Champ Posts: 4,063
    genie wrote:
    yes

    I was going to participate and attempt to add something intelligent, but I'm glad I read the above prior to wasting more time with this dumb thread..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • rival.
    rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    genie wrote:
    yes

    wow.

    just wow.
  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    genie wrote:
    yes
    i understand that saying "no" mightve lost you some credibility as far as your argument is concerned... but honestly?... hard choice?... have some pride in your species... in an extreme like that no one will think less of you for choosing the baby... what if we glued some fur on the baby? would that make your decision easier?
    "Senza speme vivemo in disio"

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  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    sgossard3 wrote:
    i understand that saying "no" mightve lost you some credibility as far as your argument is concerned... but honestly?... hard choice?... have some pride in your species... in an extreme like that no one will think less of you for choosing the baby... what if we glued some fur on the baby? would that make your decision easier?



    I think the main problem IS having pride in your species. Depending on what you believe, it's all luck of the draw. And humans aren't the best species to put on display for an example in awesomeness.
  • genie
    genie Posts: 2,222
    The Champ wrote:
    I was going to participate and attempt to add something intelligent, but I'm glad I read the above prior to wasting more time with this dumb thread..

    intelligent? it's just opinions! you've got yours, i've got mine. neither choices are right/wrong. i just think my choice is kind to everyone.
  • Somnium
    Somnium Posts: 85
    The bottom line here kids is that this prick really fucked up and he'll get his dues.

    Would any of you like to argue either one of those points?
    fuck the public
  • genie
    genie Posts: 2,222
    Swan wrote:
    What if you had to choose one otherwise the person would drop both, which would you choose?

    i'm not even going to bother answering this one.
  • genie
    genie Posts: 2,222
    somnium wrote:
    The bottom line here kids is that this prick really fucked up and he'll get his dues.

    Would any of you like to argue either one of those points?

    hehe nope :) i agree

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